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Old 01-14-2010, 04:47 PM   #1
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My Zoe has been throwing up occasionally since Thanksgiving and I cant figure out why. She has always been the one to throw up if she doesn't eat enough (she can get picky once and a while and decide she doesn't like the brand of food anymore) but lately she has been eating fine and is still throwing up sometimes.
She has been rushed to the emergency room once already for throwing up blood and has been to the vet 2 times, one for throwing up blood and the other time for her nausea and throwing up. She hasn't thrown up blood since but she does get nauseous and throws up. She has had poop, urine and blood tests ran and everything was fine. At all three vet visits it was concluded that she probably just ate something that didn't agree with her stomach and had an upset stomach and that the blood was probably from inflammation from both throwing up and her upset stomach.
At first we thought she was getting the cats treats, food, or litter but she has absolutely no way to reach those anymore as we put up a baby gate.

Does any one else have a baby that just throws up or gets nauseous?
Also does anyone have any idea why she could be doing this or am I just being paranoid?
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I would say you have a reasonable concern. I do not have experience to share but I am sure someone who does will be here soon. Hope your little Zoe is better soon and that this is not serious.
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yorkies are known to have digestive issues sadly - sounds like inflammatory bowel disease mine has this here is a link as ibd does not show up on blood work and can trigger pancreatitis if in small intestines

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what are you feeding?
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:28 PM   #5
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Zoe is currently on Holistic Select, we had her on Natures Variety Instinct before this all started but changed it as we thought that the food was causing it but the diet change has made no difference.
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Thank you for the information in the IBD and for your concerns on Zoe, I really appreciate it. She had lost weight (almost a pound) during the period of about 2-4 months ago for no reason (she was checked for worms and nothing came up). She is slowly gaining the weight back but her ribs and hip bones are very easily felt. She was always pretty thin up until she hit 2 years old and then she filled out, gained some weight and was a solid 6 lbs (sometimes 6.2 lol).
We had moved about 4 months ago and there was a lot of people in and out of the house so we thought maybe stress but there was no signs of depression, or anything, her appetite was fine, her energy level normal but she still lost the weight.
We had questioned the vets on the weight loss and they said with her being normal (blood work, appetite and everything) that there was no real reason for concern right now with the weight. More so to be concerned with the throwing up, which after the tests were complete they said that it was just an upset stomach.
So right now we don't know what to think, I do trust our vet but I just can't believe that she gets a hold of stuff all of time that will make her nauseous like this, we keep all bad stuff out of reach, and food has never been a problem with her, no upset stomach, diarrhea, vomit, nothing.
She will go for a few days or a week and then she will vomit again or get really nauseous. She has actually gone through this today and last Tuesday.
Again I really appreciate everyone's comments.
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Zoe is currently on Holistic Select, we had her on Natures Variety Instinct before this all started but changed it as we thought that the food was causing it but the diet change has made no difference.
what is the protein count as those foods sound like they may have high protein count- yorkies should usually be at 22% in my opinion
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Thank you for the information in the IBD and for your concerns on Zoe, I really appreciate it. She had lost weight (almost a pound) during the period of about 2-4 months ago for no reason (she was checked for worms and nothing came up). She is slowly gaining the weight back but her ribs and hip bones are very easily felt. She was always pretty thin up until she hit 2 years old and then she filled out, gained some weight and was a solid 6 lbs (sometimes 6.2 lol).
We had moved about 4 months ago and there was a lot of people in and out of the house so we thought maybe stress but there was no signs of depression, or anything, her appetite was fine, her energy level normal but she still lost the weight.
We had questioned the vets on the weight loss and they said with her being normal (blood work, appetite and everything) that there was no real reason for concern right now with the weight. More so to be concerned with the throwing up, which after the tests were complete they said that it was just an upset stomach.
So right now we don't know what to think, I do trust our vet but I just can't believe that she gets a hold of stuff all of time that will make her nauseous like this, we keep all bad stuff out of reach, and food has never been a problem with her, no upset stomach, diarrhea, vomit, nothing.
She will go for a few days or a week and then she will vomit again or get really nauseous. She has actually gone through this today and last Tuesday.
Again I really appreciate everyone's comments.
this was happening to my ibd dog and it was from potato based diets so grain diets are better for ibd dogs in my opinion maybe try newmans own organic as my ibd dog will sometimes eat my maltese poop and she is on that diet and he has no issues now he gets a hold of anything else a vomit attack - I would give it a shot it is a good food but high in grains get the low fat one though

My boy is on purina ha a hydrolized soy diet so if the above does not work you may want to try that as it is not good to have that cycle going on

since you mentioned the move here is another thought that is similar to ibd and it is stress colitis check this out

Colitis in Dogs

this is hard to get rid of so if a stressful situation occurs then it spins them out of control

i STRONGLY recommend doing probiotics with a dog like yours as it will coat the digestive tract and it totally works i stopped them in my allergy dog and she was a mess afterwards and she had colitis and diarhea issues so the ones i use are below and i do 2 capsules every morning 20-30 before food it will stop the diarhea for sure and it is much safer than antibiotics it is like humans eating yogurt but it is non-dairy - she should lick right off plate but if she doesn't then mix a little organic pumpkin with it from whole foods it is canned

Dds-Plus Capsules by U.A.S.Laboratories - UA-1010 - at The Vitamin Shoppe
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this was happening to my dog a lot too; for 2 years; and was rushed to the ER 3 times for vomiting blood. it might be the food or the ingredients in the food. i was feeding her the honest kitchen and halo holistic before that; sometimes those food are not the best for a dog with digestive issue. anyway, no one can diagnose my dog until this thanksgiving; last visit to the ER the vet suspected IBD and my dog was put on purina pro plan lamb and rice. thank god she has been fine since then; she threw up only twice bile from empty stomach. i am not sure what the procedure of diagnosing IBD but Deb (dwerten) has more info about that. i think it might be the food. also my dog doesnt get any more treat or anything else but her food. (read my posts for more insight)
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what are the ingredients in the current food you are feeding?
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this was happening to my dog a lot too; for 2 years; and was rushed to the ER 3 times for vomiting blood. it might be the food or the ingredients in the food. i was feeding her the honest kitchen and halo holistic before that; sometimes those food are not the best for a dog with digestive issue. anyway, no one can diagnose my dog until this thanksgiving; last visit to the ER the vet suspected IBD and my dog was put on purina pro plan lamb and rice. thank god she has been fine since then; she threw up only twice bile from empty stomach. i am not sure what the procedure of diagnosing IBD but Deb (dwerten) has more info about that. i think it might be the food. also my dog doesnt get any more treat or anything else but her food. (read my posts for more insight)
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what are the ingredients in the current food you are feeding?
so happy your baby is doing well

the only way to diagnose is scoping intestines but i do not like that so i went with food trials and again rice over white potato as white potato is inflammatory and not good on ibd dogs as it inflames the intestines and backs them up
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Old 01-15-2010, 10:07 AM   #11
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Hi guys her is the info on the food Zoe is on
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein Not less than 28.00%
Crude Fat Not less than 18.00%
Crude Fiber Not more than 3.00%
Moisture Not more than 10.00%
Calcium Not less than 1.30%
Phosphorus Not less than 0.85%
Vitamin A Not less than 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E Not less than 165 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)* Not less than 30 mg/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* Not less than 3.00%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* Not less than 0.75%
Beta-Carotene* Not less than 5 mg/kg
L-Carnitine* Not less than 150 mg/kg
Glucosamine Hydrochloride* Not less than 340 mg/kg
Total Lactic Acid Micro-organisms* Not less than 100,000,000 CFU/lb
(Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium in equal amounts)
Total Bacillus Organisms* Not less than 7,000,000 CFU/lb
(Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis in equal amounts)
Protease* (from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)1 Not less than 280 HUT/lb
Cellulase* (from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)2 Not less than 100 Cellulase Units/lb
Alpha-Amylase*(from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)3 Not less than 5 Dextrin Units/lb

Ingredients
Anchovy & Sardine Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground White Rice, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Chicken Meal, Pork Meal, Oatmeal, Dried Beet Pulp, Flaxseed, Dried Egg Product, Carrots, Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Peas, Potassium Chloride, Organic Quinoa, Apples, Blueberries, Cranberries, Dried Kelp, Yucca Schidigera Extract, DL-Methionine, Vitamins [Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Biotin], Minerals (Polysaccharide Complexes of Zinc, Iron, Manganese and Copper, Cobalt Carbonate, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Rosemary Extract, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Inulin, L-Carnitine, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis, Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger Fermentation Products, Mixed Tocopherols (a natural preservative).
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This morning Zoe threw up at about 6 o'clock it was brown and had a specks of clotted blood in it again.
After reading all of your posts I honestly think it is a good chance that she has IBD. I will definitely get her some probiotics and see if I can get her on Newmans own Organics food.
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Poor baby! I will be praying for the sweet lil girl!
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Not knowing a full complete medical history on your beloved Zoe it sounds like your dog has acid reflux for short.

Gastroesophageal reflux is the process by which stomach acids backs up into the esphagus, resulting in chemical burns of the mucous lining. Try feeding your dog very small meals that are bland through out the day. High fat foods and protein can worsen acid reflux. Dietary fat and protein should be limited, as fat decreases the strength of the muscle between the stomach and esophagus, while protein stimulates the secretion of gastric acid. With the diet change you should also try medication as well. I think Prilosec that you can get over the counter might help. Check with your vet for proper dosage.

Red blood in the vomit indicates active bleeding somewhere between the mouth and the upper small bowel. (Blood from the nasopharynx and esophagus may be swallowed.) Common causes are stomach and duodenal ulcers, gastrointenal foreign bodies, and gastric tumors. Material that looks like coffee grounds is old, partially digested blood. This also indicates a bleeding point between the mouth and upper small bowel.

Has your vet performed a esophagoscopy to pinpoint the possible cause?
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Hi guys her is the info on the food Zoe is on
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein Not less than 28.00%
Crude Fat Not less than 18.00%
Crude Fiber Not more than 3.00%
Moisture Not more than 10.00%
Calcium Not less than 1.30%
Phosphorus Not less than 0.85%
Vitamin A Not less than 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E Not less than 165 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)* Not less than 30 mg/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* Not less than 3.00%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* Not less than 0.75%
Beta-Carotene* Not less than 5 mg/kg
L-Carnitine* Not less than 150 mg/kg
Glucosamine Hydrochloride* Not less than 340 mg/kg
Total Lactic Acid Micro-organisms* Not less than 100,000,000 CFU/lb
(Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium in equal amounts)
Total Bacillus Organisms* Not less than 7,000,000 CFU/lb
(Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis in equal amounts)
Protease* (from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)1 Not less than 280 HUT/lb
Cellulase* (from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)2 Not less than 100 Cellulase Units/lb
Alpha-Amylase*(from Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger)3 Not less than 5 Dextrin Units/lb

Ingredients
Anchovy & Sardine Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground White Rice, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Chicken Meal, Pork Meal, Oatmeal, Dried Beet Pulp, Flaxseed, Dried Egg Product, Carrots, Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Peas, Potassium Chloride, Organic Quinoa, Apples, Blueberries, Cranberries, Dried Kelp, Yucca Schidigera Extract, DL-Methionine, Vitamins [Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Biotin], Minerals (Polysaccharide Complexes of Zinc, Iron, Manganese and Copper, Cobalt Carbonate, Potassium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Rosemary Extract, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Inulin, L-Carnitine, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Enterococcus faecium, Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis, Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger Fermentation Products, Mixed Tocopherols (a natural preservative).
fat and protein a little high - poor baby is it the color of the food? I get concerned when there is blood though so keep an eye on her and feed smaller meals like 3-4 times a day rather than twice a day to make it easier to digest - has she been on any nsaids like metacam, deramaxx, rimadyl recently?
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