Need HELP! My Yorkie Babies are dying!

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

You have to be kidding There is NO EXCUSE to breed when you do not have the knowledge and resources to do so. Seriously, you must be kidding..........tell me that you are not standing up for her need to breed Having a litter of puppies takes what about 50 days give or take a few.........are you trying to say that she had THAT many life altering events to not be able to adequately provide for her puppies These types of actions MAKE ME SICK! Then to have others come along and coddle someone who has acted irresponsibly is without words Maybe she should have held on to the profit from the first puppies that she sold for $700 each to pay for this current "situation".

Here is a little "history" of her 7 posts. First this poor thing is 9 months old and she is looking for a first heat to breed. At 10 months she is pregnant with her first litter. She has 1 puppy and it is put up for sale here for $700 http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...orkie-pup.html Now back to breeding her again............

Here look there is her email and phone number maybe we should give her a call and ask her how everything is going since she has not been back.

I think this and any posts like this are uncalled for.
Doesn't matter the what if's or should of done after the fact.
What is important is to help when help is NEEDED.
It is after all what this board is suppose to be about.. RIGHT?
I find it funny that most are wanting to know what's going on
but also want to slam the person at the same time.
I can't say I blame her for not telling you.
She has told the ones who were truly interested in help her.
And Tammy to get this thread locked just contact ADMIN.

[Pup-e-Love]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

And Tammy to get this thread locked just contact ADMIN.

I was just going to suggest that.

[keylargolady100]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

I think this and any posts like this are uncalled for.
Doesn't matter the what if's or should of done after the fact.
What is important is to help when help is NEEDED.
It is after all what this board is suppose to be about.. RIGHT?
I find it funny that most are wanting to know what's going on
but also want to slam the person at the same time.
I can't say I blame her for not telling you.
She has told the ones who were truly interested in help her.
And Tammy to get this thread locked just contact ADMIN.

I totally agree with this. I have heard over and over that we care and love yorkshire terriers on this web site. Does that mean we love them more than we love our fellow human being???
Things have been said here that are just plain mean and cruel. Maybe there are some things that could have been changed, but to attach a person as many here have done is just uncalled for. And everyone who made an attack, should be ashamed of theirselves.
Is this lady running a puppy mill? no. Did she get caught up in having her little girl be a mommie? Probably so. BUT To attach and degrade her as several people did is totally wrong.
And for that reason, which has happened in quite a few posts this summer, I will be going to Admin and requesting that I be allowed to remove myself from Yorkietalk, as much as it saddens me. I really love this site, but will not let myself be associatiated with such judgemental people.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I'm afraid in this instance I'm assuming the worst as well. The pups were dying and she still had 4 hours before the vet appt. I know from experience how fast these little ones can go down when they get dehydrated, four hours is just too long. If it was good news I would guess we would have gotten the all clear by the next day. Such a sad situation but hopefully a lesson learned. Breeding is expensive, hard work, and emotionally draining. You really have to know what you're getting into before you start. Maybe this will help someone to learn. It's all very sad!

Those were my thoughts. If they had survived she would have been happy to post that, but since they didn't post, it is apparent that the news was not good.

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by keylargolady100

I totally agree with this. I have heard over and over that we care and love yorkshire terriers on this web site. Does that mean we love them more than we love our fellow human being???
Things have been said here that are just plain mean and cruel. Maybe there are some things that could have been changed, but to attach a person as many here have done is just uncalled for. And everyone who made an attack, should be ashamed of theirselves.
Is this lady running a puppy mill? no. Did she get caught up in having her little girl be a mommie? Probably so. BUT To attach and degrade her as several people did is totally wrong.
And for that reason, which has happened in quite a few posts this summer, I will be going to Admin and requesting that I be allowed to remove myself from Yorkietalk, as much as it saddens me. I really love this site, but will not let myself be associatiated with such judgemental people.

I have learned so much from this site and made great friends. Sorry to see you go.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2

I think this and any posts like this are uncalled for.
Doesn't matter the what if's or should of done after the fact.
What is important is to help when help is NEEDED.
It is after all what this board is suppose to be about.. RIGHT?
I find it funny that most are wanting to know what's going on
but also want to slam the person at the same time.
I can't say I blame her for not telling you.
She has told the ones who were truly interested in help her.
And Tammy to get this thread locked just contact ADMIN.

The TRUTH is the TRUTH and sometimes the truth hurts

[keylargolady100]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

The TRUTH is the TRUTH and sometimes the truth hurts

Yes truth hurts, but think about this, What if it was one of you who was here for something and had other people attack and condem you in public? And I am sure there will be the reply now that says well that will never happen will it.
I think that is what is so upsetting, is that these were all done in public. Not to help or teach anything, but to just be nasty and mean. I have seen this type of attitude in different threads all summer, it needs to stop. You can get your point across with out hurting people so badly. And if you need to send a pm do it.

[MJJ56]

Originally Posted by keylargolady100

Yes truth hurts, but think about this, What if it was one of you who was here for something and had other people attack and condem you in public? And I am sure there will be the reply now that says well that will never happen will it.
I think that is what is so upsetting, is that these were all done in public. Not to help or teach anything, but to just be nasty and mean. I have seen this type of attitude in different threads all summer, it needs to stop. You can get your point across with out hurting people so badly. And if you need to send a pm do it.

[bailie]

the girl asked for help, and got riddiculed, sad cause she cud have given advice to newbies thinking off the same thing. there is worse people in this life need ur anger, and she was not one off them, it makes me reluctant to ask anything on here in future

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by SassyZena

Thanks to all for caring! Mom is ok and I have an appointment at 4 for the the pups. He said he was going to do a fecal examine and that it sounds like one or the other. I know this is where everyone is going to come down on me but I just spent $320 on my Sassy Saturday and cant afford too much more. So before anyone can say it I know I shouldnt be breeding and thats why I'm having her spayed. She and her puppies did so good her last breeding. But I'm not going to take any more chances loosing my baby or hers!

This quote is from post #17. It seems like the OP knew that she shouldn't be breeding and was in over her head. All the criticism that followed seems (to me) to be un-necessary, so my question would be, why do it? She needed advice, not bashing and, yes, it was bashing as she had already admitted that she shouldn't be breeding.

What bothers me from her post is that the vet set an appointment for 4 o'clock. How could any vet not tell her to come right on in if the pups were dying? That is an emergency if I ever heard of one. This vet sounds like a jackass and there are far too many of them out there. It's not easy to find a truly qualified, responsive vet which is exactly what is needed when you have a serious situation.

I can only hope there was a good outcome and some of the pups made it. This is all so sad.

[VetNutJim]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Once again a thread has gone astray. This thread was started because
someone was loosing innocent puppies and was in a panic.
It was about saving puppies not about weather or not she should have
bred her female. Live's were at stake and this woman needed help
from people who know how to help her. What is wrong with all of you?
This thread was about saving puppies from dying! I don't blame her
for not coming back. Who are all of you to beat someone up like this.
Times are hard all over the country but you continue to breed your
females knowing homes have to be found. There are so many pups
in rescues why not stop breeding for a year and allow those pups to get
into a loving home? This subject can go round and round forever because
everyone has their own points of view. It's not my business what you
do or how you do it so stop beating up on those who do something
you wouldn't. Next time help save innocent lives then go for the
jugular! I don't agree with what she did with her female but that does
not mean those puppies did not have the right to live!

100% AGREE!!!

I'm shocked and surprised by some of the post here.
YT seemed to be the ONE place on the internet where people showed their love for these babies .... and each other.
I'm saddened by this persons situation and the babies dying and then.... some of the post here.

Note that I'm not disagreeing with anyone on here, everyone has a right to their feelings and opinions.
Maybe some of the harshness comes from the frustration of not really being able to help these little sick angels.

I never thought I'd see such as this here, I'm so sad for us all..
Can't we just all get along? Please?

I'm praying for the Yorkie babies and mama Yorkie, God please save these little precious ones.

[AddieLove]

I must be misunderstanding something ...
I've read every single post made here, and the ones that were referenced where the OP started other threads.
For the first few pages, everyone only gave very helpful advice. When the OP did not update (which is actually a pattern in a few of her other posts), people became frustrated.
Sure emotions ran high, but would members here rather have others just say, "Whoops! That sucks. I hope you learned your lesson!"?
It's not like the OP was making a quilt and screwed up the pattern. She irresponsibly bred pups that led to death. How is she different from a BYB (and I'm not actually being snarky here, I am actually asking a genuine question)?

There's no need to attack others' opinions and advice (from both sides, really). The OP put herself out there, asked a question and got many very honest answers. To be frank, if she can't handle a little fire from an ON-LINE forum, then what on Earth made her think she could breed puppies? She should feel bad. She should feel guilty.

It's frustrating because I waited several years before getting Addie, and I got her as a rehome. But I made darn sure I could afford her apartment cost, spay and all other possible medical bills before I took her as mine. Nothing would make me feel worse than taking in a cute little pup knowing I couldn't afford her if she was hurt and then she got hurt and died. That would be completely on me. It would be my fault that pup died, just like this situation is completely on the shoulders of the OP.

And really, who types on the computer to ask for advice when one of your pups is moaning in pain? I love this forum, and I trust the advice I get, but if I have a major problem, I call the ER vet first. Later when the problem is resolving I can update everyone on YT, so I can get additional advice and maybe give someone else information on how to act in a similar situation.

We should reward responsibility and scold irresponsibility. She's not a five-year-old who accidentally spilt milk on the carpet. She is capable of making logical decisions and failed this time. It would have been great if the OP hadn't had to learn this lesson with the death of innocent creatures, but that's unfortunately not how it happened.

As a non-breeder and with several friends heavily involved in rescues, it saddens me greatly to hear this situation. And I just don't think I will ever understand those who think breeding is a great way to make some cash.

I really don't think anyone who commented to the OP didn't have the pups' best interests at heart first. That's why the debate got heated. That's why everyone is so emotional, and I really can't blame them.

I can just hope the OP has her baby spayed (assuming she's still alive), and that others who think breeding is a get-rich-quick scheme stumble across this thread and realise just what it could cost.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by AddieLove

I must be misunderstanding something ...
I've read every single post made here, and the ones that were referenced where the OP started other threads.
For the first few pages, everyone only gave very helpful advice. When the OP did not update (which is actually a pattern in a few of her other posts), people became frustrated.
Sure emotions ran high, but would members here rather have others just say, "Whoops! That sucks. I hope you learned your lesson!"?
It's not like the OP was making a quilt and screwed up the pattern. She irresponsibly bred pups that led to death. How is she different from a BYB (and I'm not actually being snarky here, I am actually asking a genuine question)?

There's no need to attack others' opinions and advice (from both sides, really). The OP put herself out there, asked a question and got many very honest answers. To be frank, if she can't handle a little fire from an ON-LINE forum, then what on Earth made her think she could breed puppies? She should feel bad. She should feel guilty.

It's frustrating because I waited several years before getting Addie, and I got her as a rehome. But I made darn sure I could afford her apartment cost, spay and all other possible medical bills before I took her as mine. Nothing would make me feel worse than taking in a cute little pup knowing I couldn't afford her if she was hurt and then she got hurt and died. That would be completely on me. It would be my fault that pup died, just like this situation is completely on the shoulders of the OP.

And really, who types on the computer to ask for advice when one of your pups is moaning in pain? I love this forum, and I trust the advice I get, but if I have a major problem, I call the ER vet first. Later when the problem is resolving I can update everyone on YT, so I can get additional advice and maybe give someone else information on how to act in a similar situation.

We should reward responsibility and scold irresponsibility. She's not a five-year-old who accidentally spilt milk on the carpet. She is capable of making logical decisions and failed this time. It would have been great if the OP hadn't had to learn this lesson with the death of innocent creatures, but that's unfortunately not how it happened.

As a non-breeder and with several friends heavily involved in rescues, it saddens me greatly to hear this situation. And I just don't think I will ever understand those who think breeding is a great way to make some cash.

I really don't think anyone who commented to the OP didn't have the pups' best interests at heart first. That's why the debate got heated. That's why everyone is so emotional, and I really can't blame them.

I can just hope the OP has her baby spayed (assuming she's still alive), and that others who think breeding is a get-rich-quick scheme stumble across this thread and realise just what it could cost.

Very well thought out and written post.

Addie is lucky to have a responsible, loving owner/parent who thought about what she was getting into when she adopted her!

[rwprivette]

Originally Posted by AddieLove

I must be misunderstanding something ...
I've read every single post made here, and the ones that were referenced where the OP started other threads.
For the first few pages, everyone only gave very helpful advice. When the OP did not update (which is actually a pattern in a few of her other posts), people became frustrated.
Sure emotions ran high, but would members here rather have others just say, "Whoops! That sucks. I hope you learned your lesson!"?
It's not like the OP was making a quilt and screwed up the pattern. She irresponsibly bred pups that led to death. How is she different from a BYB (and I'm not actually being snarky here, I am actually asking a genuine question)?

There's no need to attack others' opinions and advice (from both sides, really). The OP put herself out there, asked a question and got many very honest answers. To be frank, if she can't handle a little fire from an ON-LINE forum, then what on Earth made her think she could breed puppies? She should feel bad. She should feel guilty.

It's frustrating because I waited several years before getting Addie, and I got her as a rehome. But I made darn sure I could afford her apartment cost, spay and all other possible medical bills before I took her as mine. Nothing would make me feel worse than taking in a cute little pup knowing I couldn't afford her if she was hurt and then she got hurt and died. That would be completely on me. It would be my fault that pup died, just like this situation is completely on the shoulders of the OP.

And really, who types on the computer to ask for advice when one of your pups is moaning in pain? I love this forum, and I trust the advice I get, but if I have a major problem, I call the ER vet first. Later when the problem is resolving I can update everyone on YT, so I can get additional advice and maybe give someone else information on how to act in a similar situation.

We should reward responsibility and scold irresponsibility. She's not a five-year-old who accidentally spilt milk on the carpet. She is capable of making logical decisions and failed this time. It would have been great if the OP hadn't had to learn this lesson with the death of innocent creatures, but that's unfortunately not how it happened.

As a non-breeder and with several friends heavily involved in rescues, it saddens me greatly to hear this situation. And I just don't think I will ever understand those who think breeding is a great way to make some cash.

I really don't think anyone who commented to the OP didn't have the pups' best interests at heart first. That's why the debate got heated. That's why everyone is so emotional, and I really can't blame them.

I can just hope the OP has her baby spayed (assuming she's still alive), and that others who think breeding is a get-rich-quick scheme stumble across this thread and realise just what it could cost.

I think this was well written as well (: Good job Addie!!!

[AddieLove]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Very well thought out and written post.

Addie is lucky to have a responsible, loving owner/parent who thought about what she was getting into when she adopted her!

Thank you so much for saying that! I've made mistakes as a dog owner/parent in the past, and I do have regrets. But I've really tried very hard with Addie to be the best for her and have done so much research to make sure she has all the best. Much of that is thanks to this forum and its wonderful members.

And I must say I'm really the lucky one to have Addie, and I'm so very thankful she's in my life.

Originally Posted by rwprivette

I think this was well written as well (: Good job Addie!!!

Thank you! (By the way, on a completely other note, any news on little Tyler?)