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dwerten · 09-02-2009, 06:55 AM

what nsaid did they use metacam, rimadyl? as those can cause a prob with the kidneys and may be why the concern? just trying to understand more of what is happening but nsaids can affect the liver and kidneys so you have to be really careful with those drugs and i avoid them after my dog was so sick on metacam due to her being on temarilp and vet gave on empty stomach so both were a huge no no and i knew it and asked for tramadol when she hurt her leg but the vet would not listen to me and pressured me into metacam and it was a 2 month nightmare and actually still dealing with it as she has bouts of colitis from time to time still and it has been since february so needless to say we will not be going back to him

sweetsophia · 09-02-2009, 07:12 AM

Just wondering if this baby has been tested for Coccidia also? Sometimes Giardia and Coccidia can cause similar symptoms and are not properly treated. Has she been on any Albon at all? Just a thought. Hoping she turns the corner soon and is on the mend for you. I know it can be very frustrating. Best of luck to her and you on a quick recovery.

bonitalou · 09-02-2009, 07:05 PM

No she was not tested for that. All the report says is: Flotation is checked and it says: Negative for parasites; Bacterial overgrowth present.

RX: Flagyl 25mg. Recheck Liver/Kidney panel in 2 weeks.

bonitalou · 09-02-2009, 07:11 PM

Started throwing up again. I fed her first before giving her the Flagyl, but she still threw up. Now I don't know if she threw that up or her food. Guess I'll see tomorrow by looking at the poo, because without the Flagyl she goes liquid.

Collected another urine sample last nite as the 1st one the clinic courier didn't pick it up and it was then contaminated from sitting out doors all night/morning. NICE......ticks me off. Took over 3 hrs to collect it. Had to lock her in the kennel with just a litter box. Did NOT want a catheter put in so had to do it my way.

We're both exhausted. She still gets me up a couple times during the nite. I get up for work at 5:50 and that's when I'm getting back to bed. I feel so bad for her........I hope in ten days this will all be over.

Thanks for all your input.

Frustrated in Wisconsin......

dwerten · 09-02-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bonitalou

Started throwing up again. I fed her first before giving her the Flagyl, but she still threw up. Now I don't know if she threw that up or her food. Guess I'll see tomorrow by looking at the poo, because without the Flagyl she goes liquid.

Collected another urine sample last nite as the 1st one the clinic courier didn't pick it up and it was then contaminated from sitting out doors all night/morning. NICE......ticks me off. Took over 3 hrs to collect it. Had to lock her in the kennel with just a litter box. Did NOT want a catheter put in so had to do it my way.

We're both exhausted. She still gets me up a couple times during the nite. I get up for work at 5:50 and that's when I'm getting back to bed. I feel so bad for her........I hope in ten days this will all be over.

Thanks for all your input.

Frustrated in Wisconsin......

does she go on wee wee pads as i put them upside down first thing in am as that is the best sample and then i get an eye dropper from pharmacy and pill bottle for free i suction it up and take right to vet -- best to have urine in am as it has sat in bladder all night and that way you get a really good sample

bonitalou · 09-03-2009, 06:24 PM

I got the sample as I just locked her in the kennel with only the litter box. That's a good idea though, I could have tried that, but the litter box worked slick too, then I just poured it in the specimen bottle.

Vet's office called tonite (left message as I was not home), got results but will discuss tomorrow. Great.......I would think if it was negative, she just would have left that message on my ans. machine.

Guess I'll know more tomorrow.

dwerten · 09-03-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonitalou

I got the sample as I just locked her in the kennel with only the litter box. That's a good idea though, I could have tried that, but the litter box worked slick too, then I just poured it in the specimen bottle.

Vet's office called tonite (left message as I was not home), got results but will discuss tomorrow. Great.......I would think if it was negative, she just would have left that message on my ans. machine.

Guess I'll know more tomorrow.

ok keep us posted and hopefully it is not bid deal

bonitalou · 09-03-2009, 06:33 PM

Thanks! I'll touch base tomorrow evening.

ally173 · 09-04-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bonitalou

I don't think her stool can become much softer, It's like a running faucet. I stopped at the vet tonite and she's back on Flagyl for 10 days. I also have her now on Liver food (Purina NF). IN two weeks he will test her kidneys again to see if they normalized. No more vomiting so that's good.

Took in a stool sample (high bacteria); they are telling me Infamed intestines and that's why the bloody stool. Also took a urine sample in, will know about that in 24 hrs.

I pray she will get back to her normal healthy self.

Thank you for our input.

i am not sure if purina is the best food right now; what about a bland diet until she gets better; my dog was recently in the hospital and was feeding her boilded chicken and rice with some gerber baby food (banana; chicken and apple dinner); adding some digestive enzymes and i used the homeopet upset stomach drops; and she hasn't thrown up since then. now she' almost transitioned completely to the honest good kitchen food; but i still feed her gerber baby food whenever she's getting picky or doesnt want to eat her food. good luck

bonitalou · 09-04-2009, 02:17 PM

The vet just feels the NF is best because of the kidney issues. BUN at 38.....

I'm not feeling to confident about much of anything these days.

bonitalou · 09-04-2009, 02:24 PM

Ok, here goes. No urinary trac infection but............red and white cells present in urine. The report says the TURB is 1+; PH is 7.0; muscus=trace. everything else is normal, none seen or negative.

The bottom of the report says: Triple phosphate crystals present; calcium oxalate crystals present.

They took her off of Flagyl; I am to start the NEW med in two days (Batryl).

I get more frustrated each day.

ally173 · 09-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonitalou

Ok, here goes. No urinary trac infection but............red and white cells present in urine. The report says the TURB is 1+; PH is 7.0; muscus=trace. everything else is normal, none seen or negative.

The bottom of the report says: Triple phosphate crystals present; calcium oxalate crystals present.

They took her off of Flagyl; I am to start the NEW med in two days (Batryl).

I get more frustrated each day.

i know it's fraustrating and time consuming; but maybe you can do some research on the batryl and the side effects; and other alternative medication or helpers; such as Epakitin used for kidney disease

Amazon.com: Epakitin for Dogs and Cats, 50 gm:... also you might have to change the diet to something low in protein; see the honest kitchen preference formula and add white fish to it; and some digestive enzymes to aid digestion and add some probiotic;
all these things can improve health and might help your dog; good luck

bonitalou · 09-04-2009, 06:22 PM

Thank you. I will definitely research that, plus a few other things. I'm not convinced they are prescribing the correct things.

dwerten · 09-05-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonitalou

Ok, here goes. No urinary trac infection but............red and white cells present in urine. The report says the TURB is 1+; PH is 7.0; muscus=trace. everything else is normal, none seen or negative.

The bottom of the report says: Triple phosphate crystals present; calcium oxalate crystals present.

They took her off of Flagyl; I am to start the NEW med in two days (Batryl).

I get more frustrated each day.

crystals in urine -- has your dog ever been bile acid tested as all yorkies should have this done and crystals in urine can be a sign of liver issues

dwerten · 09-05-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally173

i know it's fraustrating and time consuming; but maybe you can do some research on the batryl and the side effects; and other alternative medication or helpers; such as Epakitin used for kidney disease

Amazon.com: Epakitin for Dogs and Cats, 50 gm:... also you might have to change the diet to something low in protein; see the honest kitchen preference formula and add white fish to it; and some digestive enzymes to aid digestion and add some probiotic;
all these things can improve health and might help your dog; good luck

i agree the preference is a great diet and add cod you can get the cod at sam's club in bulk

09-02-2009, 07:05 PM	#48
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	fecal No she was not tested for that. All the report says is: Flotation is checked and it says: Negative for parasites; Bacterial overgrowth present. RX: Flagyl 25mg. Recheck Liver/Kidney panel in 2 weeks.

09-02-2009, 06:55 AM	#46
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	what nsaid did they use metacam, rimadyl? as those can cause a prob with the kidneys and may be why the concern? just trying to understand more of what is happening but nsaids can affect the liver and kidneys so you have to be really careful with those drugs and i avoid them after my dog was so sick on metacam due to her being on temarilp and vet gave on empty stomach so both were a huge no no and i knew it and asked for tramadol when she hurt her leg but the vet would not listen to me and pressured me into metacam and it was a 2 month nightmare and actually still dealing with it as she has bouts of colitis from time to time still and it has been since february so needless to say we will not be going back to him

09-02-2009, 07:12 AM	#47
sweetsophia Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 646	Just wondering if this baby has been tested for Coccidia also? Sometimes Giardia and Coccidia can cause similar symptoms and are not properly treated. Has she been on any Albon at all? Just a thought. Hoping she turns the corner soon and is on the mend for you. I know it can be very frustrating. Best of luck to her and you on a quick recovery.

09-02-2009, 07:11 PM	#49
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	Started throwing up again. I fed her first before giving her the Flagyl, but she still threw up. Now I don't know if she threw that up or her food. Guess I'll see tomorrow by looking at the poo, because without the Flagyl she goes liquid. Collected another urine sample last nite as the 1st one the clinic courier didn't pick it up and it was then contaminated from sitting out doors all night/morning. NICE......ticks me off. Took over 3 hrs to collect it. Had to lock her in the kennel with just a litter box. Did NOT want a catheter put in so had to do it my way. We're both exhausted. She still gets me up a couple times during the nite. I get up for work at 5:50 and that's when I'm getting back to bed. I feel so bad for her........I hope in ten days this will all be over. Thanks for all your input. Frustrated in Wisconsin......

09-03-2009, 06:24 PM	#51
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	I got the sample as I just locked her in the kennel with only the litter box. That's a good idea though, I could have tried that, but the litter box worked slick too, then I just poured it in the specimen bottle. Vet's office called tonite (left message as I was not home), got results but will discuss tomorrow. Great.......I would think if it was negative, she just would have left that message on my ans. machine. Guess I'll know more tomorrow.

09-03-2009, 06:33 PM	#53
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	Thanks! I'll touch base tomorrow evening.

09-04-2009, 02:17 PM	#55
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	The vet just feels the NF is best because of the kidney issues. BUN at 38..... I'm not feeling to confident about much of anything these days.

09-04-2009, 02:24 PM	#56
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	Ok, here goes. No urinary trac infection but............red and white cells present in urine. The report says the TURB is 1+; PH is 7.0; muscus=trace. everything else is normal, none seen or negative. The bottom of the report says: Triple phosphate crystals present; calcium oxalate crystals present. They took her off of Flagyl; I am to start the NEW med in two days (Batryl). I get more frustrated each day.

09-04-2009, 06:22 PM	#58
bonitalou Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wausau, WI Posts: 419	Thank you. I will definitely research that, plus a few other things. I'm not convinced they are prescribing the correct things.