Bella has a Collapsed Trachea...does your Yorkie?

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by dwerten

have you had her thyroid panel done - the 6 panel through michigan state or dr dodds as hypothyroid runs in this breed as well - only feed 1/2 of what bag says as our vet said most pet food mfg want to sell more food so they up it and why so many dogs are obese - cut back food 25% at a time and add green beans food processed as a filler - carrots are too high in sugar which converts to fat

The last time Bella had a blood panel it was prior to being spayed and I'm sure it did not include a Thyroid Panel...so, no she has never had one. Do you think I should give her diet at least a week before running this panel or just do it as a base line?

Bella might have 1/2 of a tiny baby carrot (the kind that are peeled in those snack size bags)...maybe every other day. I'm not a really big treater...so, do you think even that little is too much sugar?

Just for the record...I may not be a big treater BUT, my girlies have a Toy Box (Basket) to die for!!! lol!

As for the dog food...that's what Bella's Vet spent a few minutes enlightening me on yesterday.

[jenn1381]

I'm so sorry to hear about Bella.. I hope she can cut that weight and get things under control!

I have to say a big thanks for the links to the video's. Oliver has been reverse sneezing lately and I was starting to worry that it was CT. But, after watching the video, it is definitely reverse sneezing and I feel better! Whew!

Keep us posted on how Bella is doing!

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by jenn1381

I'm so sorry to hear about Bella.. I hope she can cut that weight and get things under control!

I have to say a big thanks for the links to the video's. Oliver has been reverse sneezing lately and I was starting to worry that it was CT. But, after watching the video, it is definitely reverse sneezing and I feel better! Whew!

Keep us posted on how Bella is doing!

Thank you for your well wishes and we're definitely sticking to her new "Jenny Craig" diet...(just kidding) but, I am determined to help her get down to her goal weight or pretty darn close to it!

You know...that is how this all started with Bella. It was what I thought was for sure just a "reverse sneeze" and probably was back in the beginning.

However, it did progress into where we are today with a "Collapsed Trachea".

So, I almost wonder if it would be wise to ask for an x-ray if your dog is already "reverse sneezing" just to rule out CT.

Anyone have any thoughts on that? Would it make a difference?

[miabellaamoure]

Well, I got to speak with Connie today about our babies with CT and I so appreciated the time she took to share...so, Thank you Connie!

As promised...here are pic's of Bella & the girls. Bella is my Chubbah-girl with the floppy ears. The last pic includes my last little YTNR-Rescue Yorkie-boy, Sammie (aka Rascal) who went to live with his forever Momma a couple weeks ago!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Thank you for your well wishes and we're definitely sticking to her new "Jenny Craig" diet...(just kidding) but, I am determined to help her get down to her goal weight or pretty darn close to it!

You know...that is how this all started with Bella. It was what I thought was for sure just a "reverse sneeze" and probably was back in the beginning.

However, it did progress into where we are today with a "Collapsed Trachea".

So, I almost wonder if it would be wise to ask for an x-ray if your dog is already "reverse sneezing" just to rule out CT.

Anyone have any thoughts on that? Would it make a difference?

my dd was reverse sneezing alot when she was a puppy but is due to allergies and when she was spay i had her trachea xrayed as was nervous so not a bad idea if they are under for spay, neuter or dental if u suspect it

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

The last time Bella had a blood panel it was prior to being spayed and I'm sure it did not include a Thyroid Panel...so, no she has never had one. Do you think I should give her diet at least a week before running this panel or just do it as a base line?

Bella might have 1/2 of a tiny baby carrot (the kind that are peeled in those snack size bags)...maybe every other day. I'm not a really big treater...so, do you think even that little is too much sugar?

Just for the record...I may not be a big treater BUT, my girlies have a Toy Box (Basket) to die for!!! lol!

As for the dog food...that's what Bella's Vet spent a few minutes enlightening me on yesterday.

no i do not think that little of carrot would be bad

no need to hurry for blood panel but next time blood is done do the 6 panel thyroid and tell vet to do the michigan panel so they send to michigan as they and dr dodds are most accurate

[jenn1381]

If Oliver is ever under for whatever reason I will get them to xray and check. He's already been fixed before I adopted him and when he was rescued they did a FULL work up including xrays and only noted a mild luxating patella in one leg, so I think he's likely ok. But, if he's ever under anyways it certainly wouldn't hurt just to be sure!

Ollie is on a diet right now too - certainly not as stringent as he is not overweight, but he has gained since I've had him and with that LP that is not a good thing. His favorite new snack is cauliflower! He go NUTS for the stuff!!!!

[mscat]

If Bella can put on the weight easily, I would have the vet check her thyroid levels. She might be hypothyroid, which would explain the weight gain, and the trouble losing it. If she has this, it needs to be treated as well. She would be feeling a lot better after treatmetn, if this is what causing the extra weight . + with the CT, that could be back under control easier .

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by dwerten

no i do not think that little of carrot would be bad

no need to hurry for blood panel but next time blood is done do the 6 panel thyroid and tell vet to do the michigan panel so they send to michigan as they and dr dodds are most accurate

Thanks...will do!

Bella update:

She's doing so good on her diet---not begging for extra meals either...so, we're just waiting for a call any day now from "Jenny Craig" to try out for their next spokes-yorkie!

I'm not sure how long it takes for her Temeril-P to kick in but, during the day it seems to be a little bit better but, at night time or in the wee hours of the morning is when it gets a bit rough.

Ohhh, and also something new that just started...does anyone know why her nose is getting all dried out and crusty? I noticed she licks it a lot as if to moisten it but...it's not working. Is there anything I can put on it but, that's safe for her in case she licks it?

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Thanks...will do!

Bella update:

She's doing so good on her diet---not begging for extra meals either...so, we're just waiting for a call any day now from "Jenny Craig" to try out for their next spokes-yorkie!

I'm not sure how long it takes for her Temeril-P to kick in but, during the day it seems to be a little bit better but, at night time or in the wee hours of the morning is when it gets a bit rough.

Ohhh, and also something new that just started...does anyone know why her nose is getting all dried out and crusty? I noticed she licks it a lot as if to moisten it but...it's not working. Is there anything I can put on it but, that's safe for her in case she licks it?

make sure when doing temarilp it is done every other day NOT EVERY DAY as this is real important when using this drug as my dd is on temaril p 1/2 tablet every other day for allergies

raw coconut oil is an antibacterial and antifungal and very safe for them to lick so i would recommend that as it has worked miracles on my yorkies hot spots

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by dwerten

make sure when doing temarilp it is done every other day NOT EVERY DAY as this is real important when using this drug as my dd is on temaril p 1/2 tablet every other day for allergies

raw coconut oil is an antibacterial and antifungal and very safe for them to lick so i would recommend that as it has worked miracles on my yorkies hot spots

Bella's Vet prescribed Temaril-P (1 tab p.o. q 12h.) or 1 tab twice a day and I just looked up the recommended "initial" dosage by dog's weight is : 1 tab twice daily for 11-20 lbs. After 4 days, reduce dosage to 1/2 of the initial dose or to an amount just sufficient to maintain remission of symptoms. Tomorrow will be the 4th day of taking Temaril-P so, I think I need to call the Vet in the morning to check on the dosage...oops, it already is morning!

I'll give the coconut oil a try...thanks!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Bella's Vet prescribed Temaril-P (1 tab p.o. q 12h.) or 1 tab twice a day and I just looked up the recommended "initial" dosage by dog's weight is : 1 tab twice daily for 11-20 lbs. After 4 days, reduce dosage to 1/2 of the initial dose or to an amount just sufficient to maintain remission of symptoms. Tomorrow will be the 4th day of taking Temaril-P so, I think I need to call the Vet in the morning to check on the dosage...oops, it already is morning!

I'll give the coconut oil a try...thanks!

yeah you need to do every other day as internal medicine specialist and dermatologist say the best way to dose steroids is a therapeutic amount every other day - daily is not good and when you give steroids feed 1/2 meal give steroid then 1/2 meal as it needs to be surrounded by food as it can cause stomach ulcers if given on empty stomach and NEVER EVER MIX AN NSAID WITH A STEROIDS - NSAID IS metacam, rimadyl, deramaxx, etc - NEVER

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yeah you need to do every other day as internal medicine specialist and dermatologist say the best way to dose steroids is a therapeutic amount every other day - daily is not good and when you give steroids feed 1/2 meal give steroid then 1/2 meal as it needs to be surrounded by food as it can cause stomach ulcers if given on empty stomach and NEVER EVER MIX AN NSAID WITH A STEROIDS - NSAID IS metacam, rimadyl, deramaxx, etc - NEVER

I called & spoke with Bella's Vet this morning (whom I have tremendous respect) for clarification on Bella's med's.

He said for now until we get her under control, he would like for me to use the Temaril-P as directed (1 tab q 12 h daily) and not worry about tapering the dosage just yet.

Since her coughing/breathing is still pretty bad (especially, during the wee hours of the a.m.) he wants me to add the Val-Turbogesic syrup (q 4 hrs, as needed).

I've been giving Bella the Temaril-P & Amoxicillan immediately after her meals...I'll check with her Vet on Monday and see if he wants me to do anything different...but, your way does sound prudent! We don't want no stinkin' ulcers, too!

IF and I mean IF...I needed to seek out a 2nd opinion, does anyone know of a good Internist (didn't even know they have 'em in Veterinary medicine!) out my way? I live in Murrieta, CA (Riverside County) but, relatively close to Orange & San Diego County, too.

Thanks Debbie for sharing...

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

I called & spoke with Bella's Vet this morning (whom I have tremendous respect) for clarification on Bella's med's.

He said for now until we get her under control, he would like for me to use the Temaril-P as directed (1 tab q 12 h daily) and not worry about tapering the dosage just yet.

Since her coughing/breathing is still pretty bad (especially, during the wee hours of the a.m.) he wants me to add the Val-Turbogesic syrup (q 4 hrs, as needed).

I've been giving Bella the Temaril-P & Amoxicillan immediately after her meals...I'll check with her Vet on Monday and see if he wants me to do anything different...but, your way does sound prudent! We don't want no stinkin' ulcers, too!

IF and I mean IF...I needed to seek out a 2nd opinion, does anyone know of a good Internist (didn't even know they have 'em in Veterinary medicine!) out my way? I live in Murrieta, CA (Riverside County) but, relatively close to Orange & San Diego County, too.

Thanks Debbie for sharing...

I agree with vet as you do need to get under control then taper back but your goal should be every other day as not good to give steroids daily

do you live near garden grove? as dr dodds is there and she does all blood work and titers for me and she is excellent with blood work.

I will let you know as i am in ventura county - i have heard of a good surgeon in san diego from someone on here llcornell - maybe pm her as that hospital will have a good internist i am sure - also dr dodds will know the best internist as well in orange county ---www.hemopet.com or hemopet@hotmail.com

[dwerten]

you know i did not know what an internal medicine specialist was until dex almost died of pancreatitis and then i found out they have further schooling than regular vet and md so i now see one as my regular physician as well as my insurance covers it instead of going to a general practicioner so it is amazing what you learn with a sick dog lol