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ThorsMom09 · 05-07-2009, 07:28 AM

Awww Thank you for offering

I am not really sure that it would work though because it is a prescription only thing. I will talk to the vet though and see if there is anything that he can do, like call the pharmacy or whatever, and if he can, I will email you....

Thank you sooo much for offering though!!!

julietimothy · 05-07-2009, 08:05 AM

The meds may not work unless you have found the underlying condition. All colitis is an inflammation of the colon. You have to find out why the colon is inflammated. I have a vet book and it say to use a high fiber diet, this book is wrote by vets. And it says that most colitis is a inflammatory bowel diseases that whipworms are frequent cause of. And then there is Fungal Colitis but is uncommon. Dogs with immune deficiency and lowered resistance may get it. And then you have Prototheca colitis again is rare caused by an algae. So Colitis is just part of what your dogs has you need to have a colon biopsy, & the stool need to be check for parasites and fungi. To find the underlying condition. I am sure you can search and get even more info of it, but this book is vert good and it does not say any kind of med that will help with out knowing the uderlying cause, but does say high fiber diet helps. I think I would try it, and ask you vet alot of question to find what is causeing it. Good luck I hope this helps. (all ways do your homework when you have a vet tell you what is wrong, they are people just like you and me. Read up on it and then is when you will know the questions you need to ask. Have a great day, and good luck. If you find out more let us know.

ThorsMom09 · 05-07-2009, 09:02 AM

The form that he has, has no known cause.

We have done MULTIPLE tests on parasites, he is completely clean.

The GI/GU intern at the University of Missouri said it may have been caused from trauma to his colon when he was impacted at 6 weeks old.

Here is the form of colitis he has.

Lymphocytic-plasmacytic Inflammatory Bowel Disease

Canine lymphocytic-plasmacytic gastroenteritis(LP) is one disease in a group of idiopathic, chronic intestinal diseases collectively termed inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), and is considered to be the most common cause of chronic vomiting and diarrhea in dogs. LP gastroenteritis is characterized by a diffuse infiltration of lymnphocytes and plasma cells into the lamina propria of the stomach and/or the small intestine resulting in diffuse mucosal inflammation. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic is the most prevalent form of IBD. Other forms of IBD may be due to other cellular infiltrates (i.e. eosinophilic gastroenteritis, granulomatous enteritis, chronic histiocytic ulcerative colitis in Boxers).
The definitive cause and pathogenesis of this disease remains unknown. It is thought that an abnormal mucosal immune response to various environmental antigens, potentially dietary or parasitic in origin, results in a host hypersensitivity reaction that is responsible for the recruitment of inflammatory cells. Continued exposure to the antigen perpetuates the gastrointestinal inflammation. Subsequent damage results from the elaboration of cytokines, release of proteolytic and lysosomal enzymes, complement activation secondary to immune complex deposition, and the generation of oxygen free radicals. Delayed gastric emptying can then occur secondary to the inflammation. Hereditary factors may also influence the development of IBD.

lovemy2boys · 05-07-2009, 10:01 PM

Poor thing! Not sure if you have heard this already have you tried pooping him? Thats what I did with my boys when they were babies they will probably poop in your hand which sounds like you will be fine with.. just hold the babies butt under warm water and rub its tummy and butt with a wet paper towl. hope this is helpful we have done this with all the small dogs we have ever owned.

Jemma · 05-11-2009, 02:52 AM

You finally found the answer. Are you satisfied with the findings? Meaning do you accept what little Thors has? This isn't coming out right, lol.
You know Thor better than anyone and you have done so much of your own research. I'm asking if this seems accurate of a diagnoisis to what Thor has been having? Does it fit?

Didn't one of the vets previously consider IBS or colitis? I have colitis and it isn't nice. That's why I thought it might be that aways back. Hard little stool with liquid bypassing. It is painful...sometimes I use to say it was more painful then labor, the gas build up you get before you go. grrrrrrrr So many threads I dare not go back to the beginning and read them all again. This has been a real medical education for us all though. If someone ever comes to the board and states their pup has what Thors does, we'll immediately send them to you, hahahaha

Carol AND Jemma

Sherri82 · 02-21-2011, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorsMom09

The form that he has, has no known cause.

We have done MULTIPLE tests on parasites, he is completely clean.

The GI/GU intern at the University of Missouri said it may have been caused from trauma to his colon when he was impacted at 6 weeks old.

Here is the form of colitis he has.

Lymphocytic-plasmacytic Inflammatory Bowel Disease

Canine lymphocytic-plasmacytic gastroenteritis(LP) is one disease in a group of idiopathic, chronic intestinal diseases collectively termed inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), and is considered to be the most common cause of chronic vomiting and diarrhea in dogs. LP gastroenteritis is characterized by a diffuse infiltration of lymnphocytes and plasma cells into the lamina propria of the stomach and/or the small intestine resulting in diffuse mucosal inflammation. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic is the most prevalent form of IBD. Other forms of IBD may be due to other cellular infiltrates (i.e. eosinophilic gastroenteritis, granulomatous enteritis, chronic histiocytic ulcerative colitis in Boxers).
The definitive cause and pathogenesis of this disease remains unknown. It is thought that an abnormal mucosal immune response to various environmental antigens, potentially dietary or parasitic in origin, results in a host hypersensitivity reaction that is responsible for the recruitment of inflammatory cells. Continued exposure to the antigen perpetuates the gastrointestinal inflammation. Subsequent damage results from the elaboration of cytokines, release of proteolytic and lysosomal enzymes, complement activation secondary to immune complex deposition, and the generation of oxygen free radicals. Delayed gastric emptying can then occur secondary to the inflammation. Hereditary factors may also influence the development of IBD.

If you are still on here, I would love to talk to you. I am praying that you are still on here. I have been searching for weeks and weeks now on what is happening to my baby. I have been in and out of the vets with my yorkie. She has the same exact problems as Thor. The day i brought her home things were wrong when it was her first time to go poop. I NEVER knew dog could scream and cry and grunt and strain and go balistic when attempting to go poop and nothing but a little dollop comes out. i go back to the vet thursday. He is recomending me to the specialist. Surgery... I have X Rays of her colon. The told me constipation/ obstipation, dyschezia, and colitis. That was her diagnosis in a nut shell. Basil will be 4 months old March 1st. Please, I sure hope you are on here still. I need someone to help me with this. I do not want Basil to die.

Sherri82 · 02-21-2011, 05:51 PM

I am also a butt bather. Like twice to three or four times a day. constantly cleaning her kennel out, and her blankets. My own clothes. She strains so hard she pees. I really need help. I am reaching out to you. I am the other case if you have not found more. Here is a link to one of Basils episodes. Not the worse one I have witness but the only one I could get at the time to bring right to the vet. It is sad to watch.

YouTube - Trying to go the bathroom

Jemma · 02-22-2011, 02:54 AM

bump bump old thread with new post

143julz · 02-22-2011, 07:20 AM

OH NO!! How horrible. I don't have any experience, I wish you luck at the vets and hope your little one gets the help it needs.

I hope the OP will see this in time

deeda9999 · 02-22-2011, 09:51 AM

OMG I feel so bad I so hope you are able to find help. I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your beautiful pup.

Buster Brown · 02-22-2011, 10:02 AM

Poor baby. I hope you can figure out what is wrong and help her out. I am so sorry she has to go through this.

sashajade · 02-22-2011, 10:03 AM

My sasha suffered from colitis and when she was having a flare up i would feed her just boiled chicken and rice until it got better, worked a treat

Breezeaway · 02-22-2011, 10:34 AM

I had a puppy that did that, Her rectum was red and raw, so everytime she strained it just pushed it out further. Took her to my vet and he prescribed Derma-vet ointment for her rectum and SD prescription food to soften her stool until she healed. It took about a week or week and half and she has been fine ever since.

ThorsMom09 · 03-05-2011, 11:56 AM

Sherri, it has been a long time since I have come here.

Our Little Thor did finally get better. He was out doing one of his most favorite things in the world one day, playing hide and seek with Rob, Yes, he knew how to play this game. Well, he got spooked by something and ran under Rob's foot and Rob was unable to alter his footing and Thor was killed. We didn't sleep for 2 days. Thor is now buried under the tree he would hide behind.

We spent almost a year making him healthy, he had 8 months of a happy, pain free life and then he was gone. We got a new dog the following weekend because the house was not the same without him. We opted for a large dog and now we have a one year old lab mix who was a rescue. She now plays hide and seek just like little Thor did and there are less dangers but Thor is still with us in spirit and we miss him so much all of the time....

Now, on to what finally made the difference.

Our vet found someone to mix up cortisone enemas. We gave little Thor 2 enemas a day for 10 days. Once this was finished...he never had another problem. I am unsure of the name of the medication. THe vet who finally helped us cure him was Dr. Mobley of Kennett Missouri. I haven't had the heart yet to tell this vet that Thor lost his life so tragically....but he is the reason Thor's last 8 months wwere so happy.

Good luck and best wishes.

MaddiesMommie · 03-05-2011, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorsMom09

Sherri, it has been a long time since I have come here.

Our Little Thor did finally get better. He was out doing one of his most favorite things in the world one day, playing hide and seek with Rob, Yes, he knew how to play this game. Well, he got spooked by something and ran under Rob's foot and Rob was unable to alter his footing and Thor was killed. We didn't sleep for 2 days. Thor is now buried under the tree he would hide behind.

We spent almost a year making him healthy, he had 8 months of a happy, pain free life and then he was gone. We got a new dog the following weekend because the house was not the same without him. We opted for a large dog and now we have a one year old lab mix who was a rescue. She now plays hide and seek just like little Thor did and there are less dangers but Thor is still with us in spirit and we miss him so much all of the time....

Now, on to what finally made the difference.

Our vet found someone to mix up cortisone enemas. We gave little Thor 2 enemas a day for 10 days. Once this was finished...he never had another problem. I am unsure of the name of the medication. THe vet who finally helped us cure him was Dr. Mobley of Kennett Missouri. I haven't had the heart yet to tell this vet that Thor lost his life so tragically....but he is the reason Thor's last 8 months wwere so happy.

Good luck and best wishes.

Sharon I am so sorry. I want to send hugs to you and your family. I can't imagine how difficult that must have been.

RIP little Thor

05-07-2009, 07:28 AM	#196
ThorsMom09 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 58	Awww Thank you for offering I am not really sure that it would work though because it is a prescription only thing. I will talk to the vet though and see if there is anything that he can do, like call the pharmacy or whatever, and if he can, I will email you.... Thank you sooo much for offering though!!! __________________ Sharon Rob Parents of Holland , Jonathan , Allison , Angel , Zoe , and Thor .

05-07-2009, 09:02 AM	#198
ThorsMom09 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 58	The form that he has, has no known cause. We have done MULTIPLE tests on parasites, he is completely clean. The GI/GU intern at the University of Missouri said it may have been caused from trauma to his colon when he was impacted at 6 weeks old. Here is the form of colitis he has. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic Inflammatory Bowel Disease Canine lymphocytic-plasmacytic gastroenteritis(LP) is one disease in a group of idiopathic, chronic intestinal diseases collectively termed inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), and is considered to be the most common cause of chronic vomiting and diarrhea in dogs. LP gastroenteritis is characterized by a diffuse infiltration of lymnphocytes and plasma cells into the lamina propria of the stomach and/or the small intestine resulting in diffuse mucosal inflammation. Lymphocytic-plasmacytic is the most prevalent form of IBD. Other forms of IBD may be due to other cellular infiltrates (i.e. eosinophilic gastroenteritis, granulomatous enteritis, chronic histiocytic ulcerative colitis in Boxers). The definitive cause and pathogenesis of this disease remains unknown. It is thought that an abnormal mucosal immune response to various environmental antigens, potentially dietary or parasitic in origin, results in a host hypersensitivity reaction that is responsible for the recruitment of inflammatory cells. Continued exposure to the antigen perpetuates the gastrointestinal inflammation. Subsequent damage results from the elaboration of cytokines, release of proteolytic and lysosomal enzymes, complement activation secondary to immune complex deposition, and the generation of oxygen free radicals. Delayed gastric emptying can then occur secondary to the inflammation. Hereditary factors may also influence the development of IBD. __________________ Sharon Rob Parents of Holland , Jonathan , Allison , Angel , Zoe , and Thor .

05-07-2009, 10:01 PM	#199
lovemy2boys Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: newcastle Posts: 14	Poor little baby with pooping problem Poor thing! Not sure if you have heard this already have you tried pooping him? Thats what I did with my boys when they were babies they will probably poop in your hand which sounds like you will be fine with.. just hold the babies butt under warm water and rub its tummy and butt with a wet paper towl. hope this is helpful we have done this with all the small dogs we have ever owned.

02-22-2011, 02:54 AM	#203
Jemma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 838	bump bump old thread with new post __________________ Carol And Jemma Be Kinder Than Necessary, For Everyone You Meet Is Fighting Some Kind Of Battle

02-22-2011, 07:20 AM	#204
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	OH NO!! How horrible. I don't have any experience, I wish you luck at the vets and hope your little one gets the help it needs. I hope the OP will see this in time __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!

05-07-2009, 08:05 AM	#197
julietimothy YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Frisco City AL Posts: 325 Blog Entries: 1	The meds may not work unless you have found the underlying condition. All colitis is an inflammation of the colon. You have to find out why the colon is inflammated. I have a vet book and it say to use a high fiber diet, this book is wrote by vets. And it says that most colitis is a inflammatory bowel diseases that whipworms are frequent cause of. And then there is Fungal Colitis but is uncommon. Dogs with immune deficiency and lowered resistance may get it. And then you have Prototheca colitis again is rare caused by an algae. So Colitis is just part of what your dogs has you need to have a colon biopsy, & the stool need to be check for parasites and fungi. To find the underlying condition. I am sure you can search and get even more info of it, but this book is vert good and it does not say any kind of med that will help with out knowing the uderlying cause, but does say high fiber diet helps. I think I would try it, and ask you vet alot of question to find what is causeing it. Good luck I hope this helps. (all ways do your homework when you have a vet tell you what is wrong, they are people just like you and me. Read up on it and then is when you will know the questions you need to ask. Have a great day, and good luck. If you find out more let us know.

05-11-2009, 02:52 AM	#200
Jemma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 838	You finally found the answer. Are you satisfied with the findings? Meaning do you accept what little Thors has? This isn't coming out right, lol. You know Thor better than anyone and you have done so much of your own research. I'm asking if this seems accurate of a diagnoisis to what Thor has been having? Does it fit? Didn't one of the vets previously consider IBS or colitis? I have colitis and it isn't nice. That's why I thought it might be that aways back. Hard little stool with liquid bypassing. It is painful...sometimes I use to say it was more painful then labor, the gas build up you get before you go. grrrrrrrr So many threads I dare not go back to the beginning and read them all again. This has been a real medical education for us all though. If someone ever comes to the board and states their pup has what Thors does, we'll immediately send them to you, hahahaha Carol AND Jemma

02-22-2011, 09:51 AM	#205
deeda9999 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: long island, ny, usa Posts: 115	OMG I feel so bad I so hope you are able to find help. I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your beautiful pup.

02-22-2011, 10:02 AM	#206
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	Poor baby. I hope you can figure out what is wrong and help her out. I am so sorry she has to go through this. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

02-22-2011, 10:03 AM	#207
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	My sasha suffered from colitis and when she was having a flare up i would feed her just boiled chicken and rice until it got better, worked a treat __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

02-22-2011, 10:34 AM	#208
Breezeaway No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wildcat Country(KY) Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 26	I had a puppy that did that, Her rectum was red and raw, so everytime she strained it just pushed it out further. Took her to my vet and he prescribed Derma-vet ointment for her rectum and SD prescription food to soften her stool until she healed. It took about a week or week and half and she has been fine ever since.

03-05-2011, 11:56 AM	#209
ThorsMom09 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arkansas Posts: 58	Sherri, it has been a long time since I have come here. Our Little Thor did finally get better. He was out doing one of his most favorite things in the world one day, playing hide and seek with Rob, Yes, he knew how to play this game. Well, he got spooked by something and ran under Rob's foot and Rob was unable to alter his footing and Thor was killed. We didn't sleep for 2 days. Thor is now buried under the tree he would hide behind. We spent almost a year making him healthy, he had 8 months of a happy, pain free life and then he was gone. We got a new dog the following weekend because the house was not the same without him. We opted for a large dog and now we have a one year old lab mix who was a rescue. She now plays hide and seek just like little Thor did and there are less dangers but Thor is still with us in spirit and we miss him so much all of the time.... Now, on to what finally made the difference. Our vet found someone to mix up cortisone enemas. We gave little Thor 2 enemas a day for 10 days. Once this was finished...he never had another problem. I am unsure of the name of the medication. THe vet who finally helped us cure him was Dr. Mobley of Kennett Missouri. I haven't had the heart yet to tell this vet that Thor lost his life so tragically....but he is the reason Thor's last 8 months wwere so happy. Good luck and best wishes. __________________ Sharon Rob Parents of Holland , Jonathan , Allison , Angel , Zoe , and Thor .