My little Olive - succumbed to Anesthesia nightmare - Page 9 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Mom2Lulu · 03-20-2009, 01:58 AM

I'm so sorry about Olive! Please accept my sincerest sympathy for your loss.

Your thread has helped me immensely. I have had Lulu for a month, and I'm so deeply in love with her already, and I am worried sick about having her spayed. Because of this site, I made sure I found a highly recommended vet and made an appt. They asked if I wanted to go ahead and schedule the spay, and I said no. I just wanted to confer and get her a check up. The vet was awesome. Lulu is 6 months and 1 week old, weighs 2.7 lbs., and he said she wasn't ready to be spayed. She still has a little soft spot on her head, which he said, felt like it was trying to close, and also, she still has baby teeth. He said he wants her to lose the baby teeth and many were loose, but said nothing about pulling them. He said he wants her to lose the baby teeth before he spays her, and to bring her back in 2 months. He didn't say anything about the first heat and did not give me a sense of urgency at all. I told him I was worried about having her spayed because of her size, and he said he highly recommends having it done, but he never specified "when". So, now I'm wondering if there is a correlation between the baby teeth and time of spay? This thread is the first I have heard of pulling them. Do Yorkies not lose them easily? Is pulling them common?

Misti1 · 03-20-2009, 02:26 AM

I can't even imagine how you (and your vet staff) must feel. I had my less than 3 pounder at 9 months spayed two weeks ago, and all went well,. I spent that day in a time warp though. They assured me that they spay chichuas that are smaller than her though.

What a void you must feel...I can only imagine. I'm so sorry this happened. There are no explanations that will do.

Getting your baby spayed before first heat was a responsible step as a pet owner who has no intention of breeding. BEfore I knew better, I did not spay a girl I had because I was so sure on dog could ever "get" to her, so why bother...I came home one day and found her in a pool of blood because her uterus had ruptured, so the reverse is not pretty either.

You did the RIGHT thing. You had NO way of knowing that this would happen, and no one is to blame, not even your vet. Please know that this happened for some reason, and it does happen, but it is one of those things in life we always thing will happen to "someone else", but someone is that "someone", and this time it was you, our fellow board member, so it hits close to home.

We all reach out our arms across cyber space to hug you. Being yorkie owners we all put ourselves in your shoes, and catch our breaths, because "there but for the grace of God go I."

Please heal, and do what you need to do to have another baby in your life.

Bianca · 03-20-2009, 02:27 AM

I am so so sorry!

Please accept my condolences

Yorkies-Mom · 03-20-2009, 03:45 AM

I just wanted to say that I am so very sorry for your loss,too!

i can't begin to imagine how hard this time is for you.

mollie jade · 03-20-2009, 03:52 AM

I am very sorry for your loss . You are in my thoughts.

Baileyrosemomma · 03-20-2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Misti1

I can't even imagine how you (and your vet staff) must feel. I had my less than 3 pounder at 9 months spayed two weeks ago, and all went well,. I spent that day in a time warp though. They assured me that they spay chichuas that are smaller than her though.

What a void you must feel...I can only imagine. I'm so sorry this happened. There are no explanations that will do.

Getting your baby spayed before first heat was a responsible step as a pet owner who has no intention of breeding. BEfore I knew better, I did not spay a girl I had because I was so sure on dog could ever "get" to her, so why bother...I came home one day and found her in a pool of blood because her uterus had ruptured, so the reverse is not pretty either.

You did the RIGHT thing. You had NO way of knowing that this would happen, and no one is to blame, not even your vet. Please know that this happened for some reason, and it does happen, but it is one of those things in life we always thing will happen to "someone else", but someone is that "someone", and this time it was you, our fellow board member, so it hits close to home.

We all reach out our arms across cyber space to hug you. Being yorkie owners we all put ourselves in your shoes, and catch our breaths, because "there but for the grace of God go I."

Please heal, and do what you need to do to have another baby in your life.

They suggest if the teeth do not fall out to get them done at the same time. This way it is only once they have to go under. I think I read that it is common for alot of toy breeds to retain there puppy teeth...not just yorkies.

Lolasmom1211 · 03-20-2009, 06:05 AM

I just wanted to tell you that although it may not be much comfort to you at this time, you did save my little girls life. I was scheduled to have her spayed several times and each time my husband made me cancel it. He kept telling me she was too small and I kept telling him the vet felt comfortable doing it, we should too. Well, when Lola was very young she had gotten sick and has never eaten much...the question of a liver shunt had come up repeatedly with her, but my vet kept saying over and over, "she has no symptoms of a liver shunt, she is just a picky eater and very small...we don't need to bile acid test her" - well after reading your story, I insisted on a bile acid test on 2/23/09. It came back incredibly high. I flew her to see Dr Tobias at the University of Tennessee on 3/5/09 for scintigraphy, which showed a large shunt; she underwent surgery on 3/6/09 and is home and doing fine now. Had I let them put her under anesthetic for a spay when she was scheduled, I don't think she would have made it due to how these liver shunt babies process anesthetic with their damaged livers. Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting your story....as painful as it must have been and as heartbroken as you must be, please know the good that you have done. My thoughts and prayers are with you in your time of grief, but you will have my eternal gratitude for sharing and giving my Lola the chance that you have given her! Please know that sweet little Olive will be remembered each and every day in our home. God bless you.

Sookie · 03-20-2009, 06:54 AM

My little Matty is only 3 pounds. She has already had her first heat, but I have decided not to have her spayed unless or until I feel she is physically ready. I don't know when or if that day will ever come - I definately will not breed her - but in the meantime I am happy with the decision I have made to wait. She is never alone and we have no male dog, so there is no chance of her getting pregnant. I'm just too afraid that I could lose her.

ParrotLady · 03-20-2009, 07:36 AM

You are so thoughtful to post this experience here for others, even though I know you may think you just wanted comfort. I have been trying to read all about spaying before taking our little one in, and this story just breaks my heart.

I am very, very sorry for your loss.

I am also very, very thankful that you and everyone else posted on this thread to help you and others.

Dana2657 · 03-20-2009, 08:09 AM

Im am so sorry, my heart just breaks, if this happened to my Paris i would be devistated. My Paris is 1 yr and NOT spayed yet. I have had many dogs throughout my life spayed and not spayed and have found no difference in the life span. I will spay my Paris when the time is right for me and her. Once again my sympathy to you and your family and Olive.

kooki · 03-20-2009, 08:37 AM

I am so very sorry for your loss. You and your whole family are in our thoughts. (((Big big hugs for you))). Once again so sorry.

cocoangel · 03-20-2009, 12:44 PM

oh how my heart aches for you right now! I know exactly what you are feeling, as I lost my beloved little Coco last June while under anesthesia. I still have not gotten over it and think perhaps I never will.

I chose not to spay her younger sister (who was scheduled to go in a week after I lost Coco) and also not to spay our newer puppy. Mine are 2 1/2 & almost 4 lbs.

dogbert · 03-20-2009, 01:21 PM

My heart goes out to you I am so sorry for your loss.

RONLYNN · 03-20-2009, 07:42 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about your baby Olive. It must have been a fluke accident (I know that doesn't help you any) but Teddi is only 3 lbs. currently and 2 1/2 years old. She had a liver shunt (but I didn't find out until she was 1 year) and before she was 1 year she had surgery twice. Once she got spayed and once she had some teeth taken out. She was probably no more than 2.5 lbs. when she had both of those surgeries. I know someone who had liver shunt surgery on her yorkie at 9 WEEKS, which was why I wasn't scared for Teddi to have any surgery because I figured at 9 weeks her dog had to be smaller than Teddi.

okat76 · 03-21-2009, 01:56 PM

OMG You poor thing and poor little olive. I am so sorry and my heart goes out to you.

03-20-2009, 01:58 AM	#121
Mom2Lulu Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 74	I'm so sorry about Olive! Please accept my sincerest sympathy for your loss. Your thread has helped me immensely. I have had Lulu for a month, and I'm so deeply in love with her already, and I am worried sick about having her spayed. Because of this site, I made sure I found a highly recommended vet and made an appt. They asked if I wanted to go ahead and schedule the spay, and I said no. I just wanted to confer and get her a check up. The vet was awesome. Lulu is 6 months and 1 week old, weighs 2.7 lbs., and he said she wasn't ready to be spayed. She still has a little soft spot on her head, which he said, felt like it was trying to close, and also, she still has baby teeth. He said he wants her to lose the baby teeth and many were loose, but said nothing about pulling them. He said he wants her to lose the baby teeth before he spays her, and to bring her back in 2 months. He didn't say anything about the first heat and did not give me a sense of urgency at all. I told him I was worried about having her spayed because of her size, and he said he highly recommends having it done, but he never specified "when". So, now I'm wondering if there is a correlation between the baby teeth and time of spay? This thread is the first I have heard of pulling them. Do Yorkies not lose them easily? Is pulling them common? __________________ Live, Laugh, Love!

03-20-2009, 02:26 AM	#122
Misti1 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 3,051	I can't even imagine how you (and your vet staff) must feel. I had my less than 3 pounder at 9 months spayed two weeks ago, and all went well,. I spent that day in a time warp though. They assured me that they spay chichuas that are smaller than her though. What a void you must feel...I can only imagine. I'm so sorry this happened. There are no explanations that will do. Getting your baby spayed before first heat was a responsible step as a pet owner who has no intention of breeding. BEfore I knew better, I did not spay a girl I had because I was so sure on dog could ever "get" to her, so why bother...I came home one day and found her in a pool of blood because her uterus had ruptured, so the reverse is not pretty either. You did the RIGHT thing. You had NO way of knowing that this would happen, and no one is to blame, not even your vet. Please know that this happened for some reason, and it does happen, but it is one of those things in life we always thing will happen to "someone else", but someone is that "someone", and this time it was you, our fellow board member, so it hits close to home. We all reach out our arms across cyber space to hug you. Being yorkie owners we all put ourselves in your shoes, and catch our breaths, because "there but for the grace of God go I." Please heal, and do what you need to do to have another baby in your life. __________________ Member of the Spoiled Rotten Club

03-20-2009, 03:45 AM	#124
Yorkies-Mom YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 481	I just wanted to say that I am so very sorry for your loss,too! i can't begin to imagine how hard this time is for you. __________________ mon petit chou,Romeo

03-20-2009, 06:54 AM	#128
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 5,452	My little Matty is only 3 pounds. She has already had her first heat, but I have decided not to have her spayed unless or until I feel she is physically ready. I don't know when or if that day will ever come - I definately will not breed her - but in the meantime I am happy with the decision I have made to wait. She is never alone and we have no male dog, so there is no chance of her getting pregnant. I'm just too afraid that I could lose her. __________________ I LOVE MY BABIES

03-20-2009, 07:36 AM	#129
ParrotLady Donating YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ross, TX Posts: 259	You are so thoughtful to post this experience here for others, even though I know you may think you just wanted comfort. I have been trying to read all about spaying before taking our little one in, and this story just breaks my heart. I am very, very sorry for your loss. I am also very, very thankful that you and everyone else posted on this thread to help you and others. __________________ Tracie and Penny http://www.parrot-and-conure-world.com

03-20-2009, 02:27 AM	#123
Bianca No Longer a Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Posts: 761	I am so so sorry! Please accept my condolences

03-20-2009, 03:52 AM	#125
mollie jade YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 712	I am very sorry for your loss . You are in my thoughts.

03-20-2009, 06:05 AM	#127
Lolasmom1211 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 664	I just wanted to tell you that although it may not be much comfort to you at this time, you did save my little girls life. I was scheduled to have her spayed several times and each time my husband made me cancel it. He kept telling me she was too small and I kept telling him the vet felt comfortable doing it, we should too. Well, when Lola was very young she had gotten sick and has never eaten much...the question of a liver shunt had come up repeatedly with her, but my vet kept saying over and over, "she has no symptoms of a liver shunt, she is just a picky eater and very small...we don't need to bile acid test her" - well after reading your story, I insisted on a bile acid test on 2/23/09. It came back incredibly high. I flew her to see Dr Tobias at the University of Tennessee on 3/5/09 for scintigraphy, which showed a large shunt; she underwent surgery on 3/6/09 and is home and doing fine now. Had I let them put her under anesthetic for a spay when she was scheduled, I don't think she would have made it due to how these liver shunt babies process anesthetic with their damaged livers. Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting your story....as painful as it must have been and as heartbroken as you must be, please know the good that you have done. My thoughts and prayers are with you in your time of grief, but you will have my eternal gratitude for sharing and giving my Lola the chance that you have given her! Please know that sweet little Olive will be remembered each and every day in our home. God bless you.

03-20-2009, 08:09 AM	#130
Dana2657 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: new york Posts: 138	Im am so sorry, my heart just breaks, if this happened to my Paris i would be devistated. My Paris is 1 yr and NOT spayed yet. I have had many dogs throughout my life spayed and not spayed and have found no difference in the life span. I will spay my Paris when the time is right for me and her. Once again my sympathy to you and your family and Olive. __________________ Dana & Paris

03-20-2009, 08:37 AM	#131
kooki Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: california Posts: 114	I am so very sorry for your loss. You and your whole family are in our thoughts. (((Big big hugs for you))). Once again so sorry.

03-20-2009, 12:44 PM	#132
cocoangel Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: jersey shore Posts: 181	oh how my heart aches for you right now! I know exactly what you are feeling, as I lost my beloved little Coco last June while under anesthesia. I still have not gotten over it and think perhaps I never will. I chose not to spay her younger sister (who was scheduled to go in a week after I lost Coco) and also not to spay our newer puppy. Mine are 2 1/2 & almost 4 lbs. __________________ SashaCeCeMaureen CoCoChanel

03-20-2009, 01:21 PM	#133
dogbert Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southern, MN,USA Posts: 3,271 Blog Entries: 1	My heart goes out to you I am so sorry for your loss. __________________ Mammadoodle to my Yorkiedoodle Barney and our crazy cat Ms. Sassy Pants. RIP Audrey-Belle Within the heart of every stray lies the singular desire to be loved

03-20-2009, 07:42 PM	#134
RONLYNN Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 1,635	I'm so sorry to hear about your baby Olive. It must have been a fluke accident (I know that doesn't help you any) but Teddi is only 3 lbs. currently and 2 1/2 years old. She had a liver shunt (but I didn't find out until she was 1 year) and before she was 1 year she had surgery twice. Once she got spayed and once she had some teeth taken out. She was probably no more than 2.5 lbs. when she had both of those surgeries. I know someone who had liver shunt surgery on her yorkie at 9 WEEKS, which was why I wasn't scared for Teddi to have any surgery because I figured at 9 weeks her dog had to be smaller than Teddi. __________________ Ronda & Teddi PPU - Petite Pups United Member The PINK Club Member **

03-21-2009, 01:56 PM	#135
okat76 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 2	OMG You poor thing and poor little olive. I am so sorry and my heart goes out to you.