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Kris Christine · 04-27-2008, 02:41 AM

Kate,

Perhaps you should get a second opinion from a homeopathic/holistic veterinarian, you might find they can help. You can do an online search for one at American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association AHVMA - American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy The Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy.

BLowry · 04-27-2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kate

What is a titer? A blood test of some sort?

I always schedule her appts. on a Monday or a Tues., just in case she gets ill.
I do this even when I get her teeth cleaned. I live in a small town, and nobody is open on the weekends if Sadie gets ill.

Thanks, and I will ask about the Lepto shot. She is doing much better today.

Glad to hear Sadie is feeling better!

A titer is a blood test. They check to see if they have built up immunity to the shots they have been given. I feel they don't need them every year. We don't' get shots every year. I just don't feel it's good for them. JMO

BLowry · 04-27-2008, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerelsker

i have a question. my augie was born 12/26/07, got dpv on 2/19, 3/17 & 4/7, I also did lepto on 4/7 but we are not going to do the booster(we have since decided not to do lepto at all). He should be done with the DPV right? He has rabies coming up 4/28.

But Abby, his sister, had DPV on 3/17 & 4/7 (also lepto). She is due for rabies & DPV. How long between getting DPV should she wait for the Rabies?

I don't know about your vet but, mine sends out reminders when the shot is due. If they don't do that I would ask your vet. They keep records and would be able to tell you when and what is due.

Kate · 04-27-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris Christine

Kate,

Perhaps you should get a second opinion from a homeopathic/holistic veterinarian, you might find they can help. You can do an online search for one at American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association AHVMA - American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy The Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy.

I will check this out. I live in a very small, a three hour drive from Seattle, WA, but I bet they would have a vet of this type.

Thank you.

Kate · 04-27-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BLowry

Glad to hear Sadie is feeling better!

A titer is a blood test. They check to see if they have built up immunity to the shots they have been given. I feel they don't need them every year. We don't' get shots every year. I just don't feel it's good for them. JMO

Thank you Brenda. I sure have gotten alot of good feedback.

Kris Christine · 06-22-2008, 04:23 AM

Holistic Vet Advocates Alternative Pet Care Holistic vet advocates alternative pet care
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 By Susan Banks, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

"I think poor nutrition is responsible for a majority of the chronic
disease we see in animals, and [too many] vaccines are a close second."

"When it comes to vaccines, he's of the unwavering opinion that they
are given too often, sometimes causing long-term effects that may not
be immediately apparent. Certain cancers have been linked to vaccines,
and it is thought some autoimmune problems and perhaps seizure
disorders are also triggered by boosters. "

Ellie May · 06-23-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KathyinCali

Crystal - I am going to have to take Lucy for her shots next month. Her shots have to be kept current since she travels so much internationally with me. Do you know the minimum I can get away with? Also, what do you think of the Lepto? Is that a bad one? Thanks for your help.

I'm so sorry I missed this.

I don't always come back to old threads.
If you have a question specifically for me, feel free to ask in my visitors messages area.

I absolutely, positively hate the lepto vaccine. I am not saying not to give it but I feel that it is extremely dangerous to small dogs and should only be given when it is absolutely necessary AND there is no history of reaction to it. You should wait for 20-30 minutes at the vet office after it is given and it should be given separately from all other shots. I think Pfizer makes one. Fort Dodge isn't on my good list right now.

This vaccine is way over used and is only necessary in certain areas. Just make sure the benefit outweighs the risk before giving it in your area of the country.

I have no idea about international vaccinations laws and it is probably good that I don't because if I did, it would make me very upset to see how many vaccines they insist our dogs get.

littlelady · 06-23-2008, 10:41 PM

My newest puppy has been sick he had so much going on, took him to the park, he had his vaccines 9 week old, he had coccidia when I got him, my daughter dropped him out of her arms he landed on a rock on his side. he only fell 1 foot but still falling for a little yorkie is bad, he wasn't hurt too bad but he yelped upon falling, he got up and ran right back into her arms.
He recently was hospitalized for bloody diarrhea and vomiting. His albumin was low so he was given Plasma proteins, upon picking him up on Monday and taking him to my regular vet his blood was drawn for further work up and a BAT he is only 11 weeks old. It was elevated.
He was given further plasma on Monday went home that night and I took him back the next day. He is eating and energetic.
I have always listened to my vet about getting the vaccines. I live on 2 acres of land where my dogs can run all over.
he didn't think these problems were brought on by the vaccines. He was getting fed eukanuba and I was switching him over to Royal canin food.
I just lost one yorkie May 5th and I am so nervous this one is sick. My daughter cried thinking he would need surgery for Liver shunt? I know time will tell. The vet was trying to figure out why the episode of vomiting and diarrhea where it sprang up from. I have talked to the breeder and she informed me she has never had a puppy ill like this from the two parents. she is terribly concerned.
I have appreciated getting the information in which is provided here on this forum. It has enriched my knowledge and helped ease my concerns.

Ellie May · 06-24-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by littlelady

My newest puppy has been sick he had so much going on, took him to the park, he had his vaccines 9 week old, he had coccidia when I got him, my daughter dropped him out of her arms he landed on a rock on his side. he only fell 1 foot but still falling for a little yorkie is bad, he wasn't hurt too bad but he yelped upon falling, he got up and ran right back into her arms.
He recently was hospitalized for bloody diarrhea and vomiting. His albumin was low so he was given Plasma proteins, upon picking him up on Monday and taking him to my regular vet his blood was drawn for further work up and a BAT he is only 11 weeks old. It was elevated.
He was given further plasma on Monday went home that night and I took him back the next day. He is eating and energetic.
I have always listened to my vet about getting the vaccines. I live on 2 acres of land where my dogs can run all over.
he didn't think these problems were brought on by the vaccines. He was getting fed eukanuba and I was switching him over to Royal canin food.
I just lost one yorkie May 5th and I am so nervous this one is sick. My daughter cried thinking he would need surgery for Liver shunt? I know time will tell. The vet was trying to figure out why the episode of vomiting and diarrhea where it sprang up from. I have talked to the breeder and she informed me she has never had a puppy ill like this from the two parents. she is terribly concerned.
I have appreciated getting the information in which is provided here on this forum. It has enriched my knowledge and helped ease my concerns.

While it could be liver shunt, the bile acids are going to be elevated right now after giving vaccines and your pup being sick.

What were the results?

littlelady · 06-27-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

Please listen to Ladymom on this.
Rabies should always be given separately.
Lepto should always be given separately.
Corona really shouldn't be given at all.
Besides the increased risk of reaction to all those shots, giving that many at once can negate immunity...

BREEDER GAVE HIM THE FOLLOWING
5/15 CANINE PARAINFLUENZA BORDATELLA BRONCHISEPTICA ,FECAL/DEWORMING 4/14-PYR X2, 5/14-PANACURE, 5/15-PANACURE, 4-28-08 DISTEMPER-HEPATITIS (CAV-2) CANINE PARVOVIRUS,PARAINFLUENZA,
I got this pup on 5-16-08 and he was given DHLP-P-C ON 5/17 AND 6/06 AT MY VET'S OFFICE.
He has had coccidia and campuli bacter. I am wondering if his bought with the bloody diarrhea and vomitting is from getting the vaccines?

Kris Christine · 06-28-2008, 09:47 AM

Littlelady,

According to a presentation entitled Avoiding Vaccine Reactions in Dogs and Cats by Dr. Craig E. Greene at the 2003 World Small Animal Veterinary Association, Avoiding Vaccine Reactions - WSAVA 2003 Congress,

"Immunologic reactions that can develop following vaccination can be categorized as to the four classical types of hypersensitivity reactions. Type I reactions involve an interaction with cytophilic IgE and antigen with resultant degranulation of circulating basophils and tissue mast cells. In the dog, signs are facial edema, hypotensive shock, weakness, dyspnea and diarrhea."

It is certainly a possibility that he experienced an adverse reaction to vaccination. I hope he's better.

jim n · 06-29-2008, 06:43 AM

We gave Syd all of the puppy shots recommended by our breeder and vet. He had his rabies at another time. I informed our vet when we first brought Syd in for his initial set of shots that we would not be filling him full of vaccines every year. Before he has anymore vaccinations we will do a bloood titer first to determine if the vaccines already in his system are still protecting.

06-22-2008, 04:23 AM	#21
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Holistic Vet Advocates Alternative Pet Care Holistic Vet Advocates Alternative Pet Care Holistic vet advocates alternative pet care Tuesday, June 10, 2008 By Susan Banks, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette "I think poor nutrition is responsible for a majority of the chronic disease we see in animals, and [too many] vaccines are a close second." "When it comes to vaccines, he's of the unwavering opinion that they are given too often, sometimes causing long-term effects that may not be immediately apparent. Certain cancers have been linked to vaccines, and it is thought some autoimmune problems and perhaps seizure disorders are also triggered by boosters. "

06-23-2008, 10:41 PM	#23
littlelady Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 380	I appreciate the information My newest puppy has been sick he had so much going on, took him to the park, he had his vaccines 9 week old, he had coccidia when I got him, my daughter dropped him out of her arms he landed on a rock on his side. he only fell 1 foot but still falling for a little yorkie is bad, he wasn't hurt too bad but he yelped upon falling, he got up and ran right back into her arms. He recently was hospitalized for bloody diarrhea and vomiting. His albumin was low so he was given Plasma proteins, upon picking him up on Monday and taking him to my regular vet his blood was drawn for further work up and a BAT he is only 11 weeks old. It was elevated. He was given further plasma on Monday went home that night and I took him back the next day. He is eating and energetic. I have always listened to my vet about getting the vaccines. I live on 2 acres of land where my dogs can run all over. he didn't think these problems were brought on by the vaccines. He was getting fed eukanuba and I was switching him over to Royal canin food. I just lost one yorkie May 5th and I am so nervous this one is sick. My daughter cried thinking he would need surgery for Liver shunt? I know time will tell. The vet was trying to figure out why the episode of vomiting and diarrhea where it sprang up from. I have talked to the breeder and she informed me she has never had a puppy ill like this from the two parents. she is terribly concerned. I have appreciated getting the information in which is provided here on this forum. It has enriched my knowledge and helped ease my concerns.

04-27-2008, 02:41 AM	#16
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Kate, Perhaps you should get a second opinion from a homeopathic/holistic veterinarian, you might find they can help. You can do an online search for one at American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association AHVMA - American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy The Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy.

06-28-2008, 09:47 AM	#26
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Littlelady, According to a presentation entitled Avoiding Vaccine Reactions in Dogs and Cats by Dr. Craig E. Greene at the 2003 World Small Animal Veterinary Association, Avoiding Vaccine Reactions - WSAVA 2003 Congress, "Immunologic reactions that can develop following vaccination can be categorized as to the four classical types of hypersensitivity reactions. Type I reactions involve an interaction with cytophilic IgE and antigen with resultant degranulation of circulating basophils and tissue mast cells. In the dog, signs are facial edema, hypotensive shock, weakness, dyspnea and diarrhea." It is certainly a possibility that he experienced an adverse reaction to vaccination. I hope he's better.

06-29-2008, 06:43 AM	#27
jim n Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 202	We gave Syd all of the puppy shots recommended by our breeder and vet. He had his rabies at another time. I informed our vet when we first brought Syd in for his initial set of shots that we would not be filling him full of vaccines every year. Before he has anymore vaccinations we will do a bloood titer first to determine if the vaccines already in his system are still protecting.