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bchgirl · 05-14-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl

You can actually breed father/daughter Mother/son just not brothers/sisters
My nephew always breeds mother to son

When you line breed you are doubling up on any faults. Beyond knowing your lines expicitly the expects advise no closer than father/neice or mother/nephew.

Silkygirl21 · 05-14-2009, 10:16 AM

im not an idiot ok i know not to breed a daughter and a father. shes not papaered

Silkygirl21 · 05-14-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

When you line breed you are doubling up on any faults. Beyond knowing your lines expicitly the expects advise no closer than father/neice or mother/nephew.

really wow i didn't know that

Silkygirl21 · 05-14-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AshSavalle

i hate to say it but it is people like this that make wrong decisions that the poor puppies and new owners have to deal with. I thought about breeding and read up on in (even in the breeders thread here) and came to realize it really is not worth it. If i had the time and money i maybe would. But from what I read you have to have your dog tested for breeding and do an entire family background check to make sure there aren't any underlying medical issues.

At 20 I could not even imagine trying to take on breeding. Especially if I couldn't even afford a vet checkup and shots. Come on, you should know better. Do some research on it and wake up.

Also, you better NOT breed the two dogs together, that are related!

you know what i have done research and im not an idiot. i can afford the shots not the check up and de worming. not all twenty year olds are ****ing rich. and i know not to breed father and daughter. her father already has medical problems so im sure his daughter will probably have medical problems.

AshSavalle · 05-14-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkygirl21

god everybody stop arguing. all puppies are different. some can get their shots at 6-8 weeks and some can get them later. my breeder didn't give them any shots or anything becasue her vet doesn't do them until them are 8 weeks old. She goes in tommorrow for her first set.

HAHAHAHAHA and YOU were the one that said to stop arguing????

AshSavalle · 05-14-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkygirl21

you know what i have done research and im not an idiot. i can afford the shots not the check up and de worming. not all twenty year olds are ****ing rich. and i know not to breed father and daughter. her father already has medical problems so im sure his daughter will probably have medical problems.

First of all, calm down! Who ever said you were an idiot??? Also, Did you NOT say that you were planning on breeding her?? IT you have done your research you would NOT have bread the male WITH medical issues...GOOD JOB! You dont have to be "rich" to have a dog, just prepared.

phfgkl · 05-14-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

When you line breed you are doubling up on any faults. Beyond knowing your lines expicitly the expects advise no closer than father/neice or mother/nephew.

He has had his lines tested, and that's why he breeds the mother to son, there are NO faults. But, if there are faults then yes, you do not breed them.

AshSavalle · 05-14-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Silkygirl21

you know what i have done research and im not an idiot. i can afford the shots not the check up and de worming. not all twenty year olds are ****ing rich. and i know not to breed father and daughter. her father already has medical problems so im sure his daughter will probably have medical problems.

that is why she should not have bread the father...OR breed the daughter

phfgkl · 05-14-2009, 10:37 AM

And, no, the father should NOT have been bred if he has medical problems. He should have been neutered. I'm not trying to be mean, but, this is why so many innocent little pups have so many problems. Because breeders are NOT doing their homework, and they're not having their dogs tested. A lot of breeders see $ in their eyes, and are breeding without any concerns as to what's going to happen to these poor pups. Just like our golden retrriever, she's almost 4, and for the last year, she has had the worse case of hip dysplasia the vet has ever seen in such a young dog. My son bought her from a breeder, who of course, could only see $ signs, and now that this dog is our dog, she has cost us a lot of money, right under $2000, and that was just by putting her on meds and taking her in for shots, etc. Who is sufferering? The dog and us, and it's all because of a greedy breeder that put 2 dogs together that both had to have had hip dysplasia to have caused this to be so bad!

AshSavalle · 05-14-2009, 10:43 AM

This is actually really sad what you have done. You did someone a favor by letting your dog father puppies knowing that the father has medical issues.

I feel bad for the families that bought the other two puppies from your males litter.

Mom of 3 · 05-14-2009, 10:49 AM

I was just curious. Did the breeder have the tails docked? And are you saying your puppy has Never seen a Vet, even for docking? Did she do it her self? Just wondering.

browniesmom622 · 05-14-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl

You can actually breed father/daughter Mother/son just not brothers/sisters
My nephew always breeds mother to son

Yes i know this But i doubt you think someone that know's nothing on breeding Should do this.

Also i now see the father has health Problem's That is terrible I pray your little girl & the other's will not get these problem's I really hope you spay You Male & Female!!

BTW To the original poster No one said You were an idiot You came here asking a question & we are answering it & commenting & informing you on What you really shouldn't do, We really hope you take our advice.

Silkygirl21 · 05-14-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom of 3

I was just curious. Did the breeder have the tails docked? And are you saying your puppy has Never seen a Vet, even for docking? Did she do it her self? Just wondering.

my puppy did have her tail docked but they did not have an exam done. I dont know honestly why she didn't get their first shots done a six weeks.

Silkygirl21 · 05-14-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by browniesmom622

Yes i know this But i doubt you think someone that know's nothing on breeding Should do this.

Also i now see the father has health Problem's That is terrible I pray your little girl & the other's will not get these problem's I really hope you spay You Male & Female!!

BTW To the original poster No one said You were an idiot You came here asking a question & we are answering it & commenting & informing you on What you really shouldn't do, We really hope you take our advice.

I know my vet said my male was born with dislocated knees and hip displacia. I haven't had him sicne he was a pup if i had known i wouldn't have bread him but i wanted a pup from him

msjagg · 05-14-2009, 09:09 PM

Hi Silkygirl21,
First off I am a retired Vet. Assisstant with over 30 years of experience. I am in no way judging you. I want to tell you the plain facts! Your male shouldn't be bred again now that you know about the Hip Dysplasia and Luxated Patellas. Secondly, Do not breed your female she will carry the faults that her sire had. The only reason to breed your dogs would be for the betterment of the Breed. Since your male has serious faults and your female will carry them and is not registered, There is no reason to breed them!! You do not want to put more puppies @ risk and more families in unfortunate situations where they may not be able to pay for the corrective surgery, you may need to in the future for your male. Start saving a little each week now for "Just in Case" he does need surgery! When I worked @ the Vet we gave shots @ 6,9,and 12 weeks for Distemper and Rabies @ 6 months. If the dog was of a small breed we did the shots in 1/2 doses and sometimes waited until they were a year old to spay/neuter them and gave them 1/2 their Rabies shots. A stool check for your pup will prob. be around $10.00 But, Could save his life. Worms can weaken and kill puppies and older dogs in a few days time. Look for Vaccine Clinics in your area. We just had 1 in Labanon, Pa. and the shots were $10.00 per shot. I took both my Yorkie and Papillion for their shots. They said that now that they have my name on the list, they will send me a yearly reminder when the Clinic is. It is held @ PetSmart. I also took my male Yorkie to Arkansas and had him Neutered,Baby Teeth Pulled,Bloodwork and they found a growth on 1 Testicle. He was given Pain meds before he left and 6 days worth of Pain Meds for @ home as well as 14 days worth of Antibiotics for his surgery to heal right and for the growth removal. It cost $235.00 as compared to $500.00 plus here in Pa. I made the appt. a week in advance and am thrilled @ the grat care he was given... I know that you love and care for your dogs, But, You want to do everything possible to kep them healthy and it does mean sticking to a schedule. Parvo is running rampant again and your baby NEEDS to be protected! Please take your little one to the VET ASAP and start her shots. Talk to your Vet about $$ concerns and he may have a solution to help you. I wish you many Happy and Healthy Years with both your dogs...Hugs,

IMO...

05-14-2009, 10:43 AM	#55
AshSavalle Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 263	This is actually really sad what you have done. You did someone a favor by letting your dog father puppies knowing that the father has medical issues. I feel bad for the families that bought the other two puppies from your males litter. __________________ Proud mommy of TeddyPippo Pina Buddy and Sonny

05-14-2009, 10:49 AM	#56
Mom of 3 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,181	I was just curious. Did the breeder have the tails docked? And are you saying your puppy has Never seen a Vet, even for docking? Did she do it her self? Just wondering. __________________ My 6 Loves Sassy, Gracie, Rosie, Rocky..... Raindrop, and Candy

05-14-2009, 09:09 PM	#60
msjagg YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lancaster, PA. U.S.A. Posts: 1,449	Hi Silkygirl21, First off I am a retired Vet. Assisstant with over 30 years of experience. I am in no way judging you. I want to tell you the plain facts! Your male shouldn't be bred again now that you know about the Hip Dysplasia and Luxated Patellas. Secondly, Do not breed your female she will carry the faults that her sire had. The only reason to breed your dogs would be for the betterment of the Breed. Since your male has serious faults and your female will carry them and is not registered, There is no reason to breed them!! You do not want to put more puppies @ risk and more families in unfortunate situations where they may not be able to pay for the corrective surgery, you may need to in the future for your male. Start saving a little each week now for "Just in Case" he does need surgery! When I worked @ the Vet we gave shots @ 6,9,and 12 weeks for Distemper and Rabies @ 6 months. If the dog was of a small breed we did the shots in 1/2 doses and sometimes waited until they were a year old to spay/neuter them and gave them 1/2 their Rabies shots. A stool check for your pup will prob. be around $10.00 But, Could save his life. Worms can weaken and kill puppies and older dogs in a few days time. Look for Vaccine Clinics in your area. We just had 1 in Labanon, Pa. and the shots were $10.00 per shot. I took both my Yorkie and Papillion for their shots. They said that now that they have my name on the list, they will send me a yearly reminder when the Clinic is. It is held @ PetSmart. I also took my male Yorkie to Arkansas and had him Neutered,Baby Teeth Pulled,Bloodwork and they found a growth on 1 Testicle. He was given Pain meds before he left and 6 days worth of Pain Meds for @ home as well as 14 days worth of Antibiotics for his surgery to heal right and for the growth removal. It cost $235.00 as compared to $500.00 plus here in Pa. I made the appt. a week in advance and am thrilled @ the grat care he was given... I know that you love and care for your dogs, But, You want to do everything possible to kep them healthy and it does mean sticking to a schedule. Parvo is running rampant again and your baby NEEDS to be protected! Please take your little one to the VET ASAP and start her shots. Talk to your Vet about $$ concerns and he may have a solution to help you. I wish you many Happy and Healthy Years with both your dogs...Hugs, IMO... __________________ Jodi G. Mum to : -Sammy,:-Baron Georg, :-Sophie Kennedy, and Carys Bella... Last edited by msjagg; 05-14-2009 at 09:13 PM.

05-14-2009, 10:16 AM	#47
Silkygirl21 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Jordan, Utah, U.S.A Posts: 70 Blog Entries: 1	im not an idiot ok i know not to breed a daughter and a father. shes not papaered

05-14-2009, 10:37 AM	#54
phfgkl BANNED! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,376	And, no, the father should NOT have been bred if he has medical problems. He should have been neutered. I'm not trying to be mean, but, this is why so many innocent little pups have so many problems. Because breeders are NOT doing their homework, and they're not having their dogs tested. A lot of breeders see $ in their eyes, and are breeding without any concerns as to what's going to happen to these poor pups. Just like our golden retrriever, she's almost 4, and for the last year, she has had the worse case of hip dysplasia the vet has ever seen in such a young dog. My son bought her from a breeder, who of course, could only see $ signs, and now that this dog is our dog, she has cost us a lot of money, right under $2000, and that was just by putting her on meds and taking her in for shots, etc. Who is sufferering? The dog and us, and it's all because of a greedy breeder that put 2 dogs together that both had to have had hip dysplasia to have caused this to be so bad!