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Old 06-15-2007, 02:44 PM   #1
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Question Apartment scammers???????

As some of you might know, I've been searching for an apartment...well, I've been talking to "Mr. Fotan Shola" and his "wife" "Mrs. Anita Fotan" (apparently she took his first name ) for some time now.

He's on a missionary in trip in West Africa & just wants someone to get his lovely home clean, blah blah blah. His wife is in the US & he needs cash, yada yada yada.

Anyway...thought I'd share the e-mails

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From: MR.FOTAN SHOLA fotan126@hotmail.com
.ExternalClass P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}Greeting
Newly remodeled & upgraded: 2 bedroom apartment $450. Month to month or lease available. Stainless steel kitchen appliances & washing machine included. Hardwood, tile, and carpet throughout. There are 5 in-ceiling Premium Surround Sound Speakers & recessed lights in the living room. There is cable in the 2 bedrooms upstairs. The master bedroom has a walk-in closet, bathroom, and ceiling fan. The 1 other bedroom have mirrored closet doors.The unit has Central A/C, double pane windows, dining area.The unit has 2 assigned parking spots with ample Visitor parking. Unit has access to swimming pool and basketball court.Owner has put in worth of upgrades.Cats and small dogs OK. Big dogs negotiable.For more information send me an Email to
fotan126@hotmail.com.hope to read from you now
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(Obviously, $450/month is ridiculous lol around here that would go for $850+)


Hi,

Thank you for the response to my ad.

Where is this apartment? Also, is it $450 inclusive or plus utilities? If utilities are not included in the $450, roughly how much are utilities per month for this particular apartment.

Thanks so much,

Sara Renwick




Thanks for the email and it is my gladness to hearing from you.I am Mr Fotan shola,the owner of the house you are making enquiry of.Actually I resided in the house with my family,such as my wife and my only daugther before and presently we had packed due to my transfer from my working place and now situated in the Miami,FL and presently my house is still available for rent for $600 including the utilities like hydro,washer and security,it is furnised.Moreso Now, i went for a Crusade in the West Africa and i will like you to get in touch with my wife in the state for more discussion as She is with the keys and the document to the house.Pls i want you to note that,i am a kind and honest man and also i spent alot on my property that i want to give you for rent,so i will solicit for your absolute mentenance of this house and want you to treat it as your own,is that taken,it is not the money the main problem but want you to keep it tidy allthe time so that i will be glad to see it neat when i came for a check up.i do that oncein a while.I also want you to let me have trust in you as i always stand on my word.

Email my wife Anita, on ( nita.fotan12@hotmail.com )and she will attends to you better.

Thanks and you are welcome

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Old 06-15-2007, 02:45 PM   #2
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From: striker_399@hotmail.com
To: nita.fotan12@hotmail.com
Subject: Apartment for rent
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:41:40 +0000

I have been speaking with your husband about an apartment for rent and he referred me to you for answers to my questions.

Where is the apartment?

Thank you



Dear..
Thanks for the email and also Yes,my husband in respect of Mr Fotan Sholaowed the house and also it is situated at the Kentville,NS, B4N 2K3 , in the Nova Scotia and also want you to know that it was due to my husband transfer that makes us to leave the house and also want to give it out for rent and looking for a resposible person that can take very good care of it as we are not after the money for the rent but want it to be clean at the time and the person that will rent it to take it as if it were its own.So for now,Am here in the State,Miami our
new house and also with the keys of the house,we try to look for an agent that we can give this document before we left but could not see and we are as well as dont wnt our house to be used any how in our present that is why we took it along to us here and as you know that,my husband over in the West africa for a mission of God,so i hope you will promise us to take very good care of the house.So get back to me on how you could take care of our house or perhaps experience you have in rentiong home.Hope you are okay with the price of $700 with the utilities.i look forward to hearing from you ASAP so that an application can be arrange to you and discuss on how to get the house for rent,also are you ready to rent it now or when?More also i will like you to get back to me with your phone number so that my husband can give you a call today
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No, I am not okay with the price of $700 with utilities. Your husband told me that it was going to be $450, then he raised it to $600 and when I asked him why, he never responded.

I will pay $450, not higher.

Also, how will I pay my rent if you're all the way in Miami and your husband is in West Africa?




WE ARE OKAY WITH THE 450!!!! Good hearing from you and i appreciate your expression and i want you to stick to your words.Is that okay with you?And the below is the final question that you must answer to qualify for this the rent of our house?
Moreso,Hope you have a nice working day? also how is the family?Hope fine as well

RENT APPLICATION FORM
Also,Pls let me get this answer.
1)Your Full Name
2)Your Full Address & Phone Number
3)How old are you?
4)Are you married?
5)How many people will be living in the house?
6)Do you have a pet?
7)Do you have a car?
8)Occupation?
9)What is your religion?
10)Are you born again?

Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file incase of issuing the receipt for you and
contacting you.Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the key to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and again i will want you to stick to your words,you know that,we do not see yet and only putting everthing into Gods hand,so please do not let us down in this our property and God bless you more as you do this.
Regards.
Await your reply now.
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Hello.
i await your reply now..kindly get me your phone number so that my husband can give you a call now



$450 per month is acceptable. I do not want to receive a phone call, I prefer communication via e-mail.

Rent Application Form
1) Ushall Geturz
(stole this from someone on here - sorry, had a brain fart lol)
2) Why do you need that?
3) 19
4) No
5) 2
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) Student
9) None
10) What?




Dear Ushall.
Thanks very much for your reply and also i can see your willingness in this rent and how is work?Hope great!!! So as i shall be giving you our house,pls again take care of the house.
However,My husband told me that,if you are ready to rent the house now,then that will not be a problem but we will advice you due to a responsible person like you, to be able to afford an advance for the month of june and july fee now( $900) and also we would like to send the following document to you via the DHL to the address you send to me and the tracking number will be sent to you so that you can possible occupy our house,Pls once again,we are giving you this on trust and do not dissapoint us and i promise you that,you will love the house.So i am with the below document here with me and i will like you send the payment of this first and secondmonth because i shall be coming by next month end to check on you so that i can know how you take care of our house for us and if it is okay by me,then i shall be collecting the next payment from you by myself.Morelso if you want me to come down and show you round the house i will come as soon as you make the payment today to my lovly husband..
Here are the contents of the document.
1) Entrance and the rooms Keys
2)Paper/Permanent house form(Containing your reference details)
3)The house documetary file.
4)Payment Receipt.
5)Full address and description of the house.
So pls get back to me today so that you can get in touch with my
husband for receiving the payment.
I await your reply ASAP.
Regard and God bless you!!!
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I'm not paying for June as it is almost over. I want to move in July 1st, anyway. So, I will pay $450 for July's rent.

How do you want me to send this payment?




Hello Ushal.
Thanks for the mail.however we are ok with that,so i will like you to send the money through western union money tranfer to my husband today so that i can send the keys and the document to you today so that you can visit the house any time you like...i will advise you to make the payment today bcos i dont want you to loose the home..my will instruct my husband to give you the payment details now...
Have a nice working day..
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Hello Ushall
I received your responce from my lovely wife in the State today,that you are responsible man from Canada and ready to rent our house,thats nice and also as She inform you that,the full address and the rest of the document will be send to you via the Courier,so i need your absolute trust and mentainance of this property,do clean it all the time.
Moreso,I will want you to locate near by WESTERN UNION office in your location for sending the july and august month in advace payment,$900 and once this payment has been received,then a receipt will be issue to you for bonafide occupancy,it will be included the document that you will be received within 2 days of payment,so i will implore you to get it effect today.

Here is the payment receivers details;

Name: Oyedeji Saheed
City: Mushin
State: Lagos
Country: Nigeria
Zip-23401

Amount sent( $900)

Secret Question ( in God )

Answer? i trust

Also get back to me ASAP the payment is transfer with the below details from the Western Union office.

MTCN control number?
Senders Address?
Sender Tel number?

I look forward to hear back from you as soon as you effect the payment for me to instruct her to get you packages send to you immediately.How are you and the family?I hope all is well with you,as well as your work,You are welcome to my house,May Almighty God be with you have a nice working day.hope to read from you now

Thanks.




I am a woman, not a man.
I also told your wife that I will only be paying $450, not $900. I refuse to pay two months up-front. I have been through this with your wife.
I know where my nearest Western Union is & I have completed them form, it just needs to be signed and taken back to the office.
Why is there a different person accepting the money? Why isn't it you, Mr. Fotan Shola?
I have done my part, please do yours.




Thnaks very much for the mail..well am sorry i think you want to pay for two month..am ok with the one month,so i will like you send the $450 to the infomation i gave to you now so that i can instruct my wife to send you the keys and document needed...As i told you before am in west african for crusade.I dont have an information there bcos i dont live there.hope to read from you now.God bless you
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You did not answer my question...

Why is there a different person accepting the money? Why isn't it you, Mr. Fotan Shola?


Hello.
Mrs Ushall has i told you in my last mail that am in west african for crusade,i don't have a driver license and international passport of Nigeria and am not with it here,that is why i want to use our area pastor information Mr Oyedeji.Just try to understand me better.And my wife called me,and she said you ask her why can't we give the house to you free.When you pack in i will know the what to do about that if you realy take good care of the house.so i want you to send the money to the information i gave to you which belong to Mr Oyedeji our area pastor today so that my wife can send the keys and others document to you today.hope to read from you now and God bless you.Moreso i will like you to keep to your worlds.
Fotan



I understand that you said you were in West Africa, but you never mentioned anything about not having a Nigerian passport/drivers license. I assume you have an American passport since you're in Nigeria because you obviously would have needed to travel there. An American passport will allow you to pick up the Western Union payment in Nigeria. You do not need Nigerian documents.

Why can't I send the money to your wife in the States?

Your wife told me that the money wasn't important, so I said why can't I get it for free if the money is not important to you.

You said: "Moreso i will like you to keep to your worlds." My question is, how do I keep to my worlds? This does not make sense.

Please respond quickly.




Hello..
Mrs Ushal i told you that am not with the my driver license with me in west african i left them in the state and in Nigeria here they only cash money with driver license and their national identity card,and i need money here, bcos i don't have any cash at hand for now and as you know am a stranger here i must have a little money in my pocket..Yes i know my wife said so but it is not done like that you have to pay something and that is why am taking 450 from you,if i was to give it out for rent i will take about 1000 but bcos i know you needed the house and you promise to take goods care of it that is why i want to take 450 for the first month from you.Kepping to your words since you promise to take good care of the house that was what i mean and can you send a picture of yourself to my wife.I will like you to go and send the money now and stop asking me questions.
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I will not stop asking questions. This is my hard-earned money that you're taking from me. Do not disrespect me in that way. You have no right to speak to me that way.

I have one last question, is that okay with you?

Do you think that I'm stupid?

Please respond quickly as I would like to get the documents for the apartment as soon as possible.




Hello.
How are you doing today?hope everything is allright.I'm sorry for the late reply,but i dont realy understand what you mean by Do you think that I'm stupid.I will advice you to send the payment as soon as possible so that my wife can send the document out to you today.hope to read from you now..have a nice day
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Mr. Shola,

You have disrespected me by not answering my question. All I want is a simple reply. Do you think that I am stupid?

Oh, you don't understand? Let me clarify.

Do you honestly think that I am stupid enough to fall into this scam? I work too hard to waste my money on a scam.

Why do you do this to innocent people? I sincerely hope that you will be punished for this in the future. I have passed all of your e-mails on to the police & they have traced your IP address & they know exactly where you are located. Watch out for your local police, they're coming for you. They are going to alert me when you have been caught. They told me that you could go to jail for a very long time.

As for me, I don't even live near Nova Scotia, so you should probably work harder on making your stories accurate when trying to scam people. You also said you are in West Afri
missionary work...how dare you bring God into your scam. You're using God to get innocent people to fall into your trap. Shame on you.

Please respond to me as I would like to know why on earth you scam people.

Thank you,

"Ushall Geturz"





NO! NO. I just want you to get back to me with the western union details for me to pick up the money so that my wife can send you the entrance key and other document.hope to read from you now.


LOL , That was the last e-mai, so far, I'll post as soon as he e-mails back
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Good grief. They are obviously morphing their scams, they can't keep you guys straight, woman, man from Canada, etc.
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definitely a scam. No way would I ever send money without first knowing that they actually intend to let me have the house (by showing me the key)

These scammers will stop at nothing to get money!!!
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The funniest part is, I'm nowhere near Nova Scotia, which is where "the apartment is"
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No, actually what I think is funny is that you gave them your real name first (in the first post) and then later gave them a different name & they never caught on.
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No, actually what I think is funny is that you gave them your real name first (in the first post) and then later gave them a different name & they never caught on.

Oh my gosh! I hadn't even realized that!! LOL Whoops!

At least they didn't catch it!
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Good for you for reporting these people to the police. I thought that was so... good when you said "How dare you bring God into your scam ". I hope they find this guy and he does go to jail for a very.... long time.
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How crazy! I got an email like that once when I was looking for an apt. in Albany, i was like no thanks!
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