What would you do if ........

[mustangbee]

OK with the Thread : how much is to much punishment?
It got me thinking. What would you do if your child came
home from school and said he/she was hit by an adult
at school????

I have five children, been on the School Boards,
went to 1000's of meetings. I know for a fact they would
not just sit back and let this happen.

If my child came home and said this.
You would see me on the news!
Right after I bet the crap out of who ever touched my kid.
Yep, both my Parents were Police Officers, but even they could never
stop me, heck they would help!!!!

A Child who grows up being hit, learns it's ok to hit,
OMG, sad, but very true.
Like I said, if someone hurts my children, or Grand Children,
Look for me on the news, I'll be the one fighting the State!

[hle_625]

LMAO! I can just see you on the news now! I would do that same thing that you are describing! I think that it is unacceptable for a teacher to spank your child, I dont care the reasoning! If they need a spanking then they need to call the parents and have them come and pick the kid up from school!

[mustangbee]

Originally Posted by hle_625

LMAO! I can just see you on the news now! I would do that same thing that you are describing! I think that it is unacceptable for a teacher to spank your child, I dont care the reasoning! If they need a spanking then they need to call the parents and have them come and pick the kid up from school!

I can be very nice, just don't pull anything like this, if you do, I'll show you just how strong I can be.
When I was on the School Board, I could get you hired, or see that you got the boot! If this came across our Board it wouldn't be pretty, heads would be flying!
Someone has to stand up for kids, after all they are kids!

[hunniebunnie]

I don't necessarily agree with the notion "A Child who grows up being hit, learns it's ok to hit,...". i got my fair share of whoopings and punishments when i was a kid, from parents as well as teachers (yeah it's legal then and there, but there's rules for that too). but i don't feel a need to hit anyone and i don't find it acceptable for others to even attempt to hit me. my parents always taught me the difference between "punishment" and "unnecessary violence". and when they did punish me, they always told me why and it was never without reason. But even then, i had a case once in kindergarden where my teacher felt it was necessary to punish me and the punishment was over the edge. i came home crying with a bruise on my forehead and chalk on my face and lips. my parents were so mad they cleaned me up and took me to my grandparents while they went to school immediately to chew out the teacher and principal. they picked up my things and took me out of that school that day and found me another school the following week.

With that being said, although i may discipline my children with physical punishment, i don't find it acceptable for adults at school to give physical punishment to my children without my permission (and i wouldn't give permission for something like that). my kid would be taken outta that school immediately and everyone from the mayor, the school district superintendents, principal, teacher, would get a nasty gram from me.

i've been spent summer school sessions in sketchy neighborhoods and have seen fights break out between adults and high school/jr high school kids in the lunchroom. but even then, the adults' responsibility was to restraint, not to hit back.

[browniesmom622]

sorry i cant say on here there could be children looking

[jkat]

It is unacceptable for teachers to spank students.

I grew up in Taiwan for ten years, and I was spanked with bamboo sticks, chop sticks, hangers, etc. by my teachers AND my parents.

After going through the education system in the States, I definitely like it much better here. When I was in Taiwan, kids were forced to respect the teachers out of fear (I was pretty lucky, most of my teachers were awesome).

Here, I respect them because they are respectable. No other reason. If I didn't like them, oh well. Too bad, I'd have to deal with it until I get a new teacher.

It's difficult for me to say whether I'd spank my own kids because I don't have any. However, I do believe kids need to be spanked on their bottoms if worst comes to worst. It's my last resort. But, I will never ever raise my hand to hit somebody else's child. That's just not right.

[jkat]

Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

I don't necessarily agree with the notion "A Child who grows up being hit, learns it's ok to hit,...". i got my fair share of whoopings and punishments when i was a kid, from parents as well as teachers (yeah it's legal then and there, but there's rules for that too). but i don't feel a need to hit anyone and i don't find it acceptable for others to even attempt to hit me. my parents always taught me the difference between "punishment" and "unnecessary violence". and when they did punish me, they always told me why and it was never without reason. But even then, i had a case once in kindergarden where my teacher felt it was necessary to punish me and the punishment was over the edge. i came home crying with a bruise on my forehead and chalk on my face and lips. my parents were so mad they cleaned me up and took me to my grandparents while they went to school immediately to chew out the teacher and principal. they picked up my things and took me out of that school that day and found me another school the following week.

With that being said, although i may discipline my children with physical punishment, i don't find it acceptable for adults at school to give physical punishment to my children without my permission (and i wouldn't give permission for something like that). my kid would be taken outta that school immediately and everyone from the mayor, the school district superintendents, principal, teacher, would get a nasty gram from me.

i've been spent summer school sessions in sketchy neighborhoods and have seen fights break out between adults and high school/jr high school kids in the lunchroom. but even then, the adults' responsibility was to restraint, not to hit back.

I do agree with you. When I was punished by my parents with whatever they had, I KNEW I deserved it. Same with you, even though I went through that, I don't "feel it's okay for me to hit someone else".

Oh HunnieBunnie, it's going to be soo great to mee you at the SF MeetUp next week!

[hunniebunnie]

Originally Posted by jkat

Oh HunnieBunnie, it's going to be soo great to mee you at the SF MeetUp next week!

i know! keeping fingers and paws crossed for a dry day!!!

[yorkieK9trainer]

Okay, I don't believe that: "A Child who grows up being hit, learns it's ok to hit...". Not at all. There are extremes in which a child can be abused and then yeah, sure. But it seems like we're talking about the old addage "It takes a community to raise a child.". What happened? Well, what happened is when spanking was originally proposed into schools, the QUALITY of teachers was much better than today. I'm not saying that "what" we taught was better back then, just our teachers themselves were! It was expensive to become a teacher and the demand wasn't the same then as it is now. Now any nut job can become a teacher! So, do I want a nut job spanking "my" kid? He** no! However, I if I know this teacher (and I like to think that I'd be involved enough in my child's life to know his/her teachers quite well) then SPANK AWAY AS NEEDED! If I'd do it at home and I have some help to raise my child when I can't be there and some form of punishment is agreed on, green light=GO!

I was spanked as a child and ya know what? It sucked, and my parents never took it too far. They were firm, but fair and remembered to PRAISE me when I was right. THAT is most important to rearing a child I think. Being involved, know who is teaching them (other than you) and remember that it takes a community to raise a well rounded child. imo
By the way, I have 0 kids! lol, all mine are the four legged kind. And YES I would allow someone else to correct my dog if I knew that their tactics were like mine and they knew how to be firm but FAIR. (I have the luxury of taking them everywhere I go though so...)

[txshopper73]

I was raised in a home where I would be punished ruthlessly. Have I turned into the violent parent that I was raised with...No. My children at the most may get a pop on the behind once a year. My hubby says I'm a softy.

Now, my daughter went to a country school a couple of years ago. We had to sign a release form at the beginning of the school year that granted or denied corporal punishment by the principal. We moved to the city and they did way with corporal punishment years ago.

When I was in school, there was corporal punishment and kids had respect for their teachers. Now days, it's pure hell in most schools. The kids do not mind, they have zero respect.

Would I allow a principal to paddle my child? I guess it really depends on the circumstance. Paddling is not allowed without a phone call first to the parents and even if a release is signed, the parent has to give their consent.

Anyway, I'm through...okay...ready for my lashings now...

[mustangbee]

I do agree with what you have all said. "A Child growing up being hit learns it's Ok to hit" came from a meeting we went to on Child Abuse.
Yes it is true they learn what we teach them. But we being good parents also teach our children respect. It's the children who don't learn from their parents
who become gang members, or are in trouble with the law.
I was never hit by my parents. But I did go to a school where the Nuns would
take a stick to you if you were bad in any way. Some parents do spank their children, but to have someone else do it is wrong. The schools can take away their Playtime, or a Field Trip, but to hit them I think thats wrong.
I have worked with abused children, we even adopted three of them. If you ask them they would want TV or Video games taken away, instead of being hit.
Not all parents know when to stop, and that's really sad.

[heather_lathrop]

if my kids were EVER hit in school by an adult there would be HELL to pay. I don't care what the reason was for them getting hit. Someone would be getting hurt.

[heather_lathrop]

I forgot to add, that if I was asked to sign a release for a teacher or pronciple to paddle my child. I would deny it. there is no way that I ever want anyone else to physically strike MY child. If they get in trouble at school for something, they should notify me. I can be much scarier than any principle! LOL I just feel more comfortable punishing my children my way. Not allowing it to be done by someone else.

[txshopper73]

NOW, if an adult not myself or my husband hit one of my children, well, let's just say, I won't EVEN go there!

[yorkiepip]

I dont think by being smacked you will be a violent or smacking person, my mum used to hit me and my brothers with her shoe when we were kids. (which we laugh about now) i dont think it has done me any damage, but with that said IMHO I dont think anyone has the right to hit children not even their parents!!