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megansmomma · 10-28-2014, 09:36 AM

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According to news releases, Gov.Cuomo caved first, and then Christie decided to let her leave, also under extreme push back from The White House......

"The White House ripped into the governors of New Jersey and New York, and reportedly excoriated the governors in private telephone calls for instituting a policy which “doesn’t comport with science.Christie stood firm and noted on Sunday that federal officials would soon have to adopt his state’s quarantine policy, but Cuomo soon caved and clarified that asymptomatic individuals believed to have been exposed to Ebola will be allowed to isolate themselves in their own homes.After testing negative for Ebola, Christie’s administration consented to allowing the quarantined nurse to transfer to a facility in her home state of Maine.
The embarrassing turnaround came after Obama chaired a White House meeting on the rules and successfully lobbied Christie’s New York counterpart, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, to relax their quarantine rules – even as Americans grow more concerned about the possibility of a pandemic emergency."

Where did this quote come from? I'm trying to find your source by searching the words in your posted Press Release but it only comes up to Rush Limbaugh and a bunch of Tea Party pages.

Yorkiemom1 · 10-28-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

Where did this quote come from? I'm trying to find your source by searching the words in your posted Press Release but it only comes up to Rush Limbaugh and a bunch of Tea Party pages.

Let me see if I can find it again...it was a news paper....tried to stay away from specific papers, although all the papers had the same story in them...Houston Chronicle had it too....TV stations....I was tyhrilled that Christie did not cave just because Cuomo had....then, wham! within 24 hrs Christie folded........

Yorkiemom1 · 10-28-2014, 10:54 AM

I went back and tried to find the specific source, and decided to just list sources that have all reported the same time line, including the Daily Mail from UK...I will include the quote that is short and sweet from the Daily Mail last.... I have listed only a few of the sources that have reported the sequence of events...
Daily KOS, CNN, HotAir.com, Fox News, New York Times, Houston Chronicle, MSNBC, (this is just a short list because I have dogs to groom and cant sit here all day listing all the sources that have reported this story, including all the major news stations on TV...) and last but not least, the short quote, that is taken from a longer article from the Daily Mail:

"Reports swirled in New Jersey and Washington on Sunday night and Monday morning, suggesting that Christie had backpedaled on his policy, following a similar 180-degree shift from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo."

gemy · 10-28-2014, 11:00 AM

I just want to say that I am so very sorry that the USA is dealing with this.

I hear your frustrations, and I do so hope that this Ebola is just a scare and the right quarantine practices do get put into effect.

Also I think I hear Canada is also working on a vaccine, and donated more many millions to the care of Ebola patients in West Africa.

Cherie6446 · 10-28-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I went back and tried to find the specific source, and decided to just list sources that have all reported the same time line, including the Daily Mail from UK...I will include the quote that is short and sweet from the Daily Mail last.... I have listed only a few of the sources that have reported the sequence of events...
Daily KOS, CNN, HotAir.com, Fox News, New York Times, Houston Chronicle, MSNBC, (this is just a short list because I have dogs to groom and cant sit here all day listing all the sources that have reported this story, including all the major news stations on TV...) and last but not least, the short quote, that is taken from a longer article from the Daily Mail:

"Reports swirled in New Jersey and Washington on Sunday night and Monday morning, suggesting that Christie had backpedaled on his policy, following a similar 180-degree shift from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo."

I don't know how to highlight the words I need but I apologize re the Cuomo/Christie statement - which backed down first. Sorry.

Yorkiemom1 · 10-28-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie6446

I don't know how to highlight the words I need but I apologize re the Cuomo/Christie statement - which backed down first. Sorry.

Not a problem.....everything in this entire story, the CDC, the protocols, definitions, parameters, the politics, the health issues/concerns.....like one of the doctors said, it is all a "continually moving target and that is why the public is "panicked" and do not trust hardly anything that is being said or done by anyone!". It seems it is like the weather here in Texas.....".....give it 15 minutes and it will change"

lynzy420 · 10-28-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Not a problem.....everything in this entire story, the CDC, the protocols, definitions, parameters, the politics, the health issues/concerns.....like one of the doctors said, it is all a "continually moving target and that is why the public is "panicked" and do not trust hardly anything that is being said or done by anyone!". It seems it is like the weather here in Texas.....".....give it 15 minutes and it will change"

haha, or until the next hot tabloid topic comes along....amazing how fast the news takes advantage of their power over the public...we talk about propaganda in other countries, the US is the laughing stock of the world regarding our hysterias and newsreporting...eh, live and learn....they lost me about 2 plagues ago...

lynzy420 · 10-28-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

I saw this on FB this morning. It's a British comedian pretty much making fun of the US vs Britain's news coverage. There's a couple of "bad" words in his monologue so be warned.

The difference between US vs UK Ebola news coverage - Russell Howard's Good News - YouTube

This is really funny where on earth do you get these from? hahahahahahaha

megansmomma · 10-28-2014, 03:29 PM

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This is really funny where on earth do you get these from? hahahahahahaha

Well over on FB there are a lot of funny things running through my newsfeed.

yorkietalkjilly · 10-28-2014, 05:19 PM

Where is the world with "boots on the ground" in West Africa, working to help stop the epidemic there? I know DWB and some of the NGO's have a few international volunteers but is it just mainly the U. S. and U. K. or are there other countries who have large numbers of healthcare workers and military who are actually working there? No wonder our healthcare workers are all so done in when they get back home!

Is this article true - that the US has to be the world's medical insurance policy to get more countries to offer up workers?!?! Seriously?!?! Australia has stopped its workers from going.

State Department plans to bring foreign Ebola patients to U.S. - Washington Times

Ebola outbreak: Australia will not send health workers to west Africa | World news | theguardian.com

Yorkiemom1 · 10-28-2014, 05:41 PM

I expected nothing less....what happened to the "lead from behind" concept? Guess that is for just certain areas, certain people..... Is there anyone on this forum that is from Australia?

yorkietalkjilly · 10-28-2014, 06:03 PM

At this rate, with less and less healthcare workers likely available and 5,000 more needed right now, I hope there is a way to get ahead of the upcoming Ebola cases in West Africa.

Countries are soon going to have to pay/incentivize future healthcare workers to go if their numbers get less and less, the work gets harder and has longer hours and their return home means strict quarantines/stigmatization.

AP News : Top UN Ebola official: new cases poorly tracked

The whole world relies on this one U.S. company to fly Ebola patients - The Washington Post

yorkietalkjilly · 10-28-2014, 06:08 PM

So not one other country in this world can take a private jet, install a metal frame, plastic liner and an air-filtration system so they can medevac their sick healthcare workers home? Their only solution is to cut them off or not send them to start with?

yorkietalkjilly · 10-28-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I expected nothing less....what happened to the "lead from behind" concept? Guess that is for just certain areas, certain people..... Is there anyone on this forum that is from Australia?

At least Australia sent some to start with but why they cannot make their own medevac jet is beyond me. The answer is to just stop sending workers? But just look at how few countries are actually putting boots on the ground, men and women trained to work in hazmat suits, to actually care for those deathly ill people around the clock, when you look up the countries actually working there.

Yorkiemom1 · 10-28-2014, 07:28 PM

I think other countries understand the implication they face, the problems they face, getting involved more and more with this problem. The solution to the problem is finding a vaccine, which the world is working on. There are countries all over the world, trying to develop vaccines to irradicate this disease. We are the only country that is more concern with helping masses of people and out of some sense of compassion, risk exposure of our own population to horrific diseases. We send healthcare workers, we send "boots on the ground", we build hospitals and clinics and set up isolation areas, we send billions of dollars in money, research, medical supplies,financial aid, etc and if all that is not enough, just let us know how much more we can cough up, shake from our money trees, take from our nest eggs....

The United States is the most hated country on the face of the earth, we are the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and we are expected to save the entire world, by countries that hate us the most. Crazy, crazy, crazy..........and so sad. Just tell us what you need and by golly, we will send it post haste, by hook or by crook....just how much more must we be required to deliver, or made to feel like we are "cruel, inhumane, incompassionate" sloths. We have a couple of real allies....our wonderful neighbors to the north-Canada....England, Australia, Israel... think that is about the size of it....but we are expected to heal , clothe, feed, cultivate, and defend the entire rest of the world. Excuse me while I go draw another bucketfull of money from the well out back......

10-28-2014, 11:00 AM	#139
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	I just want to say that I am so very sorry that the USA is dealing with this. I hear your frustrations, and I do so hope that this Ebola is just a scare and the right quarantine practices do get put into effect. Also I think I hear Canada is also working on a vaccine, and donated more many millions to the care of Ebola patients in West Africa. __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

10-28-2014, 05:19 PM	#145
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	Where is the world with "boots on the ground" in West Africa, working to help stop the epidemic there? I know DWB and some of the NGO's have a few international volunteers but is it just mainly the U. S. and U. K. or are there other countries who have large numbers of healthcare workers and military who are actually working there? No wonder our healthcare workers are all so done in when they get back home! Is this article true - that the US has to be the world's medical insurance policy to get more countries to offer up workers?!?! Seriously?!?! Australia has stopped its workers from going. State Department plans to bring foreign Ebola patients to U.S. - Washington Times Ebola outbreak: Australia will not send health workers to west Africa \| World news \| theguardian.com __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

10-28-2014, 06:03 PM	#147
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	At this rate, with less and less healthcare workers likely available and 5,000 more needed right now, I hope there is a way to get ahead of the upcoming Ebola cases in West Africa. Countries are soon going to have to pay/incentivize future healthcare workers to go if their numbers get less and less, the work gets harder and has longer hours and their return home means strict quarantines/stigmatization. AP News : Top UN Ebola official: new cases poorly tracked The whole world relies on this one U.S. company to fly Ebola patients - The Washington Post __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

10-28-2014, 06:08 PM	#148
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	So not one other country in this world can take a private jet, install a metal frame, plastic liner and an air-filtration system so they can medevac their sick healthcare workers home? Their only solution is to cut them off or not send them to start with? __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

10-28-2014, 10:54 AM	#138
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	I went back and tried to find the specific source, and decided to just list sources that have all reported the same time line, including the Daily Mail from UK...I will include the quote that is short and sweet from the Daily Mail last.... I have listed only a few of the sources that have reported the sequence of events... Daily KOS, CNN, HotAir.com, Fox News, New York Times, Houston Chronicle, MSNBC, (this is just a short list because I have dogs to groom and cant sit here all day listing all the sources that have reported this story, including all the major news stations on TV...) and last but not least, the short quote, that is taken from a longer article from the Daily Mail: "Reports swirled in New Jersey and Washington on Sunday night and Monday morning, suggesting that Christie had backpedaled on his policy, following a similar 180-degree shift from New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo."

10-28-2014, 05:41 PM	#146
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	I expected nothing less....what happened to the "lead from behind" concept? Guess that is for just certain areas, certain people..... Is there anyone on this forum that is from Australia?

10-28-2014, 07:28 PM	#150
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	I think other countries understand the implication they face, the problems they face, getting involved more and more with this problem. The solution to the problem is finding a vaccine, which the world is working on. There are countries all over the world, trying to develop vaccines to irradicate this disease. We are the only country that is more concern with helping masses of people and out of some sense of compassion, risk exposure of our own population to horrific diseases. We send healthcare workers, we send "boots on the ground", we build hospitals and clinics and set up isolation areas, we send billions of dollars in money, research, medical supplies,financial aid, etc and if all that is not enough, just let us know how much more we can cough up, shake from our money trees, take from our nest eggs.... The United States is the most hated country on the face of the earth, we are the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and we are expected to save the entire world, by countries that hate us the most. Crazy, crazy, crazy..........and so sad. Just tell us what you need and by golly, we will send it post haste, by hook or by crook....just how much more must we be required to deliver, or made to feel like we are "cruel, inhumane, incompassionate" sloths. We have a couple of real allies....our wonderful neighbors to the north-Canada....England, Australia, Israel... think that is about the size of it....but we are expected to heal , clothe, feed, cultivate, and defend the entire rest of the world. Excuse me while I go draw another bucketfull of money from the well out back......