Update to Bully Note at School

[wendybee]

thats so bad the princable saying that to your boy, of corse he was scared ot wasnt normal what the girl did.
when my youngest was 8 he forgot his lunch box so i went back to the school and as i walked back into the play ground there was this girl kicking my kevin as hard as she could and kev was just standing there worse still was the mother was there as well, by the time i had finished with the mother it was kev and i that got the telling off, well i can asure you im not one to get told by any jumped up teacher that i was wrong when she wasnt doing her job properly, as i told her so and i also stated that if this continues i will be taking the matter further, and please dont talk to me as if im 8 years old, it stopped.
so you continue with getting something done about it and dont let them teachers speak to you asif you are the child, good luck

[Jeniferlee]

In todays day and age you have to take that very serious. Last nights "Seventh Heaven" (a rerun) was about one the school kids threatening the son(simon) by pointing his finger like a gun and pretending to shoot him. Well Simon tells the dad (Pastor), the Pastor contacts the boys parents- they laugh and the boy denies it. A few days later the boy then shoots the Pastor ... What the story line boils down to is that parents and schools need to take these kinds of remarks or actions with more than a "its just kids being kids".
There is an awesome book about media violence by Col. David Grossman "Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill It". I am not sure if it is against the rules but his webiste is www.killology.com
He is an awesome presentor for schools to get to educate the schools/community on the real dangers youth face today. Maybe if more parents took it seriously and paid more attention to their kids actions there wouldn't be so many kids killing other kids, bombing, shootings, etc......
Just my 2 cents for the day......

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by chewysmom

Nicole, you make some great points. The thing is, who is responsible for the kid's behaviour? In this instance, what do the girl's parents have to say? If my son came home with a 2 days suspension my blood would be boiling and I would want to get to the bottom of what happened. I would call the other kid's parents and deal with my son. I know many parents who are just too busy to keep track of what is going on in their kid's lives and the only ones it hurts are the kids. The school needs to take responsibility for what is going on during the school day, but what happens when the child is at home? Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the parent to talk to their kids and make sure that they are on track with their school work, social interactions and emotional health.

I believe that the kid and parents are responsible for their child's behavior. The school is not responsible for his/her behavior, per say, BUT if incidents happen in school, then the school is responsible for the discipline. And you are right by saying that parents are "too busy." It does hurt the child. If the child doesn't get in trouble at home, why should the child behave or respect authority at school when nothing will get done at home! And if I had children and they got in trouble, my blood would boil too!! I'm just tired of parents blaming the teachers. I am glad that the teacher in this case gave a spelling test (I've done the same thing :-). So what I asked, and am still asking (for anyone to answer) is...if the parent doesn't care if the child keeps getting suspended/in trouble, there's no discipline at home, and the school is doing their job of disciplining, and nothing is working....what can we do at school? I'm being serious, not sarcastic . I was on the discipline committee at my school for the past two years. I brought up this question a lot, but never had an answer. That's why I am asking here. Is there anything that administrators can do better discipline the kids? If not, then whose fault is it when the kid winds up in jail?

PS. Just to let you all know...NONE of this is to be taken sarcastically. I really would like help! Thanks!

[orinskye]

well......... from my experience, if a child is repeatedly getting in severe disciplinary problems at school adn the child is not being taken care of at home social services can be called in to look at a case of neglect (again this is EXTREME and i have only seen it happen once).

[chewysmom]

Nicole
I don't think anyone reading your post would think sarcasm! It really is a dilema and until parents and the kids take full responsibility, I don't know what can be done. There are no repercussions and even if a child is expelled, where will they go? To another school to start all over again with the bad behavior?

I DEFINITELY DON'T want to detract from the awful situation Joran was put into and how scared he must have felt but can you imagine the emotional state of this young girl who wrote the note. I almost pity her. If the adults in charge of her can't even take something like this seriously, what chance does she have of getting help and turning her behaviour around.

[Jeniferlee]

Originally Posted by chewysmom

I DEFINITELY DON'T want to detract from the awful situation Joran was put into and how scared he must have felt but can you imagine the emotional state of this young girl who wrote the note. I almost pity her. If the adults in charge of her can't even take something like this seriously, what chance does she have of getting help and turning her behaviour around.

She doesn't and that is the sad thing.... In MI social services will not step in until there is someone almost killed or they have been called at least 10 times on the same person or household. It is sad what I see the state lets parents do to there kids and sometimes via versa. But with budget cuts, guess who gets the short end of the stick!
If I was rich I would have a big house full of unwanted puppies and kids!