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yorkieusa · 01-05-2006, 07:22 AM

You should have immediately taken the note to the police department. You should speak of it to as few people as possible in your town and school while the investigation goes on.

sneri13 · 01-05-2006, 07:27 AM

I am so sorry that you and your family have to go through this. I can not believe that your school takes these matters so lightly. Especially in this day and age. I would go to the police, the principle, the superintendent, I would also contact the media if the school thinks that this is "really" nothing. My son is also in the 7th grade and his jr. high has a zero tolerance program. They would investigate the situation and the child responsible would permanently be removed from the school and his parents required to go to counseling with him/her. Try to explain how important it is to your son that if he knows who is responsible for writing this note he must say something. How about talking to his friends parents, maybe he said something to one of his friends about the note and they know who it is?

Latuya · 01-05-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by I luv my pups

Wow no lockers huh... Do they have to carry all their books around all day?? That would be heavy for them to lug around. The principal told me "don't worry, i have seen notes before and nothing every happens" I was so mad I told her well I don't want my son to be the 1st!!
I just wish they were taking it more serious.

Yes they have to carry their books along with them. It's so sad to see these little middle school kids lugging around these big backpacks full of books. My poor Val has one more year and I hope she grows some because she is too tiny to carry all those books.

minniemn · 01-05-2006, 08:16 AM

I have had a similar situation in our school- and the principal "filed" the letter of threat, in a file that went missing... but I also had a copy, and kept notes on what I did, who I talked to, what happened to the note ect.

I ended up calling PACER, they have free legal advice, and are advocates for children in schools.

Funny, the day after I talked with the principal once again to find out if they found the missing "file".. he said they had not... I told him that I contacted PACER, and gave them all the information, and to expect a call from them.

Bam- just like that, the file was found, the kid was transfered out of that school (he had many offenses) amazing how that worked.

You can do a search on PACER they are all over.... it helped me to have them on my side... well it helped my son I should say.

Ever since then, I have always had great cooperation with the school...

Good luck, I am sorry this happened to your son- I can imagine how scary this is for all of you... please get it written down somewhere, and have you and the principal sign a note stating that if any harm is done to your child during the school year, you will be holding the principal responsible... if he doesn't sign it.. then tell you that obviously he feels that there is a problem here, and what are his plans to correct the situation, have that written down and signed... make sure you (with the first letter) sign and date it, and state that you read this to the principal and he refuses to sign it, on this date at such and such time... and have the principal sign that part (that he refuses to sign the original note) maybe it is over the top, but there is a HUGE responsibility on the principal to ensure that the school is a SAFE place for EVERYONE... it is his JOB and if s/he isn't able to make school a safe enviornment for all, s/he needs to find a new job.

This has to be taken seriously- we (in our small neighborhood) recently had 4 student boys put a bomb in this girls family van because they were upset at her for being a tease... fortunatly no one was hurt, (the van wasnt' even recogonizable though) the family moved the girl out in the middle of the night after that... this was not a do it yourself bomb they found out how to do on the net... we have NEVER had anything close to this happen in our neighborhood and it shook us all up (including our houses) our neighborhood is very quiet, I have not even seen a cop around in a long time, because nothing happens around here. The girl did go to the principal before this incident and let the principal know the boys were threatening her... nothing happened to the boys for the threats... except for now, they are in jail. (because of the bombing)

hle_625 · 01-05-2006, 08:49 AM

I can't believe this is not being taken seriously, I have a little sister that is 13 and if something like this ever happened to her I would make sure (and so would my parents) that the police were contacted. These days I cant believe that the school is just ignoring this matter. If it were me I would not let my child go to school until this matter was taken care of. Who ever this child is that is writing these notes needs some help bc I dont think that a 12 year old child should be talking and making threats like this.

I am so sorry that your family is going through this and I can imagine how hard it must be. You definetly need to contact the police bc this is a serious matter. That principal needs to be fired!!!!

I luv my pups · 01-06-2006, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bentley&BitsysMom

Also meant to add that your boys are precious!!! I love the last pic where they are together and have their doggy shirts on! Very sweet

Hope you have a good day at work and a peace in your heart that passes all your understanding

Thank you so much!!! They Love those shirts!! They got those shirts because our dog Baxter is a pekenese Japinese Chin. So Terrell got the Peke and Joran got the other one. They wanted me to get the Yorkie one...

Thanks for all your prayers!! I will keep you all updated!!

I luv my pups · 01-06-2006, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bkessler

Wow.. Your boys are adorable..What sweeties.. Anyway, I agree that you should go to the school board or police for this case.. No child should have to be bullied like that.. its horrible.. Does Joran's school have a bullying program... As a PE/Health teacher in the inner city, I make sure to cover the topic of Bullying... I think you should talk to his health/PE teacher and see if they cover that topic.. If not, I can recoomend some websites I use with my students about bullying.. Good luck

I haven't heard of any programs like that but I will check into it, that is a good idea!! I would love to check out the websites, if you would like to email them to me my email is frmme2u@srt.com. Thank you!!

I luv my pups · 01-06-2006, 03:59 AM

Thanks everyone for all your posts, I don't have time right now to reply to all have to work in a little bit and here i sit again! There is no update at this time but I am going to take that note to the police. I will keep everyone updated as I hear. I haven't heard anything from the school. Joran stayed home yesterday and went over to my moms house, he was so tired because he couldn't sleep the night before and was so tired. The teacher called me at home (I was at work) and left a message about picking up his homework. Nothing about the note or why did Joran stay home??? Hmmm I just don't know what to think. Maybe they are doing more than they say they are just trying to make it so I don't worry... I am not sure what is going on.
Joran still is saying he isn't sure who wrote this note. I hope that sometime soon if he knows he will tell me.
Well I better get ready to go but as soon as I hear something I will let you all know. Thanks for all being there for us and for all the concern and prayers!!

Melissa

teri88 · 01-06-2006, 05:55 PM

My son Kevin was always popular and happy in school. Then suddenly in 4th grade "they" decided he was the kid to be picked on. He's 15 now and has not gotten over it. His self confidance completly disappeared. It broke my heart. But I want you to know that your son has been threatened and bullied, both of which are illeagle in every state in this country. Let the school know that if you do not get this resolved you will bring charges against the school. They have an OBLIGATION to protect Joran while he is at school. Don't take no for an answer. In the mean time, I found with my son, he hated to talk about it because it embarassed him. I tried getting him involved in some new activities to build a new friend base. It is so hard when you are the parent and know what a great kid he is to see that others don't see that same kid. Best of luck with this awful situation.

01-05-2006, 07:22 AM	#31
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	You should have immediately taken the note to the police department. You should speak of it to as few people as possible in your town and school while the investigation goes on. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

01-05-2006, 07:27 AM	#32
sneri13 Luv My Spoiled Babies Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,065	I am so sorry that you and your family have to go through this. I can not believe that your school takes these matters so lightly. Especially in this day and age. I would go to the police, the principle, the superintendent, I would also contact the media if the school thinks that this is "really" nothing. My son is also in the 7th grade and his jr. high has a zero tolerance program. They would investigate the situation and the child responsible would permanently be removed from the school and his parents required to go to counseling with him/her. Try to explain how important it is to your son that if he knows who is responsible for writing this note he must say something. How about talking to his friends parents, maybe he said something to one of his friends about the note and they know who it is? __________________ Susan Mac Mellie & Manny Until we meet again at Rainbow Bridge

01-05-2006, 08:49 AM	#35
hle_625 Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,637	I can't believe this is not being taken seriously, I have a little sister that is 13 and if something like this ever happened to her I would make sure (and so would my parents) that the police were contacted. These days I cant believe that the school is just ignoring this matter. If it were me I would not let my child go to school until this matter was taken care of. Who ever this child is that is writing these notes needs some help bc I dont think that a 12 year old child should be talking and making threats like this. I am so sorry that your family is going through this and I can imagine how hard it must be. You definetly need to contact the police bc this is a serious matter. That principal needs to be fired!!!! __________________ Heather, Chloe Lynn and Daisy May

01-06-2006, 03:59 AM	#38
I luv my pups YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minot, ND Posts: 425	Thank You Thanks everyone for all your posts, I don't have time right now to reply to all have to work in a little bit and here i sit again! There is no update at this time but I am going to take that note to the police. I will keep everyone updated as I hear. I haven't heard anything from the school. Joran stayed home yesterday and went over to my moms house, he was so tired because he couldn't sleep the night before and was so tired. The teacher called me at home (I was at work) and left a message about picking up his homework. Nothing about the note or why did Joran stay home??? Hmmm I just don't know what to think. Maybe they are doing more than they say they are just trying to make it so I don't worry... I am not sure what is going on. Joran still is saying he isn't sure who wrote this note. I hope that sometime soon if he knows he will tell me. Well I better get ready to go but as soon as I hear something I will let you all know. Thanks for all being there for us and for all the concern and prayers!! Melissa

01-06-2006, 05:55 PM	#39
teri88 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 4,021	My son Kevin was always popular and happy in school. Then suddenly in 4th grade "they" decided he was the kid to be picked on. He's 15 now and has not gotten over it. His self confidance completly disappeared. It broke my heart. But I want you to know that your son has been threatened and bullied, both of which are illeagle in every state in this country. Let the school know that if you do not get this resolved you will bring charges against the school. They have an OBLIGATION to protect Joran while he is at school. Don't take no for an answer. In the mean time, I found with my son, he hated to talk about it because it embarassed him. I tried getting him involved in some new activities to build a new friend base. It is so hard when you are the parent and know what a great kid he is to see that others don't see that same kid. Best of luck with this awful situation. __________________ Teri Owned by and completely devoted to Tucker... Maddie, we will always love you *Bandit, you are always in my heart* Proud Member SSLS

01-05-2006, 08:16 AM	#34
minniemn YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 364	I have had a similar situation in our school- and the principal "filed" the letter of threat, in a file that went missing... but I also had a copy, and kept notes on what I did, who I talked to, what happened to the note ect. I ended up calling PACER, they have free legal advice, and are advocates for children in schools. Funny, the day after I talked with the principal once again to find out if they found the missing "file".. he said they had not... I told him that I contacted PACER, and gave them all the information, and to expect a call from them. Bam- just like that, the file was found, the kid was transfered out of that school (he had many offenses) amazing how that worked. You can do a search on PACER they are all over.... it helped me to have them on my side... well it helped my son I should say. Ever since then, I have always had great cooperation with the school... Good luck, I am sorry this happened to your son- I can imagine how scary this is for all of you... please get it written down somewhere, and have you and the principal sign a note stating that if any harm is done to your child during the school year, you will be holding the principal responsible... if he doesn't sign it.. then tell you that obviously he feels that there is a problem here, and what are his plans to correct the situation, have that written down and signed... make sure you (with the first letter) sign and date it, and state that you read this to the principal and he refuses to sign it, on this date at such and such time... and have the principal sign that part (that he refuses to sign the original note) maybe it is over the top, but there is a HUGE responsibility on the principal to ensure that the school is a SAFE place for EVERYONE... it is his JOB and if s/he isn't able to make school a safe enviornment for all, s/he needs to find a new job. This has to be taken seriously- we (in our small neighborhood) recently had 4 student boys put a bomb in this girls family van because they were upset at her for being a tease... fortunatly no one was hurt, (the van wasnt' even recogonizable though) the family moved the girl out in the middle of the night after that... this was not a do it yourself bomb they found out how to do on the net... we have NEVER had anything close to this happen in our neighborhood and it shook us all up (including our houses) our neighborhood is very quiet, I have not even seen a cop around in a long time, because nothing happens around here. The girl did go to the principal before this incident and let the principal know the boys were threatening her... nothing happened to the boys for the threats... except for now, they are in jail. (because of the bombing)