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livingdustmops · 12-30-2005, 09:03 AM

I am posting this again so people understand they do have some avenue's with this kind of treatment. Many rescue groups across the country and state share this kind of behavior with other rescue groups and each group keeps a "do not adopt to" file.

I would also tell the rescue group what they did so they could pass the word on these people so any other rescue group would have their names blocked also. Your name would not be involved and you will be saving another animal from this same kind of fate.

Yorkie Mum · 12-30-2005, 09:09 AM

Call the rescue she came from and tell them what happened.
Where I am the cat rescue after it places a cat will come back and take it if they feel it is in harms way.

Joy

chachi · 12-30-2005, 09:14 AM

I would notify the rescue too.

Zeus' Mom · 12-30-2005, 09:22 AM

I completely understand your anger and frustration as I myself got very angry reading that!! I know you are trying to be a good friend, but being around people like that would drive me CRAZY!!

mustangbee · 12-30-2005, 09:31 AM

Sad, so very sad.

JHurtt · 12-30-2005, 09:35 AM

I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this! I can't imagine being friends with people who would do such terrible things to animals and then be expected to sit back and watch them bring more innocent beings into their homes knowing what their fate will be once they have worn out their welcome. I will pray that you find guidance for this situation and definitely peace of mind. Take care!

JCarlson2004 · 12-30-2005, 09:36 AM

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What a jerk! That makes me angry, too. I don't know how things go in New York, but I know that animal abandonment is a punishable crime, here in PA. Also, I know that most shelters make the new owner sign papers assuring that they will not abandon the animal, and will return it to the shelter if for any reason, they cannot take care of it. If that is how things work up there, then this guy could be in for some hefty fines. Maybe this isn't something you feel is right to do, but how about contacting the shelter, and asking them about their policies? I know if it was through the Humane Society, they would be happy to do a little checkup on this jerk.
Regardless, you are so right. He should learn from the past that he is just not able to take care of animals the way he should. And as for the $1000 he lost... GOOD (except for the fact that he just contributed to a puppy mill...bad) Serves the guy right!

I am almost positive that the shelter has that same policy ... where you must return the animal if you no longer want it. But Charley and Sandra said that if they were ever contacted, they would say the cat got out accidentally. There's no real "proof" other then hear-say.

Zeus' Mom · 12-30-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I am almost positive that the shelter has that same policy ... where you must return the animal if you no longer want it. But Charley and Sandra said that if they were ever contacted, they would say the cat got out accidentally. There's no real "proof" other then hear-say.

Jennifer, stop, don't tell me anymore! I am getting angrier and angrier!!

Kidding you can keep posting, but I am not kidding about the angry part!!!

JCarlson2004 · 12-30-2005, 09:40 AM

Not only did they get rid of the cat and return the puppy, but they've had other pets and got rid of them too! They had an ADORABLE little Chinchilla and they gave it back to the pet store after 1-2 months. They had 2 snakes which died. They had pet mice which they let lose on the streets after they got bored with them.

It is mostly Charley that wants all these pets and then wants to get rid of them. Sandra really liked the cat and was upset when Charley got rid of it but she's too weak to stand up to him. She also did NOT want to get a dog in the first place but whatever Charley wants, Charley gets. He's such a bully.

The only pet they ever kept LONG term is this bird/parrot named Choco. They actually treat him very good. Charley just bought a brand new $350 cage for him. But that still doesn't redeem him in my eyes.

livingdustmops · 12-30-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I am almost positive that the shelter has that same policy ... where you must return the animal if you no longer want it. But Charley and Sandra said that if they were ever contacted, they would say the cat got out accidentally. There's no real "proof" other then hear-say.

Hey, in the rescue world we listen to hear-say and I know other breed specific rescue's also listen to hear-say. I am not saying this is totally right but we are not going to take a chance that it could happen again.

JCarlson2004 · 12-30-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I would also tell the rescue group what they did so they could pass the word on these people so any other rescue group would have their names blocked also. Your name would not be involved and you will be saving another animal from this same kind of fate.

I agree. I'm not sure which particular rescue group they used (I believe it's one from Mahattan) but I can probably find out. But even if I do that (which I will), they can still get a cat from someone else ... from any vet's office for like $35 or from a different shelter that isn't a RESCUE. I know most rescues are really picky as to who they allow to adopt their animals. But shelters are so over-crowded and sometimes tend to allow people to adopt their pets because they need more space for other animals. It's so heartbreaking and sad. Also, it's so easy to get a cat because there is such an over-population of them.

livingdustmops · 12-30-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I agree. I'm not sure which particular rescue group they used (I believe it's one from Mahattan) but I can probably find out. But even if I do that (which I will), they can still get a cat from someone else ... from a vet's office for like $35 or from a different shelter that isn't a RESCUE. It's so easy to get a cat because there is such an over-population of them.

I know, but I think it will help you to know you have tried.

JCarlson2004 · 12-30-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

I know, but I think it will help you to know you have tried.

You're right. It's such a powerless feeling because I KNOW in my heart that these are 2 people who should NEVER be allowed to own any animal. They don't take the responsibility seriously and they do not view it as a LIFETIME commitment they way you and I do. They can barely take care of themselves - let alone a defenseless innocent animal.

livingdustmops · 12-30-2005, 10:08 AM

Jennifer, how comfortable would you be to tell them that your feelings are about your soul and that you cannot continue with this relationship if they continue to do what they do? You view this as animal abuse (same as child abuse in my mind but I never had children) and then tell them that you will start reporting them as you can not allow this to continue. I would still report them to the rescue as they will protect your name but you could go on record with your "friends". This will be a tough thing for you to do and it will be very difficult for you but I know we as a nation must start speaking up for the animals. I have made my decision that the dogs I rescued took priority over an human's feelings. It was a choice I had to make. I have even turned my niece down for a dog because she just was not responsible enough. It is always tough and I do my darnest to try and sugar coat the truth but in the end I know I did what was right for the dog. Many times even on YT I have to bite my tongue because of situations I see on people being ignorant on dogs. At least I think if people are coming to YT they are willing to listen and they didn't get these little Yorkies as an accessory. Even if they did maybe, just maybe they will learn that these creatures, love, hurt and have feelings.

Yorkieluv · 12-30-2005, 10:37 AM

Wow...They sound like they have no regard for animals at all. They're obviously in love with the idea of owning a pet, but they obviously don't seem responsible enough or patient enough to care for any kind of furbaby. It's too bad that you're put in this position where you feel like you have to be loyal to your friend, but you're doing the right thing by telling her what you think...I can tell that you're not afraid to tell her what you think, and that's great! She needs to hear the truth even though she's not well. This Charley guy needs to not make important decisions like this so flippantly!

12-30-2005, 09:03 AM	#16
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	I am posting this again so people understand they do have some avenue's with this kind of treatment. Many rescue groups across the country and state share this kind of behavior with other rescue groups and each group keeps a "do not adopt to" file. I would also tell the rescue group what they did so they could pass the word on these people so any other rescue group would have their names blocked also. Your name would not be involved and you will be saving another animal from this same kind of fate. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

12-30-2005, 09:14 AM	#18
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I would notify the rescue too. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

12-30-2005, 09:22 AM	#19
Zeus' Mom Enja's Mom too! Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,765	I completely understand your anger and frustration as I myself got very angry reading that!! I know you are trying to be a good friend, but being around people like that would drive me CRAZY!! __________________ Farrah, Zeus, Enja & Riley

12-30-2005, 09:31 AM	#20
mustangbee Donating YT 9000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Carolina :) Posts: 10,616	Sad, so very sad. __________________ Friends are God's way of apologizing for our relatives. "Love & Support Our YT Members" Gina & Princess Member of the SSLS

12-30-2005, 09:35 AM	#21
JHurtt Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 319	I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this! I can't imagine being friends with people who would do such terrible things to animals and then be expected to sit back and watch them bring more innocent beings into their homes knowing what their fate will be once they have worn out their welcome. I will pray that you find guidance for this situation and definitely peace of mind. Take care! __________________ Jen and the Bloomin' Biewers Gang

12-30-2005, 09:09 AM	#17
Yorkie Mum YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere land Posts: 364	Call the rescue she came from and tell them what happened. Where I am the cat rescue after it places a cat will come back and take it if they feel it is in harms way. Joy

12-30-2005, 09:40 AM	#24
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,287	Not only did they get rid of the cat and return the puppy, but they've had other pets and got rid of them too! They had an ADORABLE little Chinchilla and they gave it back to the pet store after 1-2 months. They had 2 snakes which died. They had pet mice which they let lose on the streets after they got bored with them. It is mostly Charley that wants all these pets and then wants to get rid of them. Sandra really liked the cat and was upset when Charley got rid of it but she's too weak to stand up to him. She also did NOT want to get a dog in the first place but whatever Charley wants, Charley gets. He's such a bully. The only pet they ever kept LONG term is this bird/parrot named Choco. They actually treat him very good. Charley just bought a brand new $350 cage for him. But that still doesn't redeem him in my eyes. __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

12-30-2005, 10:08 AM	#29
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Jennifer, how comfortable would you be to tell them that your feelings are about your soul and that you cannot continue with this relationship if they continue to do what they do? You view this as animal abuse (same as child abuse in my mind but I never had children) and then tell them that you will start reporting them as you can not allow this to continue. I would still report them to the rescue as they will protect your name but you could go on record with your "friends". This will be a tough thing for you to do and it will be very difficult for you but I know we as a nation must start speaking up for the animals. I have made my decision that the dogs I rescued took priority over an human's feelings. It was a choice I had to make. I have even turned my niece down for a dog because she just was not responsible enough. It is always tough and I do my darnest to try and sugar coat the truth but in the end I know I did what was right for the dog. Many times even on YT I have to bite my tongue because of situations I see on people being ignorant on dogs. At least I think if people are coming to YT they are willing to listen and they didn't get these little Yorkies as an accessory. Even if they did maybe, just maybe they will learn that these creatures, love, hurt and have feelings. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

12-30-2005, 10:37 AM	#30
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Wow...They sound like they have no regard for animals at all. They're obviously in love with the idea of owning a pet, but they obviously don't seem responsible enough or patient enough to care for any kind of furbaby. It's too bad that you're put in this position where you feel like you have to be loyal to your friend, but you're doing the right thing by telling her what you think...I can tell that you're not afraid to tell her what you think, and that's great! She needs to hear the truth even though she's not well. This Charley guy needs to not make important decisions like this so flippantly! __________________ Miko 's his Mommy