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Old 05-01-2013, 05:21 AM   #301
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Yeah, I've never been sure which pictures she deleted, did she delete any after Travis was dead? I doubt if she would have confessed if they didn't have the pictures, remember she had a great excuse for the bloody hand print. She had been cleaning months earlier and cut her hand on a glass.

On a side note, I read that OJ, Jodi, and Amanda Knox (the girl accused of murder in Italy) all share a July 9, birthday. Weird or what?
Yes, she deleted a bunch of naked pics of both her and Travis, and all of the 'accidental' pics that happened during the murder. Which is SO interesting bc she did during a time when she was in such a 'fog' that she can't remember anything...during a time when her brain was supposed to be in fight or flight...not performing an executive function where deleting each pics took 5 individual step. Uh huh. Right, Jodi. FOG.
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Yes, she deleted a bunch of naked pics of both her and Travis, and all of the 'accidental' pics that happened during the murder. Which is SO interesting bc she did during a time when she was in such a 'fog' that she can't remember anything...during a time when her brain was supposed to be in fight or flight...not performing an executive function where deleting each pics took 5 individual step. Uh huh. Right, Jodi. FOG.
Thanks, for explaining that, I know Juan was saying she deleted pictures, but I was wondering if Travis might have done it before the shower started; it just wasn't clear to me. That's such a goood point, I hope he makes it clear to the jury.


How about closing lines, anyone, I want to say. Travis called Jodi a pathological liar, he said she was "evil" and the worst thing that ever happened to him, is this abusive or truthful?
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"If the lies don't fit, you must convict."

(anyone get the reference?)
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"If the lies don't fit, you must convict."

(anyone get the reference?)
hahaha...if he says that I will crack up
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hahaha...if he says that I will crack up
Hee, you got it !

I'm watching him today....pretty impressive. I like that he's not talking (ranting) in just 1 gear today. He's modulating his tone/voice and it WORKS so nicely for him!
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I do have Juan M. on and he's got a memory like a steel trap. I know he's got notes but he rarely needs to look at them and he seems to remember everything. No one knows this case as well as he does. Love the way he was pointing out earlier that Jodi was just as Mormon as Travis and she went to classes, she could read and knew about what she should do and not do, can't keep blaming others for what she says she didn't know, etc., that she has to accept responsibility for her own soul and actions. And he's doing this whole case entirely himself in front of the jury. He's probably going to be one tired puppy when this trial is over.
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If JM isn't truly telling of what happened to Travis Alexander during the killing, why is Jodi Arias crying? You'd think she would be angry at this man jabbering all of those lies about what happened.
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Oh my gosh! I thought the same thing - his memory is incredible! Even with notes I would not be able to stay on track like he does!! He must be brilliant!
It should be interesting/miserably boring to hear Murmi close....I'm dreading that! I pray the jury is 'getting it'!
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And why do Jodi's attorneys not tell her to stop smirking and making bad faces?? That seems pretty elementary to me - the jury is watching her ...and I thought it looked like she was coloring again...?
Oh, brother....this needs to end soon!!
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If JM isn't truly telling of what happened to Travis Alexander during the killing, why is Jodi Arias crying? You'd think she would be angry at this man jabbering all of those lies about what happened.
Yes, she's crying and hiding her face, that would tell me, he's telling the story of what happened, if it were a lie, it seems like she would be more outraged.
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Yes, she's crying and hiding her face, that would tell me, he's telling the story of what happened, if it were a lie, it seems like she would be more outraged.
That's what I thought. Why would you cry over a series of untruths? You'd get mad! Self-righteous at that guy telling lies.

I didn't know she had said that about hurting her finger during the murder - heard that for the first time today. That and no trail of blood anywhere but right where the crime happened. No blood anywhere but there - she DID clean up well before she did anything else like wash the clothes. And the deleted photos - JM brought out she certainly had the presence of mind to selectively go through the steps of deleting only those photos that could affect her adversely!!! Damning - that! Fog my behind! And all she can remember is what helps her narrative. She's not nearly as smart as she thinks or she would have thrown in some of the bad stuff, too.
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Oh my gosh! I thought the same thing - his memory is incredible! Even with notes I would not be able to stay on track like he does!! He must be brilliant!
It should be interesting/miserably boring to hear Murmi close....I'm dreading that! I pray the jury is 'getting it'!
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And why do Jodi's attorneys not tell her to stop smirking and making bad faces?? That seems pretty elementary to me - the jury is watching her ...and I thought it looked like she was coloring again...?
Oh, brother....this needs to end soon!!
Didn't you see what Willmot did? When Juan made the comment about Alyce and her mind reading, Willmot rolled her eyes. She certainly would not be the one to counsel Jodi about appropriate behavior in court....not to mention that I believe she called the prosecutor's expert witness a bitch.
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I thought Juan did an awesome job putting all the pieces together for the jury so it made sense. I fear there' s one dummy on this jury,

I have no intention of watchin Wilmott's lies today. Does anyone know if Juan gets a rebuttal after Wilmott's closing statement?

Anyone have any thoughts on how long the jury will take to reach a verdict? My guess will be no death sentence and Tuesday they will return.
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I thought Nurmi the Wurmi was doing closing. I am not planning on watching. Juan was awesome.
I will be disappointed if they don't give her death. He drew the complete picture for them. Did you know that there are three women on death row in AZ and he put one there?

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I just heard that Juan does get a rebuttal after the defense- so that's good that the last the jury will hear before deliberating is Juan. Although, I am NOT expecting much from Murmi today - I just don't believe his heart is in defending Jodi....He seems to have checked out!
I saw some guy, that's a friend of Jodi's, (I'm shocked she has friends!!??) that visits her in jail and Wed. Night he said Jodi was fully believing she would get off and get out of jail...? But last night, one of the news commentators said that was why Jodi cried yesterday, it's just hitting her that she may be found guilty!!
It will be interesting to see how long it takes the jury, and I'm afraid you are right.....there will most likely be at least one idiot on the jury that might believe Jodi - but let's pray not!! I think Juan will leave the jury with a clear picture that will make it hard to ignore that she DID plan this murder.....
As I mentioned earlier, I don't think Murmi is a strong enough attorney to make much of an impact today....I'm expecting him to lull us to sleep! I know Charlie will be asleep in my lap :-) haha
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I thought that "horde of skateboarders with a screwdriver" part was such a roundhouse of hard sarcasm into her web of lies by Juan. That put the cherry on the top of it all to show the jury how far this woman will go in making it up as she goes along - that the kids on 'boards turned her license upside down - not she. Driving home that point that with Jodi, it's always somebody else's fault when something happens in her life, even when she has to reach into the land of Oz to come up with an explanation. Skateboarders with a screwdriver! Priceless.
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