Is anyone else SICK & TIRED of MEANIES on YT?

[Islandloverr]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

BTW~I am one of those people that have been a shoulder to turn to when one is needed. I've offered tons of private advice both in PM and by phone. I'm a strong supporter of rescue and I'm there when others need someone for help. It is when all the positive members offer advice and their experience that make YT a great learning place. It's too bad that it is not better appreciated.

Its BECAUSE of the hundreds of others that are well mannered that I'm STILL here. Trust me it is greatly appreciated. Everyone feels like we were highlighting all the negatives about YT....that is definately not the case. I'm always thanking people for their time & advice. & trust me Ill be the 1st to say YT is amazing! But when we see somethings wrong we shouldn't keep our mouths shut about it. Like when these "1 post" breeders want to come on here & sell they're puppies....I LOVE it when y'all tell them what's what & scare them off!
because that's the right thing to do. Just like adressing the "rudeness" or "whiney-ness" on this forum.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sharly4

So you did mean me?

LOL...no, she DIDN'T mean you. "The general you" means it she was making a general statement. Same as if someone says, "in general" or "generally speaking." Kind of like saying y'all.

[PANAMA69]

I'm sorry you feel this way, I try not to be rude with people because I don't find the need to be, if they will not listen when you try to get your point cross on a well manner, I think they will listen less if you are rude to them, they get all defensive and put their guard up, and his twice hard to have them listen to you. I also understand is about the dog, but the bottom line who own these dogs? people, they make the ultimate decision on their pets life, unless someone call animal control on them. On the other hand, some people are certain way and they are not going or want to change, that is how probably they been treated and/or brought up, or circumstance in their life make them that way, they honestly don't know how; so you have to learn to tolerate them, I guess
I have respect here for some good old members, because they will do what ever it take to help somebody and/ or a furbaby, they are just good heart it people, and that is why I decided to stay, through the years I have make good quality friends in here, few but awesome people, and also looking forward to make new friends, because any newbie here have potential to become a" good old member", jmho
See my signature, who ever you feed the most, that will dominate, the foul side or the blessed side is a choice. Hugs and puppy kisses Greta

[Ringo1]

YT is an AWESOME forum with so many knowledgeable members. No, you will not always like the advice you get or the manner in which it is delivered. Just like every other internet forum. But, you WILL get an answer to your question and several different perspectives. That is why YT is such a great forum.

Yes, when you are new . . . it does take a while to figure out that most everyone is well meaning. And it takes a while to get a handle on everyone's internet personality.

Once you have been here with a dog in need (as I have) ~ and have seen the overwhelming support that is available . . . you will see with new eyes.

I promise.

[cally930]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

I can't speak for anyone else. But for me the answer is "most likely, yes". The question becomes, would you take it the same way? So much is lost with just text. Tone, inflection, body language...

No matter what side of any issue or discussion you come down on, someone with opposing views is going to consider what you say either: harsh, mean or just plain stupid. Same thing in real life. It really comes down to their filters and what they are getting from what you say. I can't control that, you can't control it.

Also sometimes, people come on and say something that makes people want to just smack their (own) heads against the desk. I've seen some of the more experienced people on here show what I consider to be remarkable restraint. They keep in mind that other people will come afterwards and hopefully gain something from their insight. They also know that some of those same people who fight and whine when they don't like the answers given are often some of the same people who come running back as soon as they run in to a problem that could have been avoided. Growing up, my mother and grandmother used to say that part of their job was seeing around corners for me that I wasn't even aware were coming up. It drove me nuts at the time, but now that I have kids, I understand.

And then there are just some things that absolutely require outrage. Whether you agree with their take or depth of feeling on it or not, it's not being true to themselves or beliefs to let some things slide (puppy mills, breeders who haven't bothered to do things right and then come on here in a last minute panic, etc.) In those cases, sitting back and watching people pat themselves on the back is just not an option.

Some people need things sugar coated before they will listen. Others need a strong dose of reality. No thread is going to be all sunshine and lollipops. Take what you want from them, ignore what you don't.

I totally agree!

[Sharly4]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

LOL...no, she DIDN'T mean you. "The general you" means it she was making a general statement. Same as if someone says, "in general" or "generally speaking." Kind of like saying y'all.

Oh my gosh! I'm telling you! Hahaha I think there's something in my coffee! When my dad said don't take polish jokes to heart he wasn't kidding! I feel like I AM one right now! Hahahahaha

[Sharly4]

Originally Posted by PANAMA69

I'm sorry you feel this way, I try not to be rude with people because I don't find the need to be, if they will not listen when you try to get your point cross on a well manner, I think they will listen less if you are rude to them, they get all defensive and put their guard up, and his twice hard to have them listen to you. I also understand is about the dog, but the bottom line who own these dogs? people, they make the ultimate decision on their pets life, unless someone call animal control on them. On the other hand, some people are certain way and they are not going or want to change, that is how probably they been treated and/or brought up, or circumstance in their life make them that way, they honestly don't know how; so you have to learn to tolerate them, I guess
I have respect here for some good old members, because they will do what ever it take to help somebody and/ or a furbaby, they are just good heart it people, and that is why I decided to stay, through the years I have make good quality friends in here, few but awesome people, and also looking forward to make new friends, because any newbie here have potential to become a" good old member", jmho
See my signature, who ever you feed the most, that will dominate, the foul side or the blessed side is a choice. Hugs and puppy kisses Greta

I understand.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Sharly4

So you did mean me?

LOL! See what I mean about meaning/content being lost in just text?

No, I didn't mean you in particular. I meant "you" in the general sense of anyone who posts.

[cally930]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Amen sisters! If some of these people put even a 10th of the whining into making a positive change for the breed that we love even that would be positive.

and another thing...........

I'm so tired of threads like these.

Now this is a perfect example of why I said "the good old boys club". Why address some and not all - when a thread like this is like a bunch of people in a conversation - not just a few that you want to talk to and exclude the rest. Its like you're moking someone - right in front of them???

[Sharly4]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

LOL! See what I mean about meaning/content being lost in just text?

No, I didn't mean you in particular. I meant "you" in the general sense of anyone who posts.

Hahaha! I wish I could live chat with you all! Typing makes no sense to me! As I'm slow. I just couldn't see that. We need a between the lines explainer person. JK!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Sharly4

Oh my gosh! I'm telling you! Hahaha I think there's something in my coffee! When my dad said don't take polish jokes to heart he wasn't kidding! I feel like I AM one right now! Hahahahaha

LOL. I'm Polish, too. And a blonde on top of that.

[cally930]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

Yep.

I have to say, after having seen this debate take place approximately 8,344,398,348 times here... it's not going to change. There's a wide range of sensitivities here, and unfortunately, a few people choose to be very ill-mannered. I've seen several people basically say that they are absolutely not open to change since they are already without flaw, so there you go.

It's a big forum, and there are lots of great people and a lot of great information. Negative experiences tend to get more of our attention, that's just how we're built. Our dogs are the same way! So sometimes we may need to make an effort to focus on the many, many positive things, even when there is just that one maddening comment you can't get out of your head.

Very well said!!! I don't get offended easily - I'll tell you that - and if I do - I'll let you know that how you said it was uncalled for. Just....... from being on YT for a short time now - I think I have read every single thread there is - every other thread contains a comment or a remark that really should not have been - not that the messenger delivered it harshly - but never should have said it in the first place. I just think people should just take the time to read what they wrote before they click on "Submit Reply"

[felicity1008]

I know what you are saying that some people are mean. I have seen so many responses to various people looking for advice and sometimes it gets nasty and people get defensive and start fighting...its terrible. I just believe that the MEAN people need to ask questions and know the WHOLE story about the OP's before they make direct attacks. So much text is missunderstood here on both ends. I love YT and appreciate peoples opinions and take them constructively.

[Sharly4]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

LOL. I'm Polish, too. And a blonde on top of that.

Oh no?!! LOL! You too? My dad at times says that I shoulda been blonde. but I'm half Korean. So the dominant brown eyes brown hair is what I've got. Can you believe my dad tells me that?!! Hahahaha

[Sharly4]

Originally Posted by cally930

Very well said!!! I don't get offended easily - I'll tell you that - and if I do - I'll let you know that how you said it was uncalled for. Just....... from being on YT for a short time now - I think I have read every single thread there is - every other thread contains a comment or a remark that really should not have been - not that the messenger delivered it harshly - but never should have said it in the first place. I just think people should just take the time to read what they wrote before they click on "Submit Reply"

True!