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04-22-2009, 09:30 AM | #31 | |
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There are certain requirements that need to be met for the Make a Wish program and if they only way to grant a puppy would be from puppy from Petland it just should not be an option. How can you possibly say that puppymills are not OK except for kids that are in the Make a Wish program? Your logic here is beyond my comprehension. Puppymills are not acceptable in any shape of form EVER. I just don't understand how breeding sick dogs so that you or anyone else can have a "cheap" puppy is even an argument? To further say that because they are busy it is OK to condone the actions of Petland? All they have to do is say NO! I am not asking MaW or St. Jude himself to fight puppymills! I was questioning whether or not they knew the implications of Petland's donations and was shocked by the response that I received. I believe you have totally missed the point of this entire thread.
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04-22-2009, 09:33 AM | #32 |
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| I believe strongly in Make A Wish Foundation. With that said, as all of you know I am also a very strong advocate in shutting mills down. I'm wondering if (just a thought) but if our reputable breeders here on YT would be willing to donate a pup to a child in need? I'm wondering if WE as a group could propose a letter to MAW educating them on where these Petland pups come from and supply them with a list of REPUTABLE Breeders that would be willing to join their cause IF and ONLY IF they sever ties with Petland. I know that it may not be a Yorkie that is sought after but maybe it's a start and I'm sure these breeders have friends that breed different breeds that too may be willing to join the cause. Just some food for thought. Elaine |
04-22-2009, 09:44 AM | #33 | |
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On Nov. 20, 2008, The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) launched a full-scale media attack on Petland Inc., with false allegations regarding the purchase of pets from substandard breeders. The HSUS held a press conference in Washington, D.C., disseminated their video and report to media nationwide, and conducted a massive e-mail campaign to its members. The video used by The HSUS is a gross distortion of the truth and the validity of the report and investigation is HIGHLY SUSPECT. In The HSUS' report of its 8-month investigation, it claimed to have visited 21 Petland stores, and 35 breeders and brokers. The HSUS also claimed to have examined the records of more than 17,000 individual puppies. On Nov. 21, Petland asked Stephanie Shain, program manager, The HSUS, to release all documentation that detailed the Petland store and breeder investigation, and the nearly 17,000 puppies in question. To date, this documentation has not been turned over to the USDA or the proper authorities. In fact, the Pet Rescue Examiner reported that the USDA released a statement about the charges filed by The HSUS and said that it had not received any complaints by The HSUS about any particular breeder or about Petland. On Nov. 24, Petland urged The HSUS again to turn over the documentation to the proper authorities through an open letter to the editor. Within the letter, Petland stated, "Petland is outraged that HSUS would intentionally use video footage of unrelated kennels in the report to try to mislead the general public into believing these facilities have a connection to Petland." On Nov. 27, Petland finally received a packet from The HSUS with documentation, but all that was included were USDA reports, information which is available to the public. There were NO documents of The HSUS' inspections of 21 Petland stores and 35 breeders, and there was NO documentation of the 17,000 puppies HSUS referenced. There was simply NO evidence that The HSUS actually did an investigation. Even the video of the kennels tied to Petland only showed the exterior of the kennels. Also, no interviews with the owners, no inside shots, no specific shots of violations were ever provided. What Is The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)? The HSUS is a national animal protection agency based in Washington D.C. that is essentially a public relations entity with no affiliation with local humane societies or local animal shelters. The Real Issue is Substandard Breeders The real, disturbing issue is that there are substandard breeders in operation. The way to end the suffering of animals in these facilities is to eliminate those substandard breeders or to bring them into compliance with humane and acceptable standards. For years, Petland has been a leader in the stand against substandard breeders. Petland is part of the solution. As such, the objective of The HSUS to “shut down” Petland is illogical. The misguided attack by The HSUS does nothing to stop these poor breeding practices, and in fact, hinders the fight against substandard breeders. Petland – A Leader in Responsible Pet Care As the largest national pet retailer, Petland continues to raise the bar and set the gold standard for pet care. Petland has developed the following programs to address critical issues, and to protect the welfare of pets and educate pet owners: Humane Care Guidelines The Petland Humane Care Guidelines represent commitment of its member breeders and distributors to provide the best possible care for all the animals in their kennels. These guidelines govern care of dogs that live under their care as part of a well-managed breeding system as well as those that are raised through puppyhood for the enjoyment of pet owners across The United States. Petland strictly enforces these guidelines through the landmark Petland Certified Kennel Program, which mandates regular inspections by licensed veterinarians in addition to current licensure by the governing state and federal agencies. Spay/Neuter Petland Pet Counselors educate new puppy and kitten owners about responsible pet care and participate in cooperative programs with local veterinarians. Petland provides families with discount incentives to spay or neuter their pet. More and more Petland stores are making already altered pets available or offering a free or discount spay/neuter certificate to pet owners who purchase a puppy or kitten. Petland's Adopt-A-Pet(SM) Petland's Adopt-A-Pet(SM) has helped place more than a quarter of a million homeless pets in the last 10 years. Petland Pet Counselors work with staff at local animal shelters, pet rescue groups and with members of the local community to place homeless pets, such as puppies, dogs, kittens, cats and a variety of small animals. As part of this cooperative program, Petland store operators make available their highly visible Petland display windows to aid in the placement of homeless pets in local communities. Enhanced Protection Program The Enhanced Protection Program is a partnership between the American Kennel Club's Companion Animal Recovery (AKC CAR) program and helpmefindMYPET™. Together, these programs provide a comprehensive pet recovery process that includes microchipping, tattooing, tagging and Amber Alert-type registration. This successful program returns 87 percent of lost or stolen pets, compared to the national average of 12 percent. Pets for a Lifetime(SM) Petland puppies go home with Pets for a Lifetime Resource Kits. This free, comprehensive dog training program includes a DVD on puppy training by a professional canine behavior specialist and a free canine behavior training membership. Petland offers a free helpline for dog owners with canine behaviors that are not addressed in the provided educational materials. The resource kit also includes information on local pet care specialists and coupons for savings on pet care products from Petland. Pet Therapy Pet therapy is a natural extension of Petland's retail environment. By definition, pet therapy is the use of animals in the therapeutic treatment of humans. Petland commonly takes its pets to visit school children and nursing home residents. Studies have shown that the human-animal bond that pets provide are good for people, enhancing verbal and social skills in children, reducing stress in adults and providing companionship and lowering blood pressure in seniors. These are just a few examples of how Petland is committed to the welfare of pets. Petland continues to be at the forefront of setting industry standards and will continue to fight and raise awareness of substandard breeding. Petland's Response After reviewing the material that The HSUS provided, Petland responded to The HSUS' allegations on its Web site stating "…healthy, happy, well-socialized pets within our care are our number one priority, as they have been for 41 years. We do not support substandard breeding facilities and we provide each Petland store with 'Humane Care Guidelines,' which were developed in conjunction with the USDA to assist with breeder facility inspections." Since the initial response, Petland has reached out to its franchisees, employees and the media with the truth. We will continue to disseminate the truth and protect the good name of Petland.
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04-22-2009, 09:47 AM | #34 | |
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04-22-2009, 09:55 AM | #35 | |
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I give up, too many people now associate HSUS with PETA. They think the are some radical organization and believe the propaganda put out by commercial breeders. I think HUSU is very different than PETA, while they are both concerned with humane care of animals, HUSU is not against breeding or pet ownership. If you don't believe me, here's a comment from none other than Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh Speaks Up For Humane Society
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04-22-2009, 10:15 AM | #36 | |
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Yes, this is true but unless I'm reading it wrong isn't Petland donating the pups to the sick children? If that's the case then my suggestion would give Petland another alternative other then using a store that gets their pups from mills. MAW is not going to use funds to buy a pup if they are getting a pup for from from Petland. It comes down to dollar and cents and not necessarily where that pup came from. Elaine Last edited by jrsygal37; 04-22-2009 at 10:16 AM. | |
04-22-2009, 09:34 PM | #37 |
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04-22-2009, 10:42 PM | #38 | |
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04-23-2009, 12:34 AM | #39 |
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| Jodi, Can all of us start a petition and send it to the appropriate people? I have also emailed Oprah and Dr Phill. We need to get this out to the media. Let me know your thoughts. |
04-23-2009, 05:27 AM | #40 |
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| Here is what I have been doing........Late last night I was really thinking about how to get a good petition together as suggested by nancy1999 and Manolo'smom. I did a search right here on YT and found a post from Yorkiesmiles http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...peaks-out.html It listed all of the contact emails for people involved with the Petland protests that are going on all over the country~so I emailed them all Believe it or not even they were not aware this was going on! But they are NOW An online petition is being put together by a member of HSUS and as soon as it is up and ready I will let everyone know. In the mean time if you have not already done so please send an email to the Make a Wish Foundation regarding Petland and their association to puppymills. Finally, I would like to stress AGAIN my intent is not to cause problems to MaW or deny a child their wish. I fully intend to do whatever is in my power to enlighten MaW of the facts surrounding Petland. Like Nancy said earlier, there is no reason to accept dirty "money" puppymill dogs from Petland~they could purchase from reputable breeders to fulfull a child's wish! This association is what bothers me and how Make a Wish is being douped into believing that Petland is doing a great thing for these kids. This is the website that the petition will most likely be placed but for now you can go and check it out. Puppy Mill Dogs Voice - HOME
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04-23-2009, 05:47 AM | #41 |
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| As a Wish family, I can say they do have the money to buy from a respectable breeder. The average wish costs around $7K. Which is more than enough to fufill the child's wish if they are wanting ANY kind of puppy....
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04-23-2009, 07:22 AM | #42 | |
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04-23-2009, 07:33 AM | #43 |
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| PS- I'm sure Make a Wish is enlightened about Petland; they just have priorities- which is to help families get their wish. Your goal seems to be to stoop MaW from accepting donations from Petland. Even if MaW stopped taking donations from Petland, it would not affect Petland. Petland donates these puppies, they do not receive money for them. So ceasing to donate to MaW does not hurt their sales- which means they will continue to purchase from these puppy mills. The "publicity" that you think MaW donations get Petland does not help their sales. The publicity is mostly from Petland Corp. And there are never spikes in sales. I just wanted to further elaborate on my point about how MaW is getting caught in the crossfire against your anti-Petland campaign. Since apparently you read into everything I say as pro Petland...I will make this clear: I would like to see all Petlands closed. I would not like to see the MaW foundation unnecessarily financially hurt in order for this to happen. Regarding MaW buying from a direct breeder. I think that is a perfect idea. And a campaign to MaW to support this would be a good idea; but please dont stop donating to them. |
04-23-2009, 07:58 AM | #44 | |
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Do not worry because this is now being taken care of and address in a very positive manner. HSUS is not a radical organization as Petland is presenting them to be to MaW as a matter of fact they have a resource to direct people to good breeders that are not puppymills. Hopefully in the future with a little encouragement MaW will use donation money to purchase a puppy for a child wish instead of taking puppies from Petland. I am still curious how you found this forum so quickly when it came to Petland and an thread about Petland birthday parties that turned into Petland granting Make A Wish donations? I don't think I am trying to make this a conspiracy as you stated, I truly am curious how you found us. This is a question that is asked often on this forum.
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04-23-2009, 08:06 AM | #45 | |
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You could be a very valuable ally in this task, as you have first hand information about Petland, I hope you focus on what we are trying to accomplish, and that's educating these charities that Petland is not the sort of company that they should associated with. I hope you will join us in educating others about the problems. Once the facts are out there, we can all make a decision on what to do.
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