WHAT HAPPNED TO MY YORKIE? Please Help!

[TAStetherainbow]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

They wanted nothing to do with that. So they ended up taking our dogs to a Kill Shelter. And they killed them only 20 minutes after they were there so we had no time to arrange any other home for them.


Are you kidding me? You allowed them to have the dog's or they
just took them and had them killed? This is America and I have
never in my life heard such nonsence! You may have had to get
rid of them within a certain amount of time but there is no way
your going to tell me these people took your dog's and had them
killed without you knowing about it! And the pound did this without
your permission! Sorry this bucket of nonsence just dosen't hold water!
I see major lawsuits, snooty people or not. No one can kill another's
dog in a kill shelter without the original owner giving the ok.
There's a piece of the story missing here.

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

A release was signed that is the part that was missing.
I am sorry this happened to your family and wish you good
luck with your new pup. However, I would be moving to a safer
and more welcoming neighborhood.

I guess so. I'm sorry I didnt include it earlier. But yes my grandparents signed the release but that still is messy because my father is the one that purchased all three and is the documented owner so they should have asked him and he would have never let them take them considering we have an aunt that has a rescue we could have sent them too. But thats beside the point.
And yes I am very upset about this too. Thanks for the warm wishes.
Oh haha you do not have to tell me twice! I want nothing more than to get out of here asap!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by TAStetherainbow

Oh I understand. Well thanks for your opinion its deffinatley alot to think about. Allthough I dont know If I feel the same way but. I will deffinatley look into the CKC and AKC registration. and yes I hope she ends up being what I want and healthy so she can be a good family pet. I dont want to show her or anything just have a companion.

Question, maybe Mardelin will know best since you show....
Aren't all show dogs AKC only? Every once in a while I keep hearing about people justifying getting CKC or whatever registered dogs b/c they don't plan on showing? You can't show a CKC dog anyway, right?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Question, maybe Mardelin will know best since you show....
Aren't all show dogs AKC only? Every once in a while I keep hearing about people justifying getting CKC or whatever registered dogs b/c they don't plan on showing? You can't show a CKC dog anyway, right?

No, there are UKC shows, which was established for the sporting dogs. Rules are a bit different; how you champion a dog, no handlers allowed, grooming protocol. Great training ground, so I understand for newbies.

No, you can't show a CKC dog. However, it is used by Puppy Mills and BYBers for various reasons.....they are less into the improvement of the breed and into the making money aspect. It's easy to register a questional pedigreed or parentage dog there. So, the certificate can be used to fool the unsuspecting buyer.

AKC is the coveted and desired Championship reputable breeder/exhibitors want. Since the purpose of showing is to gain approval of your breeding stock. That doesn't mean that every dog that has been Championed should have been. You can drag a dog around the show circuit, go to obscur shows where the competition isn't great and you can Champion a dog. Hence again if you're looking for a healthy dog, that is a good representation of the breed....you still have to do your homework.

Did I give you enough info?

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

No, there are UKC shows, which was established for the sporting dogs. Rules are a bit different; how you champion a dog, no handlers allowed, grooming protocol. Great training ground, so I understand for newbies.

No, you can't show a CKC dog. However, it is used by Puppy Mills and BYBers for various reasons.....they are less into the improvement of the breed and into the making money aspect. It's easy to register a questional pedigreed or parentage dog there. So, the certificate can be used to fool the unsuspecting buyer.

AKC is the coveted and desired Championship reputable breeder/exhibitors want. Since the purpose of showing is to gain approval of your breeding stock. That doesn't mean that every dog that has been Championed should have been. You can drag a dog around the show circuit, go to obscur shows where the competition isn't great and you can Champion a dog. Hence again if you're looking for a healthy dog, that is a good representation of the breed....you still have to do your homework.

Did I give you enough info?

ah ha, I understand, thanks for the info. I always wondered how some people would say their pups were from champion lines, when they looked, er..., unchampionlike.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

ah ha, I understand, thanks for the info. I always wondered how some people would say their pups were from champion lines, when they looked, er..., unchampionlike.

Now you opened a whole other can of worms. There are BYBers out there that are pedigree hunters....go through any means, via the back door to obtain a great pedigree with Champions in it.....the trick is to know who Championed the dog; did the breeder and how up front in the pedigree those Champions are.....Champion Lines, well anyone can say that.....again your homework.

[Charlieboy]

the puppy looks like a Yorkie and a cutie!!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Now you opened a whole other can of worms. There are BYBers out there that are pedigree hunters....go through any means, via the back door to obtain a great pedigree with Champions in it.....the trick is to know who Championed the dog; did the breeder and how up front in the pedigree those Champions are.....Champion Lines, well anyone can say that.....again your homework.

oh sneeeaakky. makes sense to me. Thanks again for the info.

[TAStetherainbow]

I looked into to the CKC and AKC thing. You guys are right. Although i did find that CKC does hold there own shows and such but its nothing like an AKC from what I gathered I might be wrong. The father of my pup is an AKC and CKC registered and the mother is just CKC. Does that mean anything bad? do you guys know?

And thanks for your input Charlieboy! I'm really taking into consideration everyones input to make an informed descion. I'm learning so much.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by TAStetherainbow

Well from that to that dont you think she seems just different
but yes she looks a little thinner and her coat is less shiny and uneven. maybe she will look better when i pick her up I just want to research more
to make sure theres nothing wrong with her. because the first shot she looks like a cute lil bear and the next one she looks way tinier and idk.
maybe im just ocd'ing about this lol

I think shes adorable. what Im seeing is a picture of a fat cute baby then the next picture is her losing the baby chubbiness, shes adorable. and yes thats a good price, if shes Healthy I would snatch her up. I know a few breeders who sell CKC. they make beautiful pets.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

And this isnt my first dog we've had 3 before but they were killed by the home owners association from where I am currently living and I despise them for it.



Am I the only one who read this?
Everyone is talking about pups, litter's, looks etc but what about this
statement? Where the heck do you live and why would you even
consider bringing another dog, of any kind, into this envirornment?
What kind of people are they?

No, You're not alone, I read it too, but then after reading all the ramblings from the OP, I didn't figure I'd get a straight answer so didn't question it.

I've seen this style of posting before and it left my mind boggled.

[Yorik]

Originally Posted by TAStetherainbow

Well from that to that dont you think she seems just different
but yes she looks a little thinner and her coat is less shiny and uneven. maybe she will look better when i pick her up I just want to research more
to make sure theres nothing wrong with her. because the first shot she looks like a cute lil bear and the next one she looks way tinier and idk.
maybe im just ocd'ing about this lol

For me 1 and 3d picture was of the same puppy. 2nd - it was other one (much better quality). Look at the tan collor, shape of the scull, etc. If you like this "breeder" buy the mix breed puppy from her. At least you will get what you buy. Purebred yorkie can't cost 500. This puppy on the last picture has hard coat. It will be very dark and slow growing coat. Normal yorkhire terrier will cost $1200 and up. Why do you want to breed you future puppy? Do you think it is easy? Sorry, I think you did bad homework with your research.

[yorkie_mama22]

Doesn't sound like you did your homework right. 500 for a yorkie is cheap and what you will probably get is a cheap dog. I paid 500 for a 1.5 year old yorkie girl who was registered too. APRI which is a load of crock. I was like you naive. What I got for 500 bucks was an absolutely LOVING, gentle gorgeous (in my eyes) yorkie with a WHOLE load of health problems. I thought I did my homework and studying too

If your looking for a pet companion, go for it. CKC papers, I wouldn't be getting so excited over them because I wouldn't buy a breeding dog that wasn't AKC or Canadian Kennel Club. Those dogs are going to cost you way more and are worth every penny. Please be careful and don't throw all the advice in the garbage, alot of people know what their talking about and some have years of experience to share with you, no need to be snotty or smart. I am not trying to be rude either but some of your replies come off a bit snotty to me. Again this is the internet so what do I know.


Goodluck the pup in the pics is cute, not sure if its all the same dog though, quality of photos isn't good. Oh and I'd be moving outta where ever you are and definitely not attending any of their fun dog things they do.

[TAStetherainbow]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

No, You're not alone, I read it too, but then after reading all the ramblings from the OP, I didn't figure I'd get a straight answer so didn't question it.

I've seen this style of posting before and it left my mind boggled.

What do you mean ramblings? lol I'm just trying to answer the questions that people keep throwing. Please remember I know alot about yorkies but just what the books say about raising them. I know nothing about the buying part thats why I came on here to ask for advice so I dont realy understand why people are hacking it to bits and making it sound like I did something wrong I'm just asking about the pup and if thats normal but from what alot of people have said they dont think this breeder is the best. So I will probably take my depoisit back because I've learned some now and I think its just to many "red flags" like everyone has said so I will probably just wait for a better one. Also I answered to archie about the whole situation with the HOA I didnt go into detail orginally because I didnt realy think it was important.

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

Doesn't sound like you did your homework right. 500 for a yorkie is cheap and what you will probably get is a cheap dog. I paid 500 for a 1.5 year old yorkie girl who was registered too. APRI which is a load of crock. I was like you naive. What I got for 500 bucks was an absolutely LOVING, gentle gorgeous (in my eyes) yorkie with a WHOLE load of health problems. I thought I did my homework and studying too

If your looking for a pet companion, go for it. CKC papers, I wouldn't be getting so excited over them because I wouldn't buy a breeding dog that wasn't AKC or Canadian Kennel Club. Those dogs are going to cost you way more and are worth every penny. Please be careful and don't throw all the advice in the garbage, alot of people know what their talking about and some have years of experience to share with you, no need to be snotty or smart. I am not trying to be rude either but some of your replies come off a bit snotty to me. Again this is the internet so what do I know.


Goodluck the pup in the pics is cute, not sure if its all the same dog though, quality of photos isn't good. Oh and I'd be moving outta where ever you are and definitely not attending any of their fun dog things they do.

Thanks for the info on the registration and the dog prices. It sounds pretty unanimous about the breeder lol! so I'm glad I came on here and got some good answers about what to do with this situation.

However I havent "thrown advice in the garbage" I really am listening to everyone and I'm learning a bunch I don't mean to come off snotty or smart, but allot of the replies have come off snotty and intrusive to me so I guess I was just being defensive and I'm sorry.

I appreciate the warm wishes and I hope I have good luck with finding one. Haha! for sure I wont! the last thing I'de want to do is attend any of there events. We are already in the process of relocating. This is just not the right place for us.

Thanks again =)

[jmdt]

If you are planning on moving, why not wait until you are settled in a new place before bringing a puppy in. I absolutly not socialize with these people. I would be afraid to bring a puppy there if they got away with this nonsense about taking your dogs away.
jmo

[TAStetherainbow]

JMDT,
yes I agree. We were waiting we had just like I said met the breeder and we had put a deposit on her next litter wich is like 4-5 months away. But when she offered us a deal on this puppy we had accepted. But yeah with what everyone has been saying I dont think we will get her. Unless I see her and she looks more normal but yeah I think theres just too many red flags. Yeah we realy dont socialize with them. Its so frusterating when they have there haloween dress up for there dogs and kids and its like seriously? how can you celibrate after you all killed 3 dogs.