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Winstin07 09-19-2007 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1380800)
Ok, I got ya. Boy, talk about a size difference. And I bet Winston is (or will) be the boss dog and keep them in line when it's all said and done. :p

Yes, quite the size difference. Winstin is funny and just wants to kiss them all the time.

MyFairLacy 09-19-2007 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Winstin07 (Post 1380801)
It was the one a guy started about breeding his dog that was 8-10 pounds I think he did get it from a store. I brought up how all my dogs are from a store and you did say you have never seen quality dogs from there. That is mostly true about stores but I have awesome dogs and I may have just taken that post to personal.
I meant I've never seen any show-quality yorkies come out of petstores (or anything show-quality), but I did say I've seen a lot of cute puppies. There is a girl I recently met that has an adorable yorkie that she bought from a petstore....show quality, no, but adorable

BamaFan121s 09-19-2007 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1380799)
Nope,no arguements here....that's the type of person that I am. Just addressing what you said about people that do not breed to the standard and your comment of how they are ruining the breed. My Livi is not a Biewer,she's 100% Yorkshire Terrier and not standard by YTCA....which would put her in the category that you described as,"ruining the breed". This is the only reason that I addressed this.

By the way,thanks....I of course think she is pretty dog-gone cute.
Nope, not what I meant either. I meant the breeders and millers breeding something they 'call' a Yorkie, not caring what the parents look like or what the pups end up as and then when questioned about it claim, "well, I'm only breeding the dogs to be pets."

Winstin07 09-19-2007 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1380812)
I meant I've never seen any show-quality yorkies come out of petstores (or anything show-quality), but I did say I've seen a lot of cute puppies. There is a girl I recently met that has an adorable yorkie that she bought from a petstore....show quality, no, but adorable
I think you left out the show part of quality in that thread. Now it makes sense. I feel so much better!! Thank You!!! Makes me wonder how Winstin will be when he is bigger.

MyFairLacy 09-19-2007 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Winstin07 (Post 1380819)
I think you left out the show part of quality in that thread. Now it makes sense. I feel so much better!! Thank You!!! Makes me wonder how Winstin will be when he is bigger.
If that's him in your avatar, he's a cutie.

TammyJM 09-19-2007 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1380814)
Nope, not what I meant either. I meant the breeders and millers breeding something they 'call' a Yorkie, not caring what the parents look like or what the pups end up as and then when questioned about it claim, "well, I'm only breeding the dogs to be pets."
ok.....

I guess I just get defensive about Livi because there are those that have said that partis are "ruining the breed". I look at her in awe because she is breathtaking....absolutely stunning in person! Yes,I know,I am biased in my opinion because she's mine. :rolleyes:

crystalsmom 09-19-2007 06:53 PM
When a show breeder breeds they are lucky to get one show dog out of two or three litters to possibly show and the others are sold as pets to be neutered.

I love our breed and it is beginning to look like something that I can't even recognize anymore and I feel education is the answer.

There are many ways to make a living but when you a dealing with a living animal I think you owe them more than if you were selling a used car.

That's all for me. Good Night.

Chelsea15 09-19-2007 06:55 PM
MyFairLacy isnt saying that they HAVE to be shown. But if you plan to breed, they need to be show quality. ALL yorkies make great pets, but some just shouldnt be bred. And yes, its b/c they dont fit the standard, no matter how cute. Only the best yorkies should be bred, thats the only way to better the breed.

And I 100% agree.

And in my opinion, any breeder who loves and is dedicated to the breed, would write in the contract that the puppy MUST be spayed/nuetered (for any puppy that they KNOW will not be show quality.)

Winstin07 09-19-2007 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1380825)
If that's him in your avatar, he's a cutie.
Yes it is. I was just getting ready to tell you I like your avatar picture. I do apologize if I got rude or to blunt with you. I just took things way to personal. I felt like a mom with her daggers out and my babies were under attack. :p

YorkieShadow 09-19-2007 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Winstin07 (Post 1380841)
Yes it is. I was just getting ready to tell you I like your avatar picture. I do apologize if I got rude or to blunt with you. I just took things way to personal. I felt like a mom with her daggers out and my babies were under attack. :p
I think thats what most of it is, Hurt feelings and all us mommys out to protect our baby's, They are like our children and it hurts when you think one is talking down on them.
But I think we all get along most of the time.:D

MyFairLacy 09-19-2007 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalsmom (Post 1380836)
When a show breeder breeds they are lucky to get one show dog out of two or three litters to possibly show and the others are sold as pets to be neutered.

I love our breed and it is beginning to look like something that I can't even recognize anymore and I feel education is the answer.

There are many ways to make a living but when you a dealing with a living animal I think you owe them more than if you were selling a used car.

That's all for me. Good Night.
I know this is kindof random but something I'm proud of..LOL. I have a 10 month old Himalayan from a fantastic show breeder. She was out of a litter of 7 kittens and she kept four for show. I thought that was impressive - 4 show quality kittens out of a litter of 7. And they only fault mine has is that her nose is just a tad too long (they really have to have that extreme face - it's like the deciding thing in the show ring - like coat for yorkies)..so my baby just had one fault. Anyway...doesn't exactly relate to the thread but your comment made me think of it and I just thought it was pretty awesome

MyFairLacy 09-19-2007 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1380874)
I think thats what most of it is, Hurt feelings and all us mommys out to protect our baby's, They are like our children and it hurts when you think one is talking down on them.
But I think we all get along most of the time.:D
I think we all have to remember that all of our babies are adorable! No one is personally talking about anyone's dog not being cute and the best pet out there. It's just that when talking about breeding and all we have to talk about quality in general. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my baby but I know she's not show quality

CO_yorkie_momma 09-19-2007 07:09 PM
[QUOTEWhen a show breeder breeds they are lucky to get one show dog out of two or three litters to possibly show and the others are sold as pets to be neutered.][/QUOTE]

First of all I want to say I agree with this 100%. I am probably going to open a whole can of worms with this but this is what I mean when I said breeders are in between a rock and a hard place. I hear all about bettering the breed and I understand it BUT if show breeders are the only ones to breed yorkies and they spay and neuter all of the dogs that they dont keep for their own, then how are they possibly bettering the breed with their spayed and neutered progeny?

Winstin07 09-19-2007 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1380874)
I think thats what most of it is, Hurt feelings and all us mommys out to protect our baby's, They are like our children and it hurts when you think one is talking down on them.
But I think we all get along most of the time.:D

Very true. We all do pretty good.

Winstin07 09-19-2007 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1380879)
I think we all have to remember that all of our babies are adorable! No one is personally talking about anyone's dog not being cute and the best pet out there. It's just that when talking about breeding and all we have to talk about quality in general. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my baby but I know she's not show quality
Very nicely put. ;)


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