Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 1380716)

Can you imagine how many people would be that be without their beloved Yorkies if there weren't people that bred "pet quality"? I know,I for one, would be without my precious Harley and Livi.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1380721)

I agree...I don't think you have to show but you can at least get your dogs evaluated by an expert.:thumbup:
I also am of the opinion that the 'no one likes you' and likewise comments are uncalled for and could be excluded from this discussion. They serve no purpose.:(

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 1380724)

Not every dog that meets the standard is show quality. Show quality is the best of the best and that is why they deserve to be in the ring. .

Originally Posted by kelsie123186 (Post 1380720)

From what I have heard (and once again I am just a stupid newbie trying to gather as much knowledge as possible) Good breeders will not sell their "show quality" pups to anyone but people who are going to show... ls this true?

Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1380732)

Throwing cold water on this thread to cool it down lol.... Ok with that being said... Daisy is humping Peeka like a mad Hussy is this normal after a heat?? Sorry had to break the tension but really i am serious she is a hussy... lol:D

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1380728)

the part I have a problem with is her saying that you shouldn't even breed unless you show because you don't even know the standard.

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1380489)

I think that if you're interested in breeding, the best thing you can do is start attending shows and find a show breeder who is willing to mentor you.

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1380689)

I did say that if the dog isn't shown, it should at least be evaluated by a show breeder or judge. Obviously not everyone is going to be interested in showing, but the dog should at least be evaluated to meet the standard. I never said anything about her having to show the dog anyway. I said the dog should be show-quality (ie. would do well in the show ring IF shown). And just because I don't show or breed doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. I've had conversations with both cat and dog show breeders, and all of them have had basically the same outlook and purpose to breeding...and they all say the purpose to breed is to better the breed. I've also been a member of dog and pet-related forumes other than YT for years and have gained a TON of knowledge about the show world and what a reputable breeder is. And no my dog did not come from a show breeder. She was given to me as a gift for Christmas three years ago. And no I don't believe she came from the best breeder out there, but I didn't buy her. And she's a WONDERFUL pet, I think she's adorable, and I love her more than anything. But I can see her faults. I wouldn't trade her for anything though.

Originally Posted by Winstin07 (Post 1380744)

By the way they are quality dogs and meet standard.

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1380728)

only bad thing about that is, from what I have been reading on another thread, a lot of the judges don't even know the standard anymore. so is it any wonder people get confused. i don't believe anyone is taking issue with remarks being made that people should have their dogs evluated by a judge. that is a great thing to do and I don't believe anyone is taking issue with the statement that all breeders should breed tobetter the breed. that's true. they should. the part I have a problem with is her saying that you shouldn't even breed unless you show because you don't even know the standard. Well, pardon me, but i do know the standard. i know it well and was just a few minutes ago studying in more detail. I study the standard every day and try to commit it to memory as best I can. There is not a day goes by that i don't learn something new. it's just like with me being a retired R.N., when i first graduated, I thought I knew more than the doctors but it wasn't until I actually got the hands on that I knew just how little I did know that's the way I feel about a lot of this stuff on here.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1380731)

True, but their is a big difference in a 'pet quality' only dog and a dog that was ill bred without standard being followed. It's the latter of the two that are ruining the breed.

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 1380742)

:lol tears
Can't help with the humping but thanks for the laugh!

Originally Posted by Winstin07 (Post 1380744)

I thought this was cute considering I was told in another post (by you) that my dogs are not quality. Because of where they are from. By the way they are quality dogs and meet standard. I honestly am convincing myself that you mean well and just have a strong opinion about some things. Which is ok. Otherwise I would be hurt that you judge my babies without knowing them and I did not think it was like that here.


**Maybe this post should be closed before people get to offended.

Originally Posted by kelsie123186 (Post 1380736)

this is exactly what I have been told by quite a few breeders.... that is why I got so confused when in another thread i was told I had to get a show quality yorkie if i wanted to breed.... that is why i started this whole thread