Sweety Blue is a wonderful site but, focuses on the European shows and dogs. The big show they attend in the US is the YTCA National and Westminster held in February.

True but I love looking at all of the beautiful dogs and seeing what is winning in the other countries too. I like seeing what breeders are considered the top 20 and which dogs have the most points. I love that site. Makes me really want to get into the showing end even more.

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That is the post I have been waiting for... :bravo:

That last sentence I don't quite understand? Certainly there are plenty of times that you do have pet quality that is being spayed and neutered. Just because it comes from a good or great line doesn't mean every dog will be
one you would breed. I may have misunderstood.

Yeah...? Still, she never said you HAVE to show. I guess it is all up to how you choose to interpret it and what you want to make it out to be. I saw nothing wrong with that statement. I personally consider 'show quality dog' to mean a dog that is a great representation of the breed that meets the standards better than the average--that can be done without actuallly setting foot in the ring. I take pet quality to mean dogs that don't meet the standard and are just that...pet quality...are you saying they should be bred?:confused: Again, guess it just depends on how you are choosing to interpret the use of the term 'show dog.' Would it be better to say 'excellent representation that meets the AKC defined standard?'

She said: "The majority of breeders, including those on YT, are not show-breeders...that is why there are so many yorkies out there that do not meet the yorkie standard." which later was corrected by "I did say that if the dog isn't shown, it should at least be evaluated by a show breeder or judge. Obviously not everyone is going to be interested in showing, but the dog should at least be evaluated to meet the standard. I never said anything about her having to show the dog anyway. I said the dog should be show-quality (ie. would do well in the show ring IF shown)." There were a few more iffy comments that were thrown out there...

The offensive part is "The majority of breeders, including those on YT, are not show-breeders...that is why there are so many yorkies out there that do not meet the yorkie standard."

I believe what Sugar's Mom is saying and I agree, that yes, there are breeders who do not breed to the standard (and they should not breed) but then there are breeders who do follow standard and choose not to show. That does not mean their breeding stock is not show quality or does not conform to the breed standard. If it was not a direct attack at people who don't show and still breed, then at the very least it was a careless use of words (in that phrase). I believe she went on to better explain her beliefs and it's all good...

I agree it would be great to go to shows, get a mentour and learn the inside and outs from the best but that is not as easy done as said. I myself am very interested in showing in th enear future. I am curently working toward learning as much as I can as I know Sugar's Mom is as well and I respect her and her breeding program. :p

You are right, she went on to better explain herself, so why is it still an issue? I think we are all guilty of poorly choosing our words at some point or another. She explained what she meant and I don't think anyone had a problem with that, just maybe the way she presented it.... And yes, I believe the majority here are in agreement with the points you made above...didn't see where that was questioned...

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Most of the breeders I know that put adds in the yorkshire terrier magazine sell their pups on limited/spay/neuter contracts. If you want a show prospect, it is co-owned and with a breeding/show contract. Lynn

Very strict pet and/or show contracts.

AMEN.

I was going to say the same but I have lost interest in people who care less about learning anything. My Fair Lacy taught all on this thread alot and so her words got a little fumbled. :( Everyone has their right to an opinion but after it has been explained over and over it get alittle much!!!!!!!!!!

My last litter of 3; 2 boys and 1 girl. The girl is what I had my heart set on, but her bite went off, so I petted her out. The 2 boys were both show quality, but I didn't need them since I still have their sire. One went to a show home, the other, though a beautiful speciman of the breed, went to a pet home, finding them the best homes possible is my primary objective.

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Thanks Mardelin, I understand now. That's how I got my Champion 10 yrs ago from someone who knew I would give her a good home. She was 3 yrs old at the time. I have been studying the breed for over 10 yrs and love to keep up with things. At one point I wanted to breed but decided if I couldn't do it right I would be better off doing something else.

I love the breed though and know people like you and others like Yorkie Rose help our breed immensily. Joan