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09-06-2007, 06:25 AM | #1 |
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| Not so great dog food! So I started Skylar on Eukanuba...and the trainer said switch to wellness, it's better for her. So I did. And she liked it for a few weeks and then stopped eating. So Then I switched it to Merick which she ate a few times and stopped. Soooo...I went home to see my parents. They have a Shi Tzu that they feed Mighty Dog. I mean I think it might be absolute crap...and it doesnt say for puppies. I dont know what to do, she likes the bad food...Any ideas? Preferably not home cooking.
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09-06-2007, 06:36 AM | #2 |
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| Are you feeding kibble or wet? Yes, Mighty Dog is more than garbage, so is Euk.
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09-06-2007, 06:42 AM | #3 |
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| I've never really had any problems with Tatum eating whatever I give her. I can't remember what the breeder sent her home with but we switched to Innova - which I read about on YT. She likes it but then again, I guess she's just not real picky. I have heard though that the more you switch around, the pickier they may become. Supposedly, a dog will not intentionally starve themselves so if you keep providing the food you want them to eat, they should eventually eat it. Maybe you'll need to hand feed and play games with it (I did have to do that at first with Tatum - for a few days) but eventually they should come around. Your baby's name is Skylar? I believe there's someone else here with a Skylar. It always jumps out at me because that's my 13 year old daughter's name. Great name choice!
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09-06-2007, 06:48 AM | #4 |
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| Yes her name is skylar there is actually a Skyla on here as well. I love people name for dogs! Back to the food... I give her wet. she will NOT eat her Wellness dry, even if I put it in water first. I need to get her on track. Any suggestions on what and how to do this.
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09-06-2007, 06:51 AM | #5 |
No Longer a Member | There is nothing wrong with Eukanuba. A lot of the "information" websites out there really are designed to promote 2 or 3 specific brands of non-grain dogfoods with exceedingly high protein levels, that are best suited to larger breed dogs. The two biggest complaints most people have with Eukanuba are: 1. that it contains by-products, and 2. that it contains corn. There is a lot of misinformation out there regarding by-products. There are federal guidelines that mandate what can be included in by-products, and no, they do NOT include beaks and feathers. It is basically the organs and stuff that people do not want to eat, but they are rich in nutrients that dogs need, and dogs like eating liver and hearts and stuff like that. As far as corn is concerned, there are two main complaints circulating: 1. that it is not digestible, and 2. that it causes allergies. The undigestibility of corn refers to whole kernal corn. If your dog ate whole corn kernals, yes, you'd probably see them come out the other end--that is simply because the skin prevents it from being dissolved. When it is ground, the skin is not a factor, and the starch and protein is processed just like any other grain. As far as allergies are concerned, the incidence of corn-related allergies is actually quite low. (And I do not have the links for this, but there is a poster on dogforums.com who has lots of useful links and information on this.) There is a really good discussion in Yorkshire Terriers for Dummies on dogfood, and it addresses the issue of by-products. That said, I have had Chloe on several different premium foods. We had a lot of trouble getting her to eat, and she lost a lot of weight. We just recently switched to Eukanuba, and she has never eaten so well in her life. PS. I have no desire to get into a dogfood debate, and I will not. I have read the politically-charged websites out there (dogfood project, "truth" about dogfood, and the 4d's) and I am not impressed by the information. You have to ask yourself where the information comes from, and what does it promote in the end. You watch your dog waste away on "premium" dogfoods, and you'd be happy to see her THRIVE on Eukanuba too. So, you feed what your dog does well on. What might be right for one, is not necessarily right for another. hope this helps |
09-06-2007, 06:53 AM | #6 |
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| I don't really have many suggestions but did want to tell you that she can eat wet all the time. It won't hurt her at all. In fact, it is probably better. Please brush her teeth or use Petzlife though. Have you tried Canidae canned?
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09-06-2007, 06:56 AM | #7 |
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| I havent tried canidae. I just feel like I shouldnt keep switching. My cabinets look like a grocery store! full of dog food! haha. I have never brushed her teeth but I had the groomers do it. I will def start myself, hope she doent bite my finger off!
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09-06-2007, 09:14 AM | #10 |
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| Biproducts DOES include beaks, feathers, hooves, blood, and all kinds of gross stuff. It is not just organs. I feed my pets Natures Variety raw medallions and premium canned foods and they specifically list any organ meat they use such as rabbit hearts, rabbit liver. I would stay away from anything that says "biproducts" because you have no idea what is actually in there. And, yes, corn is bad for dogs. So many dogs are allergic to it and it's just not digestible. It's a cheap filler. I would NEVER feed Eukanuba.
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09-06-2007, 09:28 AM | #11 |
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| My dogs love Eukanuba and beleive me, I have spent a ton of money on what people on here have suggested. there is nothing wrong with Eukanuba and the corn or corn meal is way down in the ingrediants. What's 'garbage" to one, is gold to another. AND, I might add, Eukanuba is made by proctor and Gamble under the strictest guidlines (the dry kibble) and not once has it been on any recall lists such as the Wellness, Merricks and some of the so called better brands. Last edited by Sugar's Mom; 09-06-2007 at 09:30 AM. |
09-06-2007, 09:55 AM | #12 | |
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What suits one dog may not suit another, however I would try every feeding program out there before resorting to something like eukanuba, or many of the other awful foods like it. Furthermore i'm suprised nobody has mentioned the company ethics of proctor and gamble, and the condition of the pets in their animal testing factories. I like to support independent companies, not worldwide domination. I also would not feed a dog food just because my dogs liked it, just like I don't eat nothing but ice cream for all my meals even though its my favourite food. As it is my dogs are raw fed and absolutly adore their food. | |
09-06-2007, 10:04 AM | #13 |
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| PS. I have no desire to get into a dogfood debate, and I will not. I have read the politically-charged websites out there (dogfood project, "truth" about dogfood, and the 4d's) and I am not impressed by the information. You have to ask yourself where the information comes from, and what does it promote in the end. You watch your dog waste away on "premium" dogfoods, and you'd be happy to see her THRIVE on Eukanuba too. So, you feed what your dog does well on. What might be right for one, is not necessarily right for another. hope this helps [/QUOTE] AMEN! I have never spoke up on dog food issues becuase of the debate, I do strongly beleive that different things work well for different people... I, too, feed mine what works best for them and have the most faith in my vet to advise me on this very stick situation.... Very well said.. d
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09-06-2007, 10:09 AM | #14 |
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| Eukanuba was on the menu foods recall list...Here's the link: http://www.menufoods.com/recall/EUKANUBA_Dog.htm Aside from using by-products, which do include beaks, feathers, etc., they conduct animal testing. The following are the ingredients for Eukanuba Yorkshire Terrier, straight from their website http://us.eukanuba.com/eukanuba/en_U...PID=75&TAB=IN: Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Brewers Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Fish Meal, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Flax Meal, Fructooligosaccharides, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extract. Different foods work for different dogs, but I personally would try to find a food that doesn't contain by-products.
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09-06-2007, 10:15 AM | #15 |
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| Maybe you could try coating her kibble with a little Mighty Dog, and some water? My Luna was really super picky about her kibbles, so ya know what I did? I mixed all the kibbles together and put them in her dish, and she ate them
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