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Old 06-18-2005, 10:36 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Avoid the e-mail scams!

Got this today and thought that I would pass it along to any breeders new or old that haven't seen this type of thing. I wonder what would happen if I were to just keep the check and cash it without sending the balance to New York??? E-mails look a lot like this:

Hi ,

I am Julian Frisk by name,i am interested in making a purchase on your
pet for sale in the classified ads section of the TEXAS STATESMAN ONLINE
NEWSPAPER. The reason I am sending you this email is to make final
reconfirmation and also to let you know that payment will be by
certified USPS (United States Postal Servce) Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check. In view of this I need you to email me any information that may be required to send the Money Order, as I do not want to send the Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check to a wrong location lest they gets into the wrong hands.

Regarding the shipping, I have a company that takes care of the pick up
of my consignments for me and ship to my destination anywhere in the
U.S.A, you do not worry about shipping, the company will send down a
representative to arrange the sales documentation and the pick up from your end for onward transfer to my destination.

I also want to alert you on the fact that you will be recieving an
overdraft Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check, which will cover the money for the pickup (pickup and shipping to the final destination) as well as the money to be paid to the company that will take care of the pickup and the documentation with you. So please, as soon as you receive the Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check, go and cash them immediately, deduct the money that accrues to you, and send the balance to the Head Office of the company that handles the shipment in New York City, New York State via the nearest Moneygramm or Western Union agent in your area. Deduct the Moneygramm or Western Union charges from the balance and send the remaining to New York immediately .


The Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check will be in your name to
make it easier for you to receive payment, deduct your money and send the
balance Via Moneygramm or Western Union as regards my earlier direction, please reconfirm your details one more time.I will give you the details of the
company that you will send the balance of the money to in New York
City, New York State once I get a reply and agreement that you will send the money to New York City, New York State Via Moneygramm or Western Union money transfer immediately you cash the Money Order OR Certified Cashiers Check.


Once the money is received by the agent in New York, the shipping agent
will contact you immediately to arrange the documentation as well as the
pick up immediately. So in view of the above, here are some of the details I
will need for final issuance of the USPS Money Order OR Certified Cashiers
Check to you.

(1) Full Names
(2) Mailing address, No P.O.Box Please
(3) Your direct Telephone Numbers(Home and Office and Cell)
(4) Your Final Asking price
(5) Acceptance of my offer and agreement to send the balance of the money to my shipping agent in New York City, New York State Via Moneygramm or Western Union Money Transfer.

Once you get back to me with all the above, the Money Order OR
Certified Cashiers Check will be issued out immediately and it will be sent to
you .

Finally i am making you a promise that the PET will be taken care of
just like a child and nutured like my friend,companion and pet at the same
time, never lacking any care and love from me at any point, i will also
send you pictures from time to time for you to see what love i it gets from
me. My address if you need it for the registration is:

LANA BILL
101 County Rd 75,
Bensenville, Illinois 60106.

I used to work for the United Nations and recently lost my hearing,due
to a mighty explosion at a site where we were evacuating Civilians in
Iraq. Am recieving treatment grants both from the American Government and also the United Nations. So you have to bear with me as I have hearing problems.

Please get back to me with the required informations immediately on my
personal email address: julianshomes@hotmail.com , i do not like
getting responses to this email address,so please email me to my personal and confidential email address: julianshomes@hotmail.com

Hope to hear from you immediately.



Regards,
Juian Frisk
julianshomes@hotmail.com


N.B. : I will pay you extra $50 to reserve this for me.
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Old 06-18-2005, 10:43 AM   #2
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Exclamation Money Laundering Scam

I'm not a breeder or anything, but I decided to find some information. So I Googled it!
I came up with this. It's a money laundering scam.

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Our friend (who breeds Shepherds) was recently contacted by TWO men (separately) through deaf relay services about purchasing Puppies. Both requested business be done through email. As her service is down, I have been taking care of her email business. One man posed as a retired United Nations Staff, wanting a pup for companion. He had very specific instruction about sending a money order, which should immediately be cashed, and the overpaymednt sent immediately via Western Union in YOUR name to his "London representative" who handles his "consignments" worldwide. (He offers $50 extra for you trouble.) He then states their regional rep will contact to make documantation and pick up arrangements. Everything SEEMED kosher, until he put off giving a VET reference, which we both require. He said he would let us know teh Vet info as soon as he recieved delivery. RED FLAG!!!!!

I 'GOOGLED" his name, and UN, giving the benefit of the doubt. Nothing!!
In fact, the address he gave was ficticious, and his name is not registered anywhere in Illinois, where he said he was.

I did, however, have information pop up on an AUSTRALIAN Dog breeders website forum, where MANY postings warned of this man and the scam.
Apparently, he sends a LOT of extra money, you endorse and cash in your name, send out via Western Union, and your payment is immediately cancelled, leaving you responsible for the entire amount when it's tracked down. OUCH!!!

I am posting his name(s) and known emails here in case anyone else "googles" AND MAY HOPEFULLY BE FORWARNED!!!!
hE GOES BY THE (ficticious) names Julian Fisk, and Julian Fiskk. His emails are julianfisk@yahoo.com, julianfiskk@hotmails.com, and julianshomes@hotmail.com.

He sends out mass emailings to breeders and advertisers of pups. Deaf relay services ensure the call cannot be traced without difficulty.

And guess what??!!! We recieved an email from the SECOND man, EXACTLY like the first.
In fact, some checking has proven it to be the SAME MAN!!!! Ray Wilson, or Raymond Wilson, ray4wilson@yahoo.com.

ALSO ... REPORTS OF SPYWARE ATTACKS WITH THIS SCAM!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!!!!
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Don't you wonder what good achievements these people could do if they just put all that time and creative thought into something worthwhile?
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That google search and that last sentence saying reports of spyware attacks' in the email are also something to watch out for.

It akes it even more important that no one opens attachments with ANY unsolicited email - the whole computer world is so ruined by scammers these days - I know it was bound to happen.... but it seems like there should be more ways to go after these people.

I got an email from EBAY yesterday saying my account needed updating...and am STILL not sure if it was the REAL ebay or a counterfeit...I figure I'll go update my account on my own and not take any chances...
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I got an email from EBAY yesterday saying my account needed updating...and am STILL not sure if it was the REAL ebay or a counterfeit...I figure I'll go update my account on my own and not take any chances...
I get about 3 of those a week. Those are ALL scams to get your account information. I just delete them now. Also get e-mails all the time about my PayPal account. Just another way for the unsuspecting person to give out important account information. STEER CLEAR!!!!
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I get about 3 of those a week. Those are ALL scams to get your account information. I just delete them now. Also get e-mails all the time about my PayPal account. Just another way for the unsuspecting person to give out important account information. STEER CLEAR!!!!
Thanks - that's what I told my hubby - he's been on Ebay looking at medical items ....and got scared he couldn't use Ebay when he saw that email - I told him just to contact THEM direct and see what they say - It sucks that you can't trust anyone like this and BOY do they look REAL !
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Some people will try everything to scam you. Last year on ebay my hubby was looking at a Harley. Best price he ever had seen, but they would only accept western union as payment (warning!) We corresponded and told them that we had to use paypal, well, that was not accepted we were told. Did some more digging and found out that they "stole" someones user name and were using it to scam people out of money. I reported them to ebay. Ebay will be the first one to tell you to not use western union as a form of payment because it can't be traced. I guess we just have to use our instincts and be on guard at all times. Usually, like they say, if it's too good to be true, it usually is...
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That google search and that last sentence saying reports of spyware attacks' in the email are also something to watch out for.

It akes it even more important that no one opens attachments with ANY unsolicited email - the whole computer world is so ruined by scammers these days - I know it was bound to happen.... but it seems like there should be more ways to go after these people.

I got an email from EBAY yesterday saying my account needed updating...and am STILL not sure if it was the REAL ebay or a counterfeit...I figure I'll go update my account on my own and not take any chances...
I get those from Ebay too, (not really Ebay) I just delete them.
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I get about 3 of those a week. Those are ALL scams to get your account information. I just delete them now. Also get e-mails all the time about my PayPal account. Just another way for the unsuspecting person to give out important account information. STEER CLEAR!!!!

Thats true Villette,they are scams i get them all the time,& i just ignore them,actually delete them...

Whats wrong world cant we believe in anyone these days its so sad...
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From: "smith powell" <smith_powell@keromail.com> [Add to Address Book] [View Source]
To: babyyorkie@comcast.net
Subject: AKC Yorkie baby
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 00:06:50 +0000
just now another in my email
"smith powell" <smith_powell@keromail.com>


Hello Seller,
As Regarding your advert of (AKC Yorkie baby)for sale.I am
interested in purchasing it.I would like to know the actual price you
areoffering to sell it and also it's present condition.Also the mode of payment
which he would be using would be by a Certified Check and also shipping
arrangment would be made with a reliable and capable shipping company whon can
handle the shippment.
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011011 got a message from an "operator" for a deaf person who said the same thing....I told her it was a scam and looked for the hoax and sent it to her...scams are rampant these days....
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