I think I just bought a puppy mill Pup :( - Page 3 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

TLC · 07-31-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Galatea

How big were the parents?

TJ's Mom was 6 lbs and Dad 4 lbs
Roxy's Mom was 5 lbs and Dad 4 lbs

peanut · 07-31-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

as she is a whopping 10 lbs of love

Lexi is a gorgeous little girl...Look at that beautiful face...how could you not love her

When you get a one that small sometimes you have alot of health problems, since you think he is a puppy miller, I would be scared to death to get one from him that small...

yorkiekist · 07-31-2007, 11:46 AM

Sounds like a horrible kennel!! But now that you have him, love him!!! He is just as deserving as a T-cup. The "chart" where you double the weight at 12 weeks is NOT correct. Its only a guidline. You would have to know the pedigree and all the dogs on BOTH sides of the pedigree, and have bred within these lines for a few generations to come close to the "double the weight at 12 weeks". Lynn

rrosenberry · 07-31-2007, 12:01 PM

I think you should report this seller to the authorities in your area. It's BEYOND obvious what they are doing. You have eyewitness accounts of the cages and how many breeds and litters they have..not to mention the wife and hubby have their own sites.
If your really want to save the pups.. as you stated.. STOP THE BREEDING. The only way to truly save them all.

For evey person who buys one out of sadness and guilt.. another litter is born..and so on and so on.....
And at the price you paid.. why would he stop.

puppy_Love08 · 07-31-2007, 12:46 PM

Hi. I'm new here. We are planning to get a Yorkie puppy in a few months, and I've been doing research on the breed as well as breeders. We just lost our Maltese a couple of weeks ago. He was only 5 years old but had numerous, on-going health problems and had to be put to sleep. After doing my research, I believe we bought our Maltese from a puppy mill.

It does appear that you have done the same. I can understand your wanting to return the puppy and get your money back. I can also understand your desire to give your puppy a good life, probably a much better life than what the puppy mill breeder can offer.

My personal opinion is that you should keep your puppy. Although we didn't have our puppy mill dog as long as we had hoped, I know we gave him a good life filled with lots of love and kindness. You can do the same for your dog. It's obvious that you love your dog and will take care of him. Who knows what will happen to the puppy if you give him back.

Enjoy him.

punkie · 07-31-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE

A standard Yorkie is 7lbs and under, how small do you want your pup to be?

Yes, I read about the standard, but I was looking for a 3-4 lbs adult dog. The breeder told me that the puppy would grow be that size and I guess he was lying. I know that I should be happy that the puppy is healthy, bt it's just not really fair that I didn't get what I wanted and I paid for something I didn't know I was paying for.

punkie · 07-31-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by candybaby

BUT the deed is done I say if you are not attatched to the puppy find it a home because you will most likely resent *sp* it because it is not what you originally wanted.

That is exactly what I was thinking too. There is no way that I'm returning him to the puppy mill, but I'm trying to find him a good home. Although everyday I spend with him, he grows on me more and I'm not really happy about that. But I won't let him go unless I'm sure that he is going to an immaculate new owner. I'm so angry at this breeder for what he did. I will know soon what happens I guess.

punkie · 07-31-2007, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

as she is a whopping 10 lbs of love

She's adorable

punkie · 07-31-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

Sorry you didn't get what you had hoped for.. but wow, that's really sad that you want to get rid of "it" (as you put it), because you believe it is going to be a whopping 7 or 8 pounds- which isn't even that big. Sometimes 7 or 8 lb dogs don't even look any bigger than my 4 and 5 lbers.

I'm sorry that you don't approve of my wishes, but he isn't the puppy I thought I was getting. I never said I wanted to "get rid of it." I like him just fine... I just don't think that he is the puppy "for me." Why is it so wrong of me to expect to get what I had originally bargained for? I believe I have that right.

punkie · 07-31-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by La Princesa

that means u kinda fell into the trap and got caught. He swindles you out of your money, Yes u saved on dog, but funded him to breed 10 more to sell.

Well as soon as I resolve my issue with him, I'm reporting him.

punkie · 07-31-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by littlewhip

Iam sorry you feel like you were decieved

but if you love and bonded with this pup already and if he is healthy, why not keep him, all 4 of my furkids are different weight, smallest is at 1.5 to almost 8pds of pure yorkie love

can we see pics of your new addition

oh and welcome to yt

Thank you for the support

That's very sweet of you. I'm attaching some pictures of him. He's very adorable and learning things so fast. He's a good dog and has a good personality. My boyfriend wants to keep him, but I just really had my heart set on something else. I guess I will know soon enough what I will be doing.

Galatea · 07-31-2007, 09:24 PM

He is so precious I can't stand it!

MyFairLacy · 07-31-2007, 09:41 PM

Aw he's so cute. I really think you should keep the puppy - you bought him knowing the signs were there that it was a puppy mill. He's cute and luckily is healthy. I think your puppy will be between 5 and 6lbs full grown which is still very small. Lacy is 7lbs. The next yorkie I get, I would like to have a smaller one -somewhere between 3-5lbs, but Lacy is really a great size and I wouldn't trade her for anything! She is the best dog

I wouldn't be so fixated on size - he may even surprise you and stay as small as you hoped.

Chelle · 07-31-2007, 10:02 PM

Nobody, not even a vet, can truly guess the weight a puppy will be all grown up. Initially my vet estimated my Eury was going to be 6 to 7 lbs, and since then the estimate has changed a few times. Her current estimate is 3 to 4 lbs (based on the fact that she is almost 5 months and about 2 lbs.)

I'm not sure how tiny of a dog you wanted, but remember if they are too tiny they tend to have many problems. Also, you may have had in your mind an ideal weight of like 3 lbs, but believe me 6/7 lbs is not all that big. To give you an idea, most cats are 10 to 15 lbs.

I agree you should report him as he promised you something he couldn't necessarily guarantee. The closest guarantee is the parents weight, but even then that doesn't always prove anything. I have a friend who's Yorkie is 11 pounds, her parents were 5 and 6 lbs... she got the growth gene LOL

To be honest I would say, wait and see... you're little one may just surprise you and be the tiny dog you wanted.

pepe mint · 08-01-2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by punkie

I'm sorry that you don't approve of my wishes, but he isn't the puppy I thought I was getting. I never said I wanted to "get rid of it." I like him just fine... I just don't think that he is the puppy "for me." Why is it so wrong of me to expect to get what I had originally bargained for? I believe I have that right.

I see how you feel that you have that "right" but what bothers me the most is that you actually paid for it., I mean..if someone leases a house from me, gives me their rent money, and a week later says "no, i don't like the floorplan, never mind"...well, i'm sorry but you signed an agreement and gave me money. bottom line, you should not have given him the money for the pup if he was not what you were looking for. you said that you saw all the signs there...but yet you still gave him a lot of money ( more than what I paid for my Maggie) and walked out with a puppy that you personally chose. if you were not happy you should not have handed him your money, and you should not have walked out with that puppy. so, as horrible as what he is doing is.,..you are partly at fault here. yes, you should report him. yes, he is horrible. yes, you should have walked away with no puppy. I looked for almost 6 years for a yorkie...all i ever found was backyard breeders and puppy mills. i REFUSED to buy one from them. i wanted a pup that was bred and raised in a home with a family. not in a cage...so that is what i got. period. if I had bought one of the puppy's at the flea market, or at the many many puppy mills and byb's that i visited, i would have no right to complain if the puppy didn't turn out to be what i was hoping for.

JMO

07-31-2007, 11:46 AM	#33
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	sorry, but love him anyway!! Sounds like a horrible kennel!! But now that you have him, love him!!! He is just as deserving as a T-cup. The "chart" where you double the weight at 12 weeks is NOT correct. Its only a guidline. You would have to know the pedigree and all the dogs on BOTH sides of the pedigree, and have bred within these lines for a few generations to come close to the "double the weight at 12 weeks". Lynn

07-31-2007, 12:01 PM	#34
rrosenberry & Bailey & Bella Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,164	I think you should report this seller to the authorities in your area. It's BEYOND obvious what they are doing. You have eyewitness accounts of the cages and how many breeds and litters they have..not to mention the wife and hubby have their own sites. If your really want to save the pups.. as you stated.. STOP THE BREEDING. The only way to truly save them all. For evey person who buys one out of sadness and guilt.. another litter is born..and so on and so on..... And at the price you paid.. why would he stop. __________________ Rhonda, Bailey, Josie and my angel Bella Rue' "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." ~Anatole France~

07-31-2007, 09:41 PM	#43
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	Aw he's so cute. I really think you should keep the puppy - you bought him knowing the signs were there that it was a puppy mill. He's cute and luckily is healthy. I think your puppy will be between 5 and 6lbs full grown which is still very small. Lacy is 7lbs. The next yorkie I get, I would like to have a smaller one -somewhere between 3-5lbs, but Lacy is really a great size and I wouldn't trade her for anything! She is the best dog I wouldn't be so fixated on size - he may even surprise you and stay as small as you hoped. __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

07-31-2007, 10:02 PM	#44
Chelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Daegu, S. Korea Posts: 138	Nobody, not even a vet, can truly guess the weight a puppy will be all grown up. Initially my vet estimated my Eury was going to be 6 to 7 lbs, and since then the estimate has changed a few times. Her current estimate is 3 to 4 lbs (based on the fact that she is almost 5 months and about 2 lbs.) I'm not sure how tiny of a dog you wanted, but remember if they are too tiny they tend to have many problems. Also, you may have had in your mind an ideal weight of like 3 lbs, but believe me 6/7 lbs is not all that big. To give you an idea, most cats are 10 to 15 lbs. I agree you should report him as he promised you something he couldn't necessarily guarantee. The closest guarantee is the parents weight, but even then that doesn't always prove anything. I have a friend who's Yorkie is 11 pounds, her parents were 5 and 6 lbs... she got the growth gene LOL To be honest I would say, wait and see... you're little one may just surprise you and be the tiny dog you wanted. __________________ Chelle - Momma to Eury , Sweets , Baby , and Tuffy http://www.dogster.com/dogs/590116

07-31-2007, 12:46 PM	#35
puppy_Love08 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: AL Posts: 465	Hi. I'm new here. We are planning to get a Yorkie puppy in a few months, and I've been doing research on the breed as well as breeders. We just lost our Maltese a couple of weeks ago. He was only 5 years old but had numerous, on-going health problems and had to be put to sleep. After doing my research, I believe we bought our Maltese from a puppy mill. It does appear that you have done the same. I can understand your wanting to return the puppy and get your money back. I can also understand your desire to give your puppy a good life, probably a much better life than what the puppy mill breeder can offer. My personal opinion is that you should keep your puppy. Although we didn't have our puppy mill dog as long as we had hoped, I know we gave him a good life filled with lots of love and kindness. You can do the same for your dog. It's obvious that you love your dog and will take care of him. Who knows what will happen to the puppy if you give him back. Enjoy him.

07-31-2007, 09:24 PM	#42
Galatea Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fresno Posts: 193	He is so precious I can't stand it!