The Hardest Post for me to write...
 

I have never thought that I would write this. But the time is here.... I cannot be patient any more and have to let go my frustration, disappointment, sadness, honesty and anger. I had been afraid of writing this for a couple months now. But I have waited for long enough, and I think I just need to let go all my feelings. So I am ready. So are you ready? Some of you might be very surprised about what I am going to say.... but I hope people will trust my honesty.

This is about Sylvan Yorkies. It is also about me.....

Bottom line is.... I never got Haruka's AKC registration paper from Sylvan Yorkies. I have sent her a receipt of Haruka's spay on January 30th. So I have waited for 5 months. I waited for 5 months before I spoke out today because I wanted to give her a chance.

I have sent her dozens of email, pms.. and also called her a couple times. It has been tough to hear back from her. This post is not a surprise for her because I let her know that I would write this if I didn't hear from her in a week. She sent me an email a week ago finally. I was happy to see her name.. and wondering what she had to say. No text. But there was a file which is something like photoshop file. It took us a long time to open because I didn't have the specific software. Anyway.. when we opened it, it was a pedigree with AKC logo on it. But it is NOT from AKC. SHe probably made it herself. Then of course, there is no registration number on this... so I cannot register Haruka.

I bet Sylvan Yorkies never registered the litter.

I have sent a few more emails after receiving this. I also told her that she was breaking our contract. There is no response from her. So I at least wanted to let people know.

She also knows that AKC registration is important to me.....


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People can have different opinion about AKC registration. But it is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy important for me. I have paid the price for AKC yorkie. I didn't pay the amount to buy a yorkie without paper. So please try to avoid telling me that papers are not that important. It is for me and Haruka.

Well.... I could let go about AKC registration. But what I am having difficult time is finding out why I am in this situation. Many of you know that I had always praised this breeder. I had so much respect to her. I have even visited her twice (8 hours drive) before deciding on buying a yorkie from her. I have always brought some gifts with me..... I have referred some people... to her... Then this is it.... being treated like this.

I have spoken to a couple people before deciding to write this post. Someone said that it was not worth for me to fight for. This post is not to fight... but let people know what happened to me...

Before I was upset, I started getting worried about this breeder.. I wasn't sure if she was doing okay. Before I bought Haruka, she was so friendly and it was easy to reach her. Things have changed... I even thought that she might be having some issues (financially or something) so that maybe that is the reason she couldn't register Haruka.. I thought about it so much. I also tried to give her some chance... but the fact is that she couldn't be honest with me. That upsets me the most.

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Many of you know about my journey to get a yorkie. it was an emotional one, but I felt good about taking time.

I was going to spend a good amount of money.... for a yorkie. So I waited about a year. During the year, I tried to find a perfect (there is no such a thing but) breeder. I had up and down road on the way, but I did a good research...

But I am in this situation......

I have traveled from Boston to PA three times within that year... spent money on gas, hotel, and airfare. I just needed to make sure...

But maybe I wasn't so good with observation.... and evaluation of the breeder... I am not sure..

I have enjoyed the time when I visited her. It was wonderful moment and great memory. Stacy is a wonderful person.... I guess she is not perfect.. as I am not perfect.. Then I am the one who fell in this hole...

So whatever I said before is all true. And this is all true too. So I am in mixed feelings... because I still care about Stacy and in somewhere in my heart, I still want to be her friend. I guess it might not be possible now after this thread... But I am telling my feelings and facts.. honestly..

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One of the biggest reason, I am writing this.. is not because of all about me. YT was the place for me... well.. it still is. YT really has helped me for long time.. to find a breeder, answer my all questions, and share my excitement... I went through the journey on YT. I also utilized a lot of resources on different people's posts. I sure did read all Stacy's posts before I decided to buy a pup from her.

So I have said so many wonderful things about her. It is so easy for me to share positive things. I hate to make negative one on people. But then if I am not honest, people might get in the same or similar situation. So here I am.... I think I expressed most of it. So I felt accountable to share also negative experience I had. That was the biggest reason..

My love for Haruka won't change even I cannot get an AKC registration... but I still cannot understand why I am in the situation..

Anyway.. thanks for listening...

And some of you.. (yes! you) have been very supportive during my difficult time. I really appreciate your support and non-judgmental feedback and suggestions... I am so glad that YT is here as well. Thank you.

Michiko, I am so sorry you are in this situation and for this length of time. I know Stacy is a member here and maybe she'll see it and make it right. I hope so.

If not, you said you have a contract, so if the AKC registration is as important to you as you say, (it is to me also) then I would take legal action.

I do hope this can be resolved without it though.

I am sorry you had to post a negative side to your experience. I hope the two of you are able to come together and fix the problem.

I am sorry for all you are going through. I know it must have been hard to write about it

Iam sorry you are having to go thru this , I to beleive its important to recieve what you were promised, and 5 mths is a very long time to wait, i sure hope things can be worked out for you both, wishing you the best.

:( :( :( :( I'm sorry too and hope you work things out. You deserve those papers and that really is a long time to wait - I hope it's a 'personal issue' thing too but man - a simple phone call explaining it would have been nice especially since you had such a good relationship previously.

Michiko--
I don't know what's going on between the two of you ladies regarding this situation. I'm sure Stacy has her side of the story too, but I know you both to be wonderful people and my heart goes out to both for having to deal with this situation. It saddens me (and you too, I'm sure) that you feel it has come down to you having to write this--I know is must have been hard for you to do and it is equally hard to read things about someone whom you've grown to respect as a person and breeder...especially when some of the things that have been written here are speculation and there is no proof of truth behind them. (Hopefully people will be able to look past those particular comments and allegations.) I understand that you are frustrated and upset with the situation and you are doing what you feel is neccessary. I hope that your efforts--both with this breeder and by writing this--yields the results you are looking for. I will remain hopeful for the sake of you both that this whole situation has been due to some huge misunderstanding. :)

Hugs to you and Haruka.:aimeeyork

Breeders have a right to uphold the proper standards with honesty and integrity. Its not right what has happened to you. You should have got what you paid for and were promised. If there was a problem with getting papers then you as the buyer had the right to be informed. I'm so sorry you were treated this way. Perhaps things can still be worked out.
Your love for your baby won't change, but your respect for certain individuals sure will. Please know that we are sorry you were lied to and we are here for you...Huggs!!!!

Thanks for all your kind words....

I really hope it is all worked out for you and Stacy too. You are both great YT members and I hate to see anyone upset.

Michiko.
I dont know both sides of the story as we have not heard from Stacy and I can tell that you are pained by having to tell this story. Have you been given any reason why you did not receive the papers? It sounds like you followed through with your end of the contract and got her spayed and 5 months is a very long time to wait for papers and you should have them if you were promised and paid for a dog with AKC papers. Like I said I dont know both sides but I do hope you and Stacy can work this out where it is a win win situation for both of you. Good luck.

I can't say I know how you feel because I don't know how you feel. Some people say that papers are not important. But, if you paid for a registered pup then you have the right to get what you paid for. I honestly don't know anything about Sylvan Yorkies and I have never heard of them but if you have waited this long and it is part of the contract then I would take a step further to get what you paid for.

I'm so sorry this happened to you :(

Michiko,
We have been waiting 18 months for RoxyJo's papers, and like you, did everything possible to get a response from the person we purchased her from. We never got one response back, nor would she answer her phone or cell phone so we just gave up. This is an entirely different person, but I understand your frustration and feelings of being let down and even lied to. In our case, the papers weren't that important. But, since they are to you, then I sincerely hope things will be made right for you. Your pain comes thru in your words and it is obvious you carefully thought out every word you printed. Hopefully, this thread will speed things up and settle the problem, whatever it is. Hugs from us all for a happy ending.

:( So sorry you are put in a position you wanted to avoid....it's so disappointing & sad to see an issue like this come to light between Y.T. members...but you are correct in doing so, there's no excuse for at least not phoning w/ some kind of explanation....I understand how difficult this is for you & I hope it gets resolved soon...

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Make a written complaint to AKC. They frown on breeders selling pups without papers..it hurts their bottom line...even when the pups are not for breeding or retirees..they like for the breeder to give papers and the new owner transfer into their name..keeps the bank acccount full.

This happened to me once and AKC refused to accept further litter applications until the breeder cleared the up the problem..at least this is what the breeder told me and sent a refund check because the puppy could not be registered due to some problem she refused to discuss..I, then had to write AKC and say the matter was settled..she then was able to register her next litter... BUT I got a the President of the YTCA at the time to write AKC backing me up...I want to add I was not a member of the YTCA.

I know there are 2 sides to every story but in this case, Michiko has done everything she should have and still did not get the papers. If the litter was never registered then the Breeder should be honest about it, if their is some other problem why not tell Michiko as she has spent a great deal of time and stress on trying to resolve this. I know how important the AKC papers are to her and if anyone knows how you can register a dog a year later please let her know.
I know when I got Pixie from Susan at Stardust Yorkies she gave me her signed registration and told me to transfer her to my name, I said that I didn't really care of she was registered and she said No you have to register her that's her birth certificate. Akc breeders want their dogs registered!

I can tell this was hard for you to write. I hope this works out for you. :hearts-xx

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Hi,

When I purchased both of my yorkies (from diff. breeders) at the time I purchased them I received signed papers to immediately send to the AKC to register them..they were both approximately 8-10 wks old at the time, the first female was registered pet quality and had to be spayed and the other was a full registration). I would never have bought them if they hadn't provided the papers at the time money exchanged hands.

I am going to be selling yorkie pups myself in a 8 wks., they are 3 wks. today. I have already registered the litter, and the AKC has sent me litter registration papers which has the AKC litter registration number and shows the mother's and father's lineage, they have also provided the paperwork to give to the new puppy owners to register the pup.

I am so sorry you are having this problem and I do think perhaps you should contact the AKC to see if she did register this litter.

Debbie
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Oh no! I am sorry you are having to go through this! YorkieRose gave some good advice. Maybe it will all get worked out before that step, but this might be the step it takes to get it worked out. Hugs to you!

I have followed your posts from the time you were Yorkie sitting for your friends longing for your own puppy. You really took learning about the breed to your heart and put so much time and effort into making sure you knew how to care for the new puppy and were 100% prepared for the responsibility.

I know you spoke to and visited several breeders before selecting your Sylvan's, you even waited for the parents you fell in love with to breed and have a litter, praying and hoping that litter will include a female. Then when Haruka was born, she was so small that you had to wait a few extra weeks before the breeder felt Haruka was ready to start her life with you.

If I'm not mistaken, your journey took over a year! I was glued to your "Count Down" threads and shead tears of happiness for you and Haruka when the two of you were finally united.

You have posted over and over and over how much you trusted and respected Stacy. That she truly was a wonderful mentor and friend to you. How responsible Stacy is as a breeder. How beautiful and healthy her pups are. I can understand your disappointment and how hurt you must be after all this. It's not just about the AKC papers, it's also about losing a beautiful friendship, loss of faith and feeling betrayed.

Because I know you from your posts, thread and PM's, I know you did all you could to reach Stacy and to get the paperwork in your hands. You really could not have done any more.

As stated on the other posts, we do not have Stacy's side of the story. I do hope this is a HUGE misunderstanding and your friendship will be restored.

It took courage for you to start this thread. I applaud you for your honesty and wanting to help and warn others from falling into a similar situation with any breeder they may choose. Get ALL paperwork before you head out that door with you puppy.

Hugs to you and Haruka!

Is it possible to start looking into legal action since this seller did not fulfill their contract and they accepted your money and the puppy is paid in full. It's not like they're waiting for the rest of their money to sign over the papers or anything.

I'd look into legal recourse in small claims court. You definitely should get your money back since you did not get the required AKC registeration papers.

All of you are so sweet. It brought me some tears. So thank you.

Yes this is just my side of story and I too would like to hear Stacy's side of story. I am just confused.... And Yes I have tried everything I could do at this point. I am not sure if she cares about this thread as I have told her ahead of the time and given her sometime to respond to my emails.

Stacy had a contract with me that she would send me an AKC limited registration paper after sending her a copy of spay receipt. I thought that she really wanted to make sure that people spay and neuter their yorkies...

Yes I needed a lot of courage to start this thread, but I am glad that I did so far :) SO thank you...

I too would like to restore my friendship with Stacy if I could... I also hope that people don't get into the same situation...

Thanks again.

p.s. Stacy was online at around 1 p.m. it says... well.. I am sure she read this.

I'm sorry you have to deal with this.Stacey needs to come forward and uphold her contract,if she doesn't ...well admin should be contacted for false advertisement. Good luck!

Michiko,

i know how hard this was for you to post because i know how much you looked up to Stacy when you first got Haruka. At the time Stacy (aka sylvan) seemed like a great breeder and friend. She answered all your questions and was very helpful. You signed the contract with Stacy because you trusted her. Its written there that after you got haruka spayed she would send you the registration papers. You upholded your end and she failed to do her part. For 5 months she's been avoiding the issue at hand and she hasn't given you a proper reason for it. I hope this thread makes her see how big of an issue this is for you and makes her finally give you the papers. One can only hope. Someone else posted that you should follow up with the AKC and see if she registered the litter already and also to file a complaint against her. I agree.

You know its hard for me to say this because i too have a Sylvan Yorkie. We got out pups only a week or two apart. Morgan and Haruka grew up together at Stacy's house (from different litters). I know exactly how you feel about losing touch with her and things not being the same. Our situations are similar but different. I knew what i was getting into when i purchased morgan, but at the time was too excited to question the reasons. I trusted Stacy too and the opinions of others on YT about her breeding practices. I will not go into my story of frustration because i feel it is partially my fault for not being smart enough or demanding enough (tho demanding might not be the right word here) to do anything about it. i wanted morgan so bad and didnt want to be turned down.

Also i think its good that you posted your negative experience so that others can read it and formulate their own opinions on Sylvan Yorkies. This should be done for all breeders/stores/whatever. Negative experiences can and should be brought up in a tasteful way so that other people who are thinking of purchasing from them can see all sides.

michiko i know you wanted to post this after saying so many good things about her so that other potential buyers will be able to read this before making their decision.

I applaud your courage. You know i am always around to talk and listen :)

Kellie

Isn't this the same breeder Timmy got his sick baby Lily from?
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=Sylvan