Fur changes?

[txshopper73]

Wow! Took me 10 + minutes to read all of the posts!

WELCOME TO YT, DEBR!!! Back to the original topic, my babies went through an "ugly ducking" stage (that didn't last long) and turned out to be swans!

Good luck and hope to see ya around!

[red98vett]

lol..I know it did !! We all mean well and get a little passionate I guess -

[LvMyYorki]

I didnt see anyone say anything about a reply being confrontational... was that the edit??? I hope no one on here is offended by me sharing my personal experiences... I thought that was the purpose of these forums... sharing. My point is that living in a small town is no excuse for a breeder not checking out the homes of her puppies. Even Laura stated that she lives in a small town and doesnt sell to pet stores or at soccer fields.

[diva pup]

[QUOTE=Laura] At the pet store in our town, they would sell puppies on consigment and for 10-20%. A person could take them there temporarily, or daily . We (no me personally) sell puppies at the soccer field, at the grocery store, etc.

WHAT????? I do live in a small town and I have seen people selling their pups in a grocery store parking lot out of the trunk of their car, I still think it is wrong and it is no more than an impulse buy for the people who get them.
When I go to the grocery I go to get food not a puppy. If I were a breeder I think I would want to know a little more about the family I was selling a puppy to other than what soccer team their kid plays for or what creamer they buy.Same goes for a pet store.
I am sorry that this seems confrontational but to me that is not a breeder I want to buy from, I do not know how to put it any other way.

[red98vett]

A friend of mine bought a lab puppy from a side of the road seller - his puppy had parvo from day one and never made it to 4 months old -

His DAUGHTER bought one at a flea market type of place and her puppie died also - When I see people selling on streets I just feel so bad - they have their puppies out in the heat of Texas and near traffic and exhaust from a busy street - it really makes me sad seeing it and I think it should be against the law to sell like this.

[Debr]

I had a post typed for whispersmom2 last night but by time I finished it i seemed to have timed out=/.

This pet store I got Dixie from doesnt always have puppies, and puppies arent their money maker. The majority of the store is fish & feed & supplies. They have the best/healthiest saltwater fish anywhere. I looked for 100miles and wasnt able to find anyone that came close to what these guys had. I did saltwater a ways back, raised seahorses in 1 tank & had a communal tank in another. I bought everything from these guys. They do have some birds, some reptile/amphibians and then the grooming shop. They have puppies maybe once a month. I used to be in there daily years ago for my fish (required brine shrimp to feed so used to get fresh daily for them).I have dealt with them for 8 years. We address each other first names-I know them well enough to know I do and can trust them.

They are a 4 household pet store, 2 sons, a daughter and the parents. The kids are 30+ in age. The kids all own some pair of dogs and the daughter also does some birds. Younger son is one who owns the pet store. When it originally opened in 1995 it was fish, feed & supplies, and reptiles/amphibians then later on some puppies and the birds, grooming shop. I have seen english bull dog pup once, mastiff's, G sheps, Yorkie , pom's and mini pins. I have seen the female yorkie and one of the mothers pom adults in her grooming shop, she takes them to work with her. They are not bad people, Dixie doesnt have her tail docked-they do not believe in cutting up dogs because some people think it looks pretty or improves their appearance.

I can say I think they did something superb with Dixie. She is the most outgoing, friendly, happy lil thing I have ever seen. She is always wagging her tail. She greets anything with a wagging tail and licking. I brought her home and she met my G sheps 50lbs-85 lbs with kisses and happy tail. She met my kids, my inlaws (all 8 of them) the 6 lil dogs the inlaws take on the family functions, the vet-all waggy tail kissy face. Nothing seems to startle her or make her fearful-sign of good nerves, socialization. She did jump and put her ears back when kids jumped into pool-but after the first 3 jumps she went to edge of pool to investigate. Quick recovery from something scary is a very good sign again of good nerves, socialization.

My only complaint with her right now-she is giving me a major hard time crate training her. I want to feed her in her crate (big dogs want to eat her food) and I wanted her to sleep in there. She howls like she is dying, and doesnt stop to breathe that I can hear-and it goes on and on. I am trying to increase her time-slowly. We are up to 30mins non stop howling, if i go longer I fear neighbors may call the cops that something is dying in here. Usually dogs will give up and go play with their toys-not her, she always wants to be held. That says to me she was not caged-she was not confined. She is also 98pct housetrained. Everytime I take her out she does no1 and no2, she has had 2 accidents-right at sons bedroom door(which is where I feed her for now).

I dont want to downplay the fact there are petstores that have mill puppies or mass breed or deal with bad breeders-Majority of them get their puppies in this way. The store I deal with is a unique one, they do truly love the animals. I do not agree with mills, bad breeding practices and backyard breeding. I feel America needs to start forcing pet people to become educated and major restrictions on breeding. People who do not meet the requirements to breed should be legally forced to spay/neuter their dogs. Those who are permitted to breed-should be inspected minimal bimonthly, all people purchasing a pup should be required to fill out a questionaire at 60 days and 1 year after purchase to make sure something isnt being hidden by breeder.

I only felt the need to clear up about the place I got Dixie from as people seemed angry, and wanted to shut every pet shop down-there are a few good ones out there. I know it is hard to find a good one but they do exist. Wanted to mention, we did have a mill puppy shop here a few years ago. It became big in the news here how a couple people got sick dogs-next thing the shop is gone. They were in operation about 6 months. The palce I deal with has been around 10years, and the parents have been involved with animals in the community for I believe 30+years. I never heard 1 complaint thru the dog club about them, alot of people use them for feed & supplies.

her hair is looking better by the day. Going to try 1 product at a time on her, trying for 3 weeks first one after that if not happy will switch. I think she is going thru her oily,clumpy stage since other folks pups have had similar. I brush her tons because when I can keep her brushed she does look very pretty. Just 30 mins later after she played she is back to raggy looking again.

[red98vett]

I think your very lucky to have a great puppy and good experiences - no one was angry at you - just the whole mill problem -

I know it was stated more than a few times that we know there are probably small pet stores that really do care - and living in a small town - you get to experience that - but the majority of Pet Stores are not caring - they sell for profit only... and the puppies are usually mistreated and often ill.

We get passionate about the plight of the MILLIONS of puppies who aren't as lucky as yours....sorry it was in your thread - but it's only because we care.

[red98vett]

I think your very lucky to have a great puppy and good experiences - no one was angry at you - just the whole mill problem -

I know it was stated more than a few times that we know there are probably small pet stores that really do care - and living in a small town - you get to experience that - but the majority of Pet Stores are not caring - they sell for profit only... and the puppies are usually mistreated and often ill.

We get passionate about the plight of the MILLIONS of puppies sold in Pet Stores who aren't as lucky as yours....sorry it was in your thread - but it's only because we care.

[dsf3]

My puppy got skin mites (scabies) 4 weeks ago. This caused him to bite and scratch his hindquarters unceasingly. We took him to the vet, and with treatment he is much, much better. Here is my problem: When he was biting he was also pulling out his fur. Now he is almost bald on his hindquarters. He has not been biting himself now for the 3 weeks, but his fur does not seem to be growing back! Will his puppy fur grow back? Will he be bald until his adult coat grows in? Or is he (heaven forbid) going to have a bald butt forever?

[YappyScrappy]

Originally Posted by Debr

I had a post typed for whispersmom2 last night but by time I finished it i seemed to have timed out=/.

This pet store I got Dixie from doesnt always have puppies, and puppies arent their money maker. The majority of the store is fish & feed & supplies. They have the best/healthiest saltwater fish anywhere. I looked for 100miles and wasnt able to find anyone that came close to what these guys had. I did saltwater a ways back, raised seahorses in 1 tank & had a communal tank in another. I bought everything from these guys. They do have some birds, some reptile/amphibians and then the grooming shop. They have puppies maybe once a month. I used to be in there daily years ago for my fish (required brine shrimp to feed so used to get fresh daily for them).I have dealt with them for 8 years. We address each other first names-I know them well enough to know I do and can trust them.

They are a 4 household pet store, 2 sons, a daughter and the parents. The kids are 30+ in age. The kids all own some pair of dogs and the daughter also does some birds. Younger son is one who owns the pet store. When it originally opened in 1995 it was fish, feed & supplies, and reptiles/amphibians then later on some puppies and the birds, grooming shop. I have seen english bull dog pup once, mastiff's, G sheps, Yorkie , pom's and mini pins. I have seen the female yorkie and one of the mothers pom adults in her grooming shop, she takes them to work with her. They are not bad people, Dixie doesnt have her tail docked-they do not believe in cutting up dogs because some people think it looks pretty or improves their appearance.

I can say I think they did something superb with Dixie. She is the most outgoing, friendly, happy lil thing I have ever seen. She is always wagging her tail. She greets anything with a wagging tail and licking. I brought her home and she met my G sheps 50lbs-85 lbs with kisses and happy tail. She met my kids, my inlaws (all 8 of them) the 6 lil dogs the inlaws take on the family functions, the vet-all waggy tail kissy face. Nothing seems to startle her or make her fearful-sign of good nerves, socialization. She did jump and put her ears back when kids jumped into pool-but after the first 3 jumps she went to edge of pool to investigate. Quick recovery from something scary is a very good sign again of good nerves, socialization.

My only complaint with her right now-she is giving me a major hard time crate training her. I want to feed her in her crate (big dogs want to eat her food) and I wanted her to sleep in there. She howls like she is dying, and doesnt stop to breathe that I can hear-and it goes on and on. I am trying to increase her time-slowly. We are up to 30mins non stop howling, if i go longer I fear neighbors may call the cops that something is dying in here. Usually dogs will give up and go play with their toys-not her, she always wants to be held. That says to me she was not caged-she was not confined. She is also 98pct housetrained. Everytime I take her out she does no1 and no2, she has had 2 accidents-right at sons bedroom door(which is where I feed her for now).

I dont want to downplay the fact there are petstores that have mill puppies or mass breed or deal with bad breeders-Majority of them get their puppies in this way. The store I deal with is a unique one, they do truly love the animals. I do not agree with mills, bad breeding practices and backyard breeding. I feel America needs to start forcing pet people to become educated and major restrictions on breeding. People who do not meet the requirements to breed should be legally forced to spay/neuter their dogs. Those who are permitted to breed-should be inspected minimal bimonthly, all people purchasing a pup should be required to fill out a questionaire at 60 days and 1 year after purchase to make sure something isnt being hidden by breeder.

I only felt the need to clear up about the place I got Dixie from as people seemed angry, and wanted to shut every pet shop down-there are a few good ones out there. I know it is hard to find a good one but they do exist. Wanted to mention, we did have a mill puppy shop here a few years ago. It became big in the news here how a couple people got sick dogs-next thing the shop is gone. They were in operation about 6 months. The palce I deal with has been around 10years, and the parents have been involved with animals in the community for I believe 30+years. I never heard 1 complaint thru the dog club about them, alot of people use them for feed & supplies.

her hair is looking better by the day. Going to try 1 product at a time on her, trying for 3 weeks first one after that if not happy will switch. I think she is going thru her oily,clumpy stage since other folks pups have had similar. I brush her tons because when I can keep her brushed she does look very pretty. Just 30 mins later after she played she is back to raggy looking again.

WHAT!!!!! YOU WATCHED SEA MONKEYS BEING EATEN ALIVE!! YOU ARE SICK!! (just kidding....hahaha)

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by dsf3

My puppy got skin mites (scabies) 4 weeks ago. This caused him to bite and scratch his hindquarters unceasingly. We took him to the vet, and with treatment he is much, much better. Here is my problem: When he was biting he was also pulling out his fur. Now he is almost bald on his hindquarters. He has not been biting himself now for the 3 weeks, but his fur does not seem to be growing back! Will his puppy fur grow back? Will he be bald until his adult coat grows in? Or is he (heaven forbid) going to have a bald butt forever?

WOW - your vet did tell you you also have to treat your house also ? They can be really hard to get rid of - I feel bad for you - they're just awful I heard and can bite not only your poor yorkie but people too ! On his hair - I would think it will grow back - but it also takes a long time to get rid of those nasty creatures -

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by Debr

I feel America needs to start forcing pet people to become cated and major restrictions on breeding. People who do not meet the requirements to breed should be legally forced to spay/neuter their dogs. Those who are permitted to breed-should be inspected minimal bimonthly, all people purchasing a pup should be required to fill out a questionaire at 60 days and 1 year after purchase to make sure something isnt being hidden by breeder.

I only felt the need to clear up about the place I got Dixie from as people seemed angry, and wanted to shut every pet shop down-there are a few good ones out there. I know it is hard to find a good one but they do exist. Wanted to mention, we did have a mill puppy shop here a few years ago. It became big in the news here how a couple people got sick dogs-next thing the shop is gone. They were in operation about 6 months. The palce I deal with has been around 10years, and the parents have been involved with animals in the community for I believe 30+years. I never heard 1 complaint thru the dog club about them, alot of people use them for feed & supplies.

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Debr:

I think your ideas about restictions on breeding, etc. are great ones. I don't like the fact that dogs are considered a "product" and are no more than "property" with a dollar value under the law! They are so much more than that!

I think what your town did to shut down the puppymill pet store was wonderful too. I think yours is a oerfect example of the "right way" to go about ridding the country of puppymills. I agree with yiu that making the broad generalized statement that ALL PET STORES get their puppies from puppymills is a disservice to everyone we are trying to help.

Having the PASSION to stop puppymlls is wonderful, but we need to focus that passion and the resulting energy in the right manner to be successful.

[Luvmypupster]

That's the great thing about this forum, we can all have our own opinions! IMO the bad ones far out number the ones whom "might" be getting their "stock" from a reputable breeder. It's just not worth the gamble. It is a very widespread oinion by many people that pet shops are not a good source for a puppy purchase. I'm pleased to see that we can now talk about this with out it turning into a heated topic. We all have our own opinions on it and it doesn't look like any of our opinions are changing. LOL

[Lady of Yorkies]

I live near Branson, Missouri but I'm from Tucson, Arizona. Last year during July we went back to Tucson for a vacation and I thot I'd get a female out there so the bloodlines would be less likely to cross. Uhuh. She came from Arkansas. I thot I could go to the breeder when we got back home and save a lot of money. Buy direct from the breeder. The price they were asking was $2500. I figured that even if I had to pay a lot to the breeder it wouldn't be that kind of mark up. That is my personal gripe with "pet stores", the money. All of my babies I have bought straight from their breeders. The only one I wouldn't recommend (each for their differences) is the one I bought Lady from. She's the sweetest little dog but I wish I hadn't done it. Sylvia