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Old 01-28-2007, 08:08 PM   #1
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Okay, it seems everyone hear knows my story. Scammed by a breeder because I was very ignorant on my knowledge of Yorkies. Wanted a tiny female in hopes of someday getting a male and having a litter a year. I do this with my German Shep. female. Gave our stud to the President of the Schutzhund club so I can still use him free of charge. My dilema. My little girl is only APR reg. (which I now know is pretty worthless). The breeder was so dishonest about so many things that I really don't know much about this girl. She is still real sick, which I am working on. She has no hair, as I have posted a pic of her. From what I have been reading, it could be bad genetics and that's the best she'll ever do. My husband tells me she doesn't even look like a Yorkie. Her body seems to be getting longer by the day. And worse yet, I paid a fortune for her $1,500. So my dilema. Should I get her healthy and bail out and sell her. Obviously for a lot less money as I would have to be honest with any potential new owner. But she doesn't appear to have characteristics I would want to pass on to puppies. If her papers are correct she is 6 mos. old. If the vet is correct (based on her teeth) she is 16 weeks old. She currently weighs 2.2 lbs. I love her but more out of "I need to save her". I have other dogs and she gets along fine with everyone including our new kittens that Santa brought. So I can't just keep saving the world. Any advice?
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:28 PM   #2
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Keep her as a pet. When you are ready to purchase a female to start a breeding program, you'll need to contact your local chapter of YTCA to find a reputable breeder who can help you choose the right female and male. Then you will also have a mentor for future reference. Good luck.
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:33 PM   #3
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Keep her as a pet. When you are ready to purchase a female to start a breeding program, you'll need to contact your local chapter of YTCA to find a reputable breeder who can help you choose the right female and male. Then you will also have a mentor for future reference. Good luck.
I agree with this. sounds like she has made herself comfortable in your home and so have your other pets. keep her as a pet. do some research, and find a good healthy yorkie if you intend on breeding. but you really need to make sure you are knowledgable about the breed, as well as registrations and all of the stuff that goes along with it before breeding. It will be very rewarding if you do it the right way and do all the research you can.

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Old 01-28-2007, 08:37 PM   #4
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Personally, when I make a committment to adopt anything, be it human or animal, then I honor my committment and do whatever it takes to give that little life a fighting chance. I would never adopt a human baby and then throw up my hands should the baby get ill, and give it up again. I just wouldn't be able to live with myself. Same thing goes for an animal I've committed to adopt. Regardless of how much trouble it is, I would never give it up again.

If you really want to breed, I wouldn't do it with this little girl. She sounds too small and it takes so much out of these little dogs that she might not live through it. I would keep her strictly as a pet and eventually invest in another dog if you want to breed, and I wouldn't do it with a tiny. They are just too fragile. It would kill me if something were to happen to my baby. You should go for a larger Yorkie female dog and breed her with a smaller male if you want to try for small puppies.

I don't think you can go into buying these little pups just for profit purposes. You have to really love them, and then you may want to breed. You should then learn as much as possible about breeding. Go the this website ( http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq.htm) and read what she says about breeding and educating yourself on it. It's not a walk in the park by any means. You'll find that the babies take a lot of work, and the new mother, being small, will need special care as well. You'd better be sure you want to put yourself through the wringer to do this. Yorkies aren't like other dogs when it comes to breeding. But your first motivation should be love for the dog, not love for the money you'll make. If you only love the money, then you may not have enough committment to go through what you have to to breed these dogs.
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My .02:

Try to separate the money issue from the moral issue and do what's best for the pup. Write the price you paid for her off as a bad investment on your part. If you can sue the breeder and get it back, that's fine. But looking forward, do you want to keep her or not? If not, give her to someone who is willing to pay the medical expenses and give her a good life. If you can't find anyone who wants to take a chance, spend what you can afford to get her healthy again. Then charge someone only what you paid for medical expenses. If you start trying to get part of the $1,500 back, you're just passing on the ripoff to someone else.

Good luck. It's easier to offer advice when it's not my money!
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Do you have pictures posted of her anywhere? You have to do what's right for you. Have her fixed and either sell her or keep her...Id love to see pictures of her though if you have any...

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i would love to see pics of her too.....i think i would keep her if you could. otherwise, donate her to a good home. i dont think i would try and sell her knowing the issues she has, unless you could fix them before you rehome her....good luck with everything!!
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I wouldnt worry about breeding her, she needs to get healthy. That should be your main concern right now, I noticed you mentioned this in a few of your other Threads (I would like to some day breed my little female (a litter a year). The litter a year part....... It would be best to have a litter every other year than every year. Mom needs to get her strenth back in between litters. Id love to see pictures of her.
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I agree with the post that stated you need to seperate the money from any other issues with this dog.

If you love her keep her as a pet have her spayed. She is a mite small to breed.

Look for another baby after you get her well. Study the different registries and get as much knowledge of the breed as you can. This will make you a informed buyer and less likely to make a mistake the next time.

You will know what questions to ask and have a better idea of what to look for in a breeder and your new puppy.


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Has your girl thats losing all her hair been checked for mites.
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She isn't losing her hair, she just doesn't have any. LOL. A few scraggly hairs on top of her head and that's about it. I am not going to breed her. I just would like to breed a Yorkie pair some day. I have a top of the line Germ. Shep. that I breed every other heat cycle. She has taken this whole year off so I will breed her again this summers' heat cycle. I already have a waiting list for her pups so I never have to advertise. I will continue to get her health in tip top shape. All my animals get the best care. I love them dearly. My Yorkie sleeps in my bed right at my head. Still hacks and coughs all night long, but we are treating the coccidia and taking a break from the kennel cough antibiotic. Here is her picture again.
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I say...get her well.....spay her.......and then sell her or give her to a very nice person that appreciates her size......

If she is not what you need in your program, and you are not interested in keeping her as a pet......then why not let some other nice family member have her to love on......I know there are a few on YT that might be interested in a "tiny" little girl......she is not going to be bred anyway....so why not???

Chaulk up the 1500 as lesson learned, and find a reputable Yorkie person that has the type of Yorkie you are looking for....

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She isn't losing her hair, she just doesn't have any. LOL. A few scraggly hairs on top of her head and that's about it. I am not going to breed her. I just would like to breed a Yorkie pair some day. I have a top of the line Germ. Shep. that I breed every other heat cycle. She has taken this whole year off so I will breed her again this summers' heat cycle. I already have a waiting list for her pups so I never have to advertise. I will continue to get her health in tip top shape. All my animals get the best care. I love them dearly. My Yorkie sleeps in my bed right at my head. Still hacks and coughs all night long, but we are treating the coccidia and taking a break from the kennel cough antibiotic. Here is her picture again.
Awww, she's precious I'm sure once she's healthy she'll be a perfect pet. I know it's hard and frustrating to have a sick puppy From her markings, I think your vet is right on the money, there's NO WAY that she's 6months old

Anyway, I'm concerned that the antibiotic for the kennel cough has been stopped. Did the vet do that? He should know better, really. Pnuemonia can easily set in if this KC is not nipped in the bud, from what I've read. Plus, not doing the full course of an antibiotic can kill off just the "good" bacteria in their system and let the bad germs run rampant I'd get a second opinion if you can on this.

I agree with whoever said to start at YTCA.org. They're the BEST!
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The vet said that the antibiotics to treat the kennel cough cancel out the antibiotics to treat the coccidia. We had been treating the kennel cough for a few weeks but then the loose stools started so it appeared the coccidia was getting worse. I guess I will have to get a second opinion. The way it was explained to me is that you couldn't treat both at the same time. Her little cough is so bad at night. During the day I don't really hear it much. I feel so bad for her.
About her hair. It seems that from what I am reading she has probably got some bad genetics and will never have a nice coat. I want to get her into the groomers as soon as she gets well. She stinks. LOL
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The vet said that the antibiotics to treat the kennel cough cancel out the antibiotics to treat the coccidia. We had been treating the kennel cough for a few weeks but then the loose stools started so it appeared the coccidia was getting worse. I guess I will have to get a second opinion. The way it was explained to me is that you couldn't treat both at the same time. Her little cough is so bad at night.
Wow, I never heard of that Luna had both when we got her as well (she's a pet store baby ) and we treated both, and she did great, though the KC was stubborn and she had to do a second round of different anitbiotics (first was amoxicillin, second was clavamox). After 2 days on the clavamox, the coughing got so much better. She was keeping us up all night the poor baby I would just sit in the rocker and hold her.

Poor stinky girl! I guess a bath would be a bad idea right about now, she'd probably get a chill, but could you wipe her down with baby wipes really fast and then wrap her in warm towel from the dryer? That might help her stinkies.

I would definitely go after that breeder for the vet bills at least.
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