David of Fox News
 

Thanks for the reminder David. Did you see Mr. Moore's post here explaining his lawsuit with the Mallory lady? Did you check the records to see if her lawsuit was for getting sick puppies or another reason like Mr. Moore said. Also since you were able to see her place, does it look like she is a puppymill as well. That is the impression I got after hearing Mr. Moores side of the story.

I was wondering the same things. I wonder will FOX answer Mr. Moore questions? Please show us you are doing what you said you were going to do. Investigate.

Uncalled for
 

This type of insinuation has no place on a public forum. Future remarks of this level should result in his being banned.

I don't think they had a problem with it but whatever. Do what everyone told me to do :thumbup: Lighten up

That's not a laughing matter. It is vulgar, coarse and totally out of place on a public forum.

I thought it was funny! This thread actually needs a little ADULT hummor on it.
Is this and adult, or children site?
I was kind of under the impression it was adult.
Also to add....no fowl language was used in his statment!

There are people on this site who are under 14. There is no age limit to be on this site, but it is the internet and people should be prepared for the worst. IMO dobie's remark was just a joke and in no way serious :)

Mr Moore:

In response to your post, I think you are full of crap--and that's as politely as I can put it. I've purchased dogs from breeders, and even a pet store and those dogs DID NOT GET SICK WHEN THEY CAME TO MY HOUSE. I think it's appalling and arogant of you to blame the person who buys these puppies from you only to have them a matter of hours sometimes before they have HUGE medical problems.

And if in fact it was from the puppy being transported from your "facilities" to their home -- why are you not held responsible for that? You ship your puppies.. so isn't that YOUR fault.. not the new owners.

I just find it sick that even if ONE of your dogs, let alone the countless number of them that have been reported severly ill or that DIE w/in days, that you do not make it right with these customers. You claim you're out of town? What kind of breeder would do that to a concerned and distraught new puppy owner? You can defend yourself all you want, but I do not agree with what you're doing and find you to be truly deplorable. I'm saddened by the lives that these puppies and even WORSE your breeding dogs have cooped up in cages without any love and clearly not enough medical attention.

It really is shameful.

Ms. Co Momma - I don't understand why a jury would award her that kind of money either. I was pretty shocked to say the least! Ms. Bushman used to be a paralegal and she apparently had some pretty good connections in finding herself some pretty high profile criminal lawyers for a civil suit (that obviously want media attention). Since I already explained how much money she made on the dogs that I fronted her, she really made a point to let the jury know that her fabulous life style with BMW's, horses, motorcycles, property in Colorado, the hugest diamond ring on her finger I have ever seen on anybody in real life, etc... I guess the jury felt sorry for her that I took that kind of income away from her. That's my theory of course along with a few other theories that I would rather not speculate on. Also to answer your question about how I make a living. Yes - I know you don't approve - but selling puppies is what I do for a living to support a wife and four children. My job isn't a 9-5 job. I work 17-18 hours a day, 7 days a week and when I go out of town I have other people that take over. As you know yourself raising puppies is far from easy and I work my tail off to keep these puppies in the best conditions and health. Our whelping unit is better than most veterinarian facilities and that's a fact. No - I'm not a vet but I think I have just as much or maybe even more experience with puppies then most vets do. When you live and breath any job and put the kind of hours I do for over the past 20 years I would say you become a professional. So yes - I vaccinate, worm, dip, clip, groom, and whelp my own dogs. This is not against the law and the last time I checked - either is having a puppy farm. I agree there are many puppy mills out there that the dogs are in terrible conditions and they do need to be closed. My kennel is not in that category. I do my best to take good care of all my animals and I think the Houston SPCA will agree with that (as you all already know). You might think it's wrong for me to make a living the way I do and your entitled to your opinion. I grew up in Ireland on a farm and my family was not well off by any means. I didn't have the priviledge of even finishing high school let alone going to college because I was needed at home to work on the farm. I know a lot about animals - all kinds of animals not just dogs. I have a lot of respect for animals and I do care about animals despite what you all think. The puppies don't leave my yard sick but like I said before we are dealing with live animals here .... I have gone into this far too many times to get into it again. Anyways... I know I'm no fan of the majority of the people on this sight but I do feel I am entitled to make a living just like anybody else and yes I like my job (most of the time) but it gets pretty difficult trying to keep up with a whole lot of bashing going on. I'm no scam artist that is out to scam people. I'm just an ordinary guy trying to make a living the best way I know how. It is pretty hurtful to think that most of the people on this sight including the media want to try and destroy a whole family's life. I do my best to fix any unfortunate situation with the pups that may arise but I can't help it if a person doesn't want to follow the contract that they themselves have signed.

Your alright Co Momma. You seem to approach things with a bit of class even though you don't agree with how I make a living. I do respect your opinion and I do appreciate the fairness you have shown on this sight (most of the time). I am only coming on to this sight because I do want you people to hear my side even if you don't like it. I have spoken to many other breeders and kennels, etc. about interviewing with the media and I have been told that they really twist things up and make a person look very bad with their cameras and editing, etc... I would like to tell my story but I need more than 3 minutes and I quite frankly don't trust the media. It is very obvious that David at Fox 26 is not a fan of mine and I don't feel I will get a fair shake. They are only interested in telling the dirt and unless he is willing to interview some happy customers I don't think want to talk to him.

That statement was rude and uncalled for...dobie, are you the 14yr old on this site the one everyones talking about???

We DO have open minds. But what you need to understand is that just because every single dog that has come out of his "kennel" is not sick.. that does NOT MAKE IT OKAY to do the things he has done to other people who have received sick dogs. There is no way that having a dog for a short while could make them that deathly ill... that is just another excuse. How would you feel if your dogs had gotten to your house for a few hours, gotten ridiculously violently sick and then died? Leaving you with the vet bills, the heartache, and you have paid for a dog three times over that died?

It is WRONG on all accounts, no matter how you slice it.

You continually skim over the major issues. Why are you selling and reselling sick puppies and then not making the situation right when one dies or becomes horribly ill?

I don't feel bad for you because people are bashing you, because clearly you have no good customer service or care for the clients that you've hurt. Even with my own personal feelings on puppy mills.. I just think that you are a terrible business person and it's unfortunate the dogs are the ones that get the brunt of it.

I really don't mean to sound mean towards you and I have apologized to you over and over. Is it possible that maybe your pups picked up a virus from your place? Can you show me with some kind of proof that it is my fault? What exactly is it that you want me to do for you??? I'm really tired of listening to you so what is you want??? (be a realistic please). By the way I am not greedy. I work very hard and I am barely making ends meet. It's very expensive to maintain these puppies. And any professional in this industry can tell you how hard it is to make a living in this business. If I thought I could support my family someway better I would. Because quite frankly headaches from people like you make my life less than pleasurable. I don't know what else you want me to do for you that I haven't already done.

Have you ever met me or purchased a puppy from me?

Mr. Moore,
Thanks for answering my questions. Do you have pictures of your facilities and how the puppies are kept, some of the puppies you have there right now, your whelping facilities, etc. I truely have never had any experience with an operation the size of yours and I would like to see pictures so I can get an accurate idea of how these puppies live. You wouldnt be letting the media in and you can decide what to show or not show. I have an awful picture in my mind of some of these places and if you say yours is different, can you please show us what you mean. I understand if you dont want to for legal reasons.

That is a real good idea. I will work on doing that tomorrow and I will post them here for you. Actually it may be on Friday because I have many appointments tomorrow. But I think that is a fabulous idea and I will work on it.

A couple more questions for Mr Moore.
1 After you get your puppies from Ireland or wherever you export them from, what testing do you do on them to make sure they are healthy before you sell them.
2. On an average, what would you say the time frame is from the time you bring the puppies here to the time they go to their new homes. In other words, how long are they living in the cages?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

That question was directed to you Yorkie Girl! I don't think we have met have we? Unless you have actually had a bad experience with me I think you are a bit out of line. Your entitled to your opinion but I'm really not interested in your opinion unless you have actually personnally had a problem with one of my dogs.

Look, I am upset at you, because you never showed me any sympathy and you were more concerned about the other businesses or whatever it was that you were doing at the time. When I called you, you would hang up the phone on me and you even lied to my attorney (so who cares if he's a relative of mine, he's still an attorney) You didn't care about the 1st puppy I got and when I returned it I returned it to Dawn, not you. Where were you at?? out of the country...right??? That is very bad customer service. Then I was lied to over and over again, I tried to get another puppy a replacement but everytime I was going to meet Dawn or Anne at the airport, one of them would call me the day before and said that the puppy I picked out (and was suppose to be held for me) was already sold. Yes that really upsets me, then you tell me that I am not intitled to another puppy because of my additude... well what do you expect, I have little kids too you know and they where asking me about the puppy. And No, my house was not harboring anykind of virus or bacteria that caused both of the puppies to get sick. The first one couldn't even walk, didn't know how to eat or drink. I was lied to about it when I went to get it I was told it was 8 weeks old then I found out when I got her home that she had to of only been 4 weeks old. I returned her and was lied to once again, said that the puppy was going to the vet and the vet said it was just home sick according to dawn, but it DIED!!!! I know alot about animals too and I know that there are incubation periods to diffrent diaseases like kennel cough is 7-10 day incubation period and coccidia is 3-5 days so it had to of come from your place bud. What would make me happy would be for you to maybe think about taking on a different career one that is honest and not so dark, I think those poor dogs that travel back and forth should be found indoor loving homes with families that can give them one on one love and attention. I am not saying that you have ever neglected your dogs or abused them I only stated that both of the dogs that I got from your place where deathly ill. Thats all.

who are you directing your question towards??

Oh and Mr. Moore
 

I wanted to thank you
(the only thing I would thank you for)

because of your malpractice of dogs, I was able to get (while in the whole arguemental process of trying to get another puppy from you for replacement) I was able to get my cutie pie chihuahua you see pictured off to your left, she came from a breeder of ONLY chihuahuas and I NEVER had any health problems and she has NEVER been sick, Thank God. If it wasn't for you I would of never gotten my baby.

Co. Yorkie Momma

1. When they come in they have to have a current health certificate by a veterinarian from the country they originate from.

2. When the dogs arrive from they have to be checked by APHIS/Dept. of agrigulture before they are released from customs. When the dogs arrive into my kennel they are automatically wormed, sprayed for parasites, and revaccinated. My breeding dogs do not live in cages. They are in long runs 10 x 30 concrete runs that are washed down twice a day. The puppies have grassed exercise pens to run in outside (wheather permitting). At night and on not so nice days the puppies are in holding pens in a temperaturized controlled building. There pens have automatic waterers and they have food at all times. Between going in and out on a daily basis they are handled quite a bit. To answer your question about how long I have the puppies the average is 3 days - 14 days before they end up in with permanent family. The puppies I import come from small operations not puppy mills like everyone thinks. I have seen these places myself and personnally know most of these breeders some of them are my family members in Ireland and England.

Well since it concerns me then I think I can read it and reply to it any way I please.

You know what that is what the problem is I think, because young puppies that haven't received there full set of vaccinations which is usually about 3 sets, 3-4 weeks apart. Puppies can pick up illnesses in the dirt and grass, parvo can be in the environment for up to 5 yrs! I know alot about dogs I have studied them since I was 7 yrs old and I was a veterinary assistant for several years. So that might be something to look at especially if you have puppies there now.

Thank you!!

If you don't care about my opinion, that's fine but I'm still entitled to it. No, I have never done business with you, because I would NOT do business with someone who I've read so many terrible things about. It does not take a rocket scientist to know the kind of organization you run and I would simply never do business with a breeder such as yourself.

You were rude in your post towards me, and if you're that rude to someone you've never even met I can only imagine how you are with your unsatisfied customers.

I am going to add a quick comment....You have only read about bad things, have you ever gone to see for yourself? There are always 2 sides to every story.
I am actually glad to see what Brushy Creek has to say. We are finally getting to hear the other side. It finally is not one sided. You seem to have your mind made up.

ValB-- I've done a lot, a lot, a LOT of research regarding good and bad breeders. I know that if there are multiple reports of sick puppies to stear clear. I just don't see how there is another side to the story -- he has sold sick puppies plain and simple. In my opinion, there is no excusing that and wether he breeds 10,000 puppies a year or 10.. if they are sick, they are sick and it's inexcusable.

I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion on this guy.. and if anyone wants to believe he's legit that is their business, but I will not advocate what he does and won't feel sorry for him getting talked about on forums badly because of all that has happened.

I think Brushy Creek spends so much time posting and reading on this board....time he should be spending taking care of his sick puppies!