I am NOT trying to start a fight.

[Amber_lv]

Welcome Mandy i was wondering are you from 4 women talk? If so then i know you yay! If not sorry for the mistake lol.Well i wanted to say a lot of us are here to help each other and learn things we don't know and for the most part we do really well we are a family here and we care deeply for the yorkie breed but we also care about the well being of the other members here. We like to give advice to new members or if we're new we like to get advice but remember this is a public forum and some people don't know how to say what they mean without being rude or contradicting and we all need to remember that helping each other is what this site is here for. You will always have those few people that like to stir up the pot we usually just ignore them and move on. I do hope you like it here. There are a lot of great members willing to do just about anything to help you and your baby so welcome to our family!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by mandy22

The comment was this........

"Please don't get a Yorkie that is too small. Just as humans must weigh a minimum amount, so must Yorkies. If they weigh less than about 4 pounds as adults, their organs become too tiny to be healthy. There is no such thing as a "tea-cup" Yorkie, and responsible breeders won't sell them.

You wouldn't want a 90-pound adult human, so don't get a 3-pound adult Yorkie!"

I remember feeling much as you describe when I read that post. But there are all sorts posting and the vast majority are pretty good folks with good information. Sometimes people read a little and then think they know a subject. This one may have meant well but was out of line. I keep reading that the standard is 4-7 pounds too and that is not true -- it is merely under 7 pounds which puts all the tinies within standard. I have had the occasional thought too that there seems to be too much negative towards the smaller Yorkies. It is mostly about breeding them, but not all. Seems like a few want to make people feel guilty if they want a tiny Yorkie. Maybe there is a jealousy factor in there for some, I don't know.

I want smaller Yorkies too. I love the tininess! I picked my male because he was healthy, cute as a button and on the small side. I picked a female that will probably be larger than him but I hope not too big. All of the parents were @ 4 pounds. I also have a Jack Russell that is on the small side and a minature dachshund -- see a trend? Yes, I love the small dogs.

There is a book called The Complete Yorkshire Terrier by Joan Gordon and Janet Bennett that shows a Champion from the early 1900's that is only 1 3/4 pounds! He looks very healthy! You are very right -- there is a big difference between being more susceptible to injury and being unhealthy.

I think the majority feel this way -- just a few want to lord it over others about the smaller weights. There is so much great information, comraderie, care, concern, friendship, laughter and fun here -- don't let an occasional wayward post keep you from enjoying this place! There is plenty of room for those who prefer tiny and those that prefer larger Yorkies. I think most just love them all! I know I do!

[tangobango]

My baby that I get on New Years day is the runt of 6 puppies. I'm glad that I got pick for she will be scrutinized continually for any problems. I am an RN. OK I am a human RN but I will be able to see any problems that come our way as I have educated myself and am committed to her well being. I did not pick her because of her size. ( 8oz at 5 weeks). I picked her because she was a sweetheart. She loves to play with her siblings but she also loves to snuggle, no squirming. Her parents are about 5-6 lbs each. So if she was to be an outcast in the yorkie community it would only be because she is the runt of an otherwise normal breeding result. I am paying no more no less for her than any of her brothers or sisters. They are all valued equally and all cost the same.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by tangobango

My baby that I get on New Years day is the runt of 6 puppies. I'm glad that I got pick for she will be scrutinized continually for any problems. I am an RN. OK I am a human RN but I will be able to see any problems that come our way as I have educated myself and am committed to her well being. I did not pick her because of her size. ( 8oz at 5 weeks). I picked her because she was a sweetheart. She loves to play with her siblings but she also loves to snuggle, no squirming. Her parents are about 5-6 lbs each. So if she was to be an outcast in the yorkie community it would only be because she is the runt of an otherwise normal breeding result. I am paying no more no less for her than any of her brothers or sisters. They are all valued equally and all cost the same.

She still may grow to 5 or 6 lbs. I have one that was 12 oz at 8 weeks and she is 6 lbs now. She was the runt too. According to the weight chart she should have been 3 lbs

[tangobango]

Originally Posted by chachi

She still may grow to 5 or 6 lbs. I have one that was 12 oz at 8 weeks and she is 6 lbs now. She was the runt too. According to the weight chart she should have been 3 lbs

I don't care what she will weigh. She is and will always be my baby.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by tangobango

I don't care what she will weigh. She is and will always be my baby.

Mines the baby also always has been always will be. They are so sweet when they are tiny like that

[wnturner]

Don't worry. I'm new to YT too and I've looked through the threads. There's only been one time thus far someone has been outride rude and banned from the site. Other then that there have been some "questionable posts" but for the most part if someone was offended they stated so and the person usually apologized and stated there intention. The only people I've seen "blasted" with no remorse were careless breeders. Don't take it personal the support and good advice far outway anything else.

[doortego]

Glad to have you on YT and I for one agree with you. I too have been upset about the comments made about tinies. I don't know that mine is considered a tiny since she's close to 4# now but I have also felt uncomfortable with a lot of the "tiny" or "teacup" remarks. Particularly those that say they are under standard when there is no minimum size for Yorkies.

I do agree that the smaller Yorkie females should not be bred particularly because there is such a variation in Yorkie sizes. I feel it is very irresponsible to risk your pet's life just because you want puppies and certainly wouldn't want to support a breeder who practices such.

[yougetthesmiles]

I think you have to be cautious with tiny Yorkies, I to have a 3lb baby and I'm constantly having to say "watch out for Lillie"
There was a thread on here awhile back where a lady has or may had, dont remember if the Yorkie lived or not, but she was helping her daughter do her homework and they were using a calculator and it dropped on the Yorkies head and knocked it unconscious.

Me personally, I have had a 6lb Yorkie and now my 3lb Yorkie and I love both sizes, just with the smaller ones comes a little more work.

Hope you stick around here, this is a wonderful place with some truly wonderful and amazing people!

[BamaFan121s]

Please tell me I didn't see it suggested that people who give warnings and cautions others about tiny Yorkies do so because they are jealous of those with small ones. EVen if it was a joke... That is one of the most absurd things I have heard in a while!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Please tell me I didn't see it suggested that people who give warnings and cautions others about tiny Yorkies do so because they are jealous of those with small ones. EVen if it was a joke... That is one of the most absurd things I have heard in a while!

I saw that and laughed it off - most all of us wouldn't trade our yorkies ANYTHING ....we love them no matter what the size. There is no way I'm jealous of anyone with a tiny - But - I AM jealous of all the people with NEW puppies Waaaaaa.....I want one so bad !

[jvwheeler]

Mine are almost 5# and almost 10#. Under my breath, I prefer the bigger puppy. I don't worry about her so much. I don't have to track whether she eats (I have to make sure she doesn't eat too much). She is rambuctious and I don't worry about her getting hurt, she is definitely not fragile.

My "teapot" (I love that!) is sweet, gregarious, wonderful, loving, smart and well-behaved.

My boy is almost 5#, frequently stepped on or nearly so, timid and I am constantly checking to make sure he gets his food, returning his treats to him, and protecting him from our 7# cat. But he is a great companion for Ginger--which was the original reason I got him. They spend hours upon hours playing. I just worry about him more. And my hubby and I both have lap warmers.

But they are both loved and just a teensy bit spoiled.

[Maizee Grace]

I haven't ever seen anyone bash anyone on this site, which quite frankly surprised me. On every other forum I've been a part of, people will yell at you for bumping your posts, saying something wrong, or not searching well enough for a question. They are especially fiesty if you disagree with their opinion but I have not found that here at all. I LOVE it!! I have a small yorkie as well (a little over 2 pounds) and no one has said that it was bad. They say take extra precautions when they are puppies and make sure they don't fall, but other than that, small yorkies are fine. I haven't run into any more problems than my friend with two 10 pound yorkies has. I agree when they say no breeding of itty bitties, but that's about all that would be limiting.

[Kathy LaMar]

I have two female yorkies. My 2 year old weighs 3 1/2 pounds and the 3 year old weighs 2 1/2 pounds. Both are very healthy. We didn't buy them because of their size, but because we fell in love with them at first sight. We have a wonderful vet, but shhhhhhhh.....we always tell the girls that we are taking them to the Pediatrician.

Of course, everybody begged us to let them have puppies so that they could have one. Knowing that they both are way too small, we had both girls spayed.

The only time we really worry about them getting hurt is when we have guests because Lexi & Cricket are so excited by company and we worry about someone stepping on them. However, we have 4 grandkids, ages 12 - 3 and they are excellent around the girls knowing that they can get hurt easily.

We also never let our girls go outside alone since we live in the country and have hawks, coyotes, and just about anything else you can name.

Big or small, I am convinced that the Yorkie is by far the most wonderful dog in the world. What lucky people we are to be so blessed with these little creatures!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Please tell me I didn't see it suggested that people who give warnings and cautions others about tiny Yorkies do so because they are jealous of those with small ones. EVen if it was a joke... That is one of the most absurd things I have heard in a while!

I am sorry if I did not word that well, but why be insulting? I was answering another mention of a possible jealousy issue. I said maybe, I don't know. No one could really know another's motives. I reread my post and I can't believe one line was taken out of context and pounced on like that when I made it so abundantly clear about my overall feelings of this place. I would ask what purpose that served -- just to try to ridicule a person? If that had been the main theme of my post I would understand. But one line out of context?

Please don't confuse the two things going on. There are a lot of caring folks who try to nicely advise of the very real extra precautions needed with little ones; that politely tell newbies about the dangers of getting a puppy from too small a mother, the dangers of thinking of breeding a tiny mother, the risk of surgeries and the like. That is the majority! Then there are a very few who are a lot more assertive saying things like tiny Yorkies are unhealthy and try to insinuate anyone wanting a smaller yorkie is uncaring, stupid or both -- some give a specific weight that is acceptable!

I don't think most would want to trade off their Yorkie (I first wrote no one would -- but then I remembered a post from someone wanting to sell their slightly large Yorkie in hopes of finding a smaller one! Now that was an EEK for me.) But it is possible that some are sort of like the person with rounder kids saying something negative about those with thinner kids. They don't want to trade kids but maybe in the back of their minds they would want something to be different. Most are very happy with their own dogs size, whatever it is -- and those folks submit the nice cautions about little ones because they are thinking of the dogs and the owners!

Most here post good warnings and cautions and I can see how those people would think this thread was off the mark -- but everyone is not posting with the same tone. I think it was a valid concern. I have already read thousands of posts so for me .... it was a small bump in the road -- but if someone happened to catch a few of those more derogative posts in a row, they might have more concern. Others might have missed them completely and not even understand this thread.

I don't even know how large mine will wind up to be as the two I now have are puppies. But if they stay little, I am betting they will be healthy as they are now, if too little I will spay/neuter and love them for all their lives. If they get large, I will just spay/neuter and love them for all their lives! Some have preference over large or small Yorkies. I prefer the small, but I can love any size. There is plenty of room on a forum for a lot of diverse opinions and preferences (without calling anyone or their posts absurd) -- that is what makes it interesting, informative and entertaining.

I hope that I conveyed that I sure do not think this is pervasive on this forum. Very few posts are negative. It is the nicest forum I think I have ever visited. I have become an almost instant addict. Hopefully this is not going to cause a problem!