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mommyof2 · 05-25-2006, 05:27 AM

I am at my wits end already with Dixie. As some know already, I can't find any place at night (except in my arms) that Dixie is happy with. We've tried three different kinds of crate, we've tried all three of our bathrooms...and she still whines, nonstop, all night long!! I am so confused. Yogi never did this. I am so worried because my husband said that if she keeps this up, she is going to have to go back to the breeder

!! He has to work and he isn't getting any sleep, neither are my children.

I have been thinking and thinking and thinking...Trying to figure out what is the reason....So here's what I've come up with and wanted to get your experienced opinions.

Yogi was almost 12 weeks when we got him. He whined the first night in his crate, so we put him in the bathroom and he was fine. So we gradually transitioned him from there, to his crate and now he's wonderful.

Dixie just turned 8 weeks on Tuesday. I got her the Monday before. We can't put her in anything or anywhere, and have her be quiet, only my arms or somebody elses arms. We've even tried putting Yogi and Dixie in the same crate, Dixie is okay for a little bit, but then gets upset and so does Yogi. He wants OUT!
Do you all think that it could be her age that is the problem here? I know she is very young to have left her mother, but I also know that there are other pups that have left their moms at this age and have been fine. But do you think that the difference between these two, could be that she is so much younger than Yogi? If it is, what should I do? Should I just give in and put her in bed with me, until she gets a little older?
HELP!!

GeorgiesMomma · 05-25-2006, 05:34 AM

I am not sure if I am going to help you in anyway with this one but here is my story. I brought Georgie home when he was 10 weeks. I bought him a crate to sleep in at night because he was so small I worried about him being in bed with me. Well..... the first night I put him in the crate and after about 10 minutes of him whining I took him out and he has slept with me every night since. I wasn't comfortable at first because I worried so much about him, but I felt much better knowing that he was content in bed with me. I am not sure if it's Dixies age or if dogs are just different. I wasted $30 on his crate because he has never (not even during the day) went back into it. My nieces Yorkie will sleep in his carrier she brought for him, Georgie won't even go near his. If you are willing too I think you should let her sleep with you especially if Yogi does already JMO. Good luck with everything.

mommyof2 · 05-25-2006, 05:39 AM

Thanks so much!! Yogi doesn't sleep with me and he never has. He sleeps in his crate and does fine. My major concerns about having her in bed with me is 1. I might hurt her or my husband will. 2. That she will only sleep with me. There are going to be times, when she won't be able to sleep with me. Then what do I do? Do you ever have to go anywhere and can't take your dog? If so, what happens? For instance, my husband and I have to go to Atlanta the end of June. My mom will be staying at my house with my kids and the dogs, but she does not want Dixie to sleep with her. So then what?

I am also concerned because I can't have her running around the house all day. Especially when I'm gone.

I'm so at a loss here...

bchgirl · 05-25-2006, 05:45 AM

All of them are different. You could let her sleep with you or bite the bullet and listen to her whining and crying a few nights in the crate. She will stop. If you continue to let her out that is just re-enforces it in her mind....enough noise, long enough and I get out. Are you home during the day? If so, I'd suggest crating her some during the day. That would make the nighttime crating a little easier. Let her cry. Yes it's sad to hear, but she is fine. At night some people place the crate in the bedroom and hang their hand down close so puppy can smell it. Some pick the furtherest room in the house to lessen the noise factor. Be prepared at her age, she will probably need to go potty sometime during the night or very very early....like dark thirty.

It's tough love

If you want her to use a crate, you'll have to enforce it. Mine hated her crate at first....and SCREAMED, literally....now the crate door is left open and she routinely goes inside to nap in it, and sometimes takes a treat inside to enjoy in private.

Good luck ~

PS Just saw your second post. Ramsey sleeps with us, but if we go out of town without her and she stays at the "babysitters"....she sleeps in her crate. They've told me....she goes right to sleep without a peep. Just another reason it's a good idea to have them crate trained....some babysitters don't want to sleep with a dog.

GeorgiesMomma · 05-25-2006, 05:46 AM

I totally understand if the crate is the only option I think you have to be patient with her. She is a baby and maybe her breeder didn't have her in a crate so she is not use to that. I have gone out of town and left Georgie with my in-laws but they are total dog lovers and he snuggles up with my MIL and she adores him. Maybe when you go away your kids will let her sleep with them? I know if I am not available Georgie does not discriminate anyone that has a warm bed he is happy with

One last thing I was concerned about Georgie get hurt sleeping with us because he is so small but he has been with us since August and has been just fine.

typerk · 05-25-2006, 05:46 AM

I think the problem is that when she whines she gets what she wants so she is never taught not to whine. We would yell(not too loud though) no no no no to get our dog to stop whining. Unfortunately I think there are other things going on with her that need to be addressed. If you are constantly babying her and not being the pack leader the whining can go on forever. And you should never ever start the habit of letting her sleep with you. That is absolutely solving nothing. That's the equivalent of covering your whole floor with plastic to avoid a dog from peeing on it instead of training it not to. In my opinion whining is an easy fix you just have to change a couple of things. Good luck.

sneri13 · 05-25-2006, 05:47 AM

She was very young to be taken from her mother. I think you should try sticking to one place for a little while and see how she does.

Have you used the alarm clock, hot water bottle? They really won't cry all night long, but if you go in and pick her up after whining for a little while and then put her down she will just do it all over again knowing you will go in and pick her up again. If you just let her go she will realize the whining will NOT get her what she wants. Same with moving the place she sleeps. She will never get use to being in one place if her crate is always moved. Think of your bedroom being moved everyday. I know it will be difficult but I think she needs a little more time to adjust.

My two sleep with us, but if I am not home they will sleep with the kids, or God forbid their own beds.

Good Luck.

mommyof2 · 05-26-2006, 05:40 AM

So, I went to petsmart and got these soothing toys. I was really looking for a momma heartbeat simulator, but they didn't have one. So I got these two toys that have these packages in them that you microwave and heat them up. The warmth is supposed to sooth the pups.

I was skeptical at first. But, she was quiet in her crate last night!!

Didn't hear a peep until about 3:30 in the morning and since she had been in her crate since about 10:00 or so, I went and checked on her. She had peed in her bed and didn't like it. So I removed it, put a fresh bed in with her (picked up a few extra of those while at petsmart), reheated her toys, and in she went and was quiet until she heard me get up this morning at 6:30!!

I am just soo happy and relieved right now, I can't even describe it!! I was so worried about her and upset that I was making her upset.
Thanks so much for all the advice and support!

JeanieK · 05-26-2006, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mommyof2

I am at my wits end already with Dixie. As some know already, I can't find any place at night (except in my arms) that Dixie is happy with. We've tried three different kinds of crate, we've tried all three of our bathrooms...and she still whines, nonstop, all night long!! I am so confused. Yogi never did this. I am so worried because my husband said that if she keeps this up, she is going to have to go back to the breeder

!! He has to work and he isn't getting any sleep, neither are my children.

I have been thinking and thinking and thinking...Trying to figure out what is the reason....So here's what I've come up with and wanted to get your experienced opinions.

Yogi was almost 12 weeks when we got him. He whined the first night in his crate, so we put him in the bathroom and he was fine. So we gradually transitioned him from there, to his crate and now he's wonderful.

Dixie just turned 8 weeks on Tuesday. I got her the Monday before. We can't put her in anything or anywhere, and have her be quiet, only my arms or somebody elses arms. We've even tried putting Yogi and Dixie in the same crate, Dixie is okay for a little bit, but then gets upset and so does Yogi. He wants OUT!
Do you all think that it could be her age that is the problem here? I know she is very young to have left her mother, but I also know that there are other pups that have left their moms at this age and have been fine. But do you think that the difference between these two, could be that she is so much younger than Yogi? If it is, what should I do? Should I just give in and put her in bed with me, until she gets a little older?
HELP!!

I think it is her age.

Have you tried putting the two of them together?

mommyof2 · 05-26-2006, 05:52 AM

Yeah, I've tried that and she is most content that way, but Yogi doesn't like it. He starts scratching at the crate, trying to get out. He like his own space. So right now, I don't think it's a good idea to try to get him to adjust to that. He is showing signs of jealousy and being mad that she is here. So on top of her, I have him peeing and pooping every where to get back at me!!!

kelkiss5 · 05-26-2006, 08:48 AM

Hi, I just got a new puppy her name is Boots, i got her just over a week ago,she was 8 weeks old also. The first nite i put her in a crate and she whined for what seemed like ages. Well i just had to ignore her and guess what theres not a whimper anymore. Just be patiant and she'll stop eventully.Good luck

05-25-2006, 05:27 AM	#1
mommyof2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 158	Need your opinions.... I am at my wits end already with Dixie. As some know already, I can't find any place at night (except in my arms) that Dixie is happy with. We've tried three different kinds of crate, we've tried all three of our bathrooms...and she still whines, nonstop, all night long!! I am so confused. Yogi never did this. I am so worried because my husband said that if she keeps this up, she is going to have to go back to the breeder !! He has to work and he isn't getting any sleep, neither are my children. I have been thinking and thinking and thinking...Trying to figure out what is the reason....So here's what I've come up with and wanted to get your experienced opinions. Yogi was almost 12 weeks when we got him. He whined the first night in his crate, so we put him in the bathroom and he was fine. So we gradually transitioned him from there, to his crate and now he's wonderful. Dixie just turned 8 weeks on Tuesday. I got her the Monday before. We can't put her in anything or anywhere, and have her be quiet, only my arms or somebody elses arms. We've even tried putting Yogi and Dixie in the same crate, Dixie is okay for a little bit, but then gets upset and so does Yogi. He wants OUT! Do you all think that it could be her age that is the problem here? I know she is very young to have left her mother, but I also know that there are other pups that have left their moms at this age and have been fine. But do you think that the difference between these two, could be that she is so much younger than Yogi? If it is, what should I do? Should I just give in and put her in bed with me, until she gets a little older? HELP!! __________________ Melanie, Yogi and Dixie (who's finally home!!)

05-25-2006, 05:34 AM	#2
GeorgiesMomma I love TBCG! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD Posts: 7,227	I am not sure if I am going to help you in anyway with this one but here is my story. I brought Georgie home when he was 10 weeks. I bought him a crate to sleep in at night because he was so small I worried about him being in bed with me. Well..... the first night I put him in the crate and after about 10 minutes of him whining I took him out and he has slept with me every night since. I wasn't comfortable at first because I worried so much about him, but I felt much better knowing that he was content in bed with me. I am not sure if it's Dixies age or if dogs are just different. I wasted $30 on his crate because he has never (not even during the day) went back into it. My nieces Yorkie will sleep in his carrier she brought for him, Georgie won't even go near his. If you are willing too I think you should let her sleep with you especially if Yogi does already JMO. Good luck with everything. __________________ Morgan Mommy toGeorgie boy & Isaiah RIP sweet Coco 10/12/99-8/1/12 Read About Georgie's Experience with Atlantoaxial Instability (AAI) Here!

05-25-2006, 05:39 AM	#3
mommyof2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 158	Thanks so much!! Yogi doesn't sleep with me and he never has. He sleeps in his crate and does fine. My major concerns about having her in bed with me is 1. I might hurt her or my husband will. 2. That she will only sleep with me. There are going to be times, when she won't be able to sleep with me. Then what do I do? Do you ever have to go anywhere and can't take your dog? If so, what happens? For instance, my husband and I have to go to Atlanta the end of June. My mom will be staying at my house with my kids and the dogs, but she does not want Dixie to sleep with her. So then what? I am also concerned because I can't have her running around the house all day. Especially when I'm gone. I'm so at a loss here... __________________ Melanie, Yogi and Dixie (who's finally home!!)

05-25-2006, 05:45 AM	#4
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	All of them are different. You could let her sleep with you or bite the bullet and listen to her whining and crying a few nights in the crate. She will stop. If you continue to let her out that is just re-enforces it in her mind....enough noise, long enough and I get out. Are you home during the day? If so, I'd suggest crating her some during the day. That would make the nighttime crating a little easier. Let her cry. Yes it's sad to hear, but she is fine. At night some people place the crate in the bedroom and hang their hand down close so puppy can smell it. Some pick the furtherest room in the house to lessen the noise factor. Be prepared at her age, she will probably need to go potty sometime during the night or very very early....like dark thirty. It's tough love If you want her to use a crate, you'll have to enforce it. Mine hated her crate at first....and SCREAMED, literally....now the crate door is left open and she routinely goes inside to nap in it, and sometimes takes a treat inside to enjoy in private. Good luck ~ PS Just saw your second post. Ramsey sleeps with us, but if we go out of town without her and she stays at the "babysitters"....she sleeps in her crate. They've told me....she goes right to sleep without a peep. Just another reason it's a good idea to have them crate trained....some babysitters don't want to sleep with a dog. __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com Last edited by bchgirl; 05-25-2006 at 05:47 AM.

05-25-2006, 05:46 AM	#5
GeorgiesMomma I love TBCG! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD Posts: 7,227	I totally understand if the crate is the only option I think you have to be patient with her. She is a baby and maybe her breeder didn't have her in a crate so she is not use to that. I have gone out of town and left Georgie with my in-laws but they are total dog lovers and he snuggles up with my MIL and she adores him. Maybe when you go away your kids will let her sleep with them? I know if I am not available Georgie does not discriminate anyone that has a warm bed he is happy with One last thing I was concerned about Georgie get hurt sleeping with us because he is so small but he has been with us since August and has been just fine. __________________ Morgan Mommy toGeorgie boy & Isaiah RIP sweet Coco 10/12/99-8/1/12 Read About Georgie's Experience with Atlantoaxial Instability (AAI) Here! Last edited by GeorgiesMomma; 05-25-2006 at 05:49 AM.

05-25-2006, 05:46 AM	#6
typerk YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 252	I think the problem is that when she whines she gets what she wants so she is never taught not to whine. We would yell(not too loud though) no no no no to get our dog to stop whining. Unfortunately I think there are other things going on with her that need to be addressed. If you are constantly babying her and not being the pack leader the whining can go on forever. And you should never ever start the habit of letting her sleep with you. That is absolutely solving nothing. That's the equivalent of covering your whole floor with plastic to avoid a dog from peeing on it instead of training it not to. In my opinion whining is an easy fix you just have to change a couple of things. Good luck. __________________ http://www.dogster.com/?156534.

05-25-2006, 05:47 AM	#7
sneri13 Luv My Spoiled Babies Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,065	She was very young to be taken from her mother. I think you should try sticking to one place for a little while and see how she does. Have you used the alarm clock, hot water bottle? They really won't cry all night long, but if you go in and pick her up after whining for a little while and then put her down she will just do it all over again knowing you will go in and pick her up again. If you just let her go she will realize the whining will NOT get her what she wants. Same with moving the place she sleeps. She will never get use to being in one place if her crate is always moved. Think of your bedroom being moved everyday. I know it will be difficult but I think she needs a little more time to adjust. My two sleep with us, but if I am not home they will sleep with the kids, or God forbid their own beds. Good Luck. __________________ Susan Mac Mellie & Manny Until we meet again at Rainbow Bridge

05-26-2006, 05:40 AM	#8
mommyof2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 158	Update So, I went to petsmart and got these soothing toys. I was really looking for a momma heartbeat simulator, but they didn't have one. So I got these two toys that have these packages in them that you microwave and heat them up. The warmth is supposed to sooth the pups. I was skeptical at first. But, she was quiet in her crate last night!! Didn't hear a peep until about 3:30 in the morning and since she had been in her crate since about 10:00 or so, I went and checked on her. She had peed in her bed and didn't like it. So I removed it, put a fresh bed in with her (picked up a few extra of those while at petsmart), reheated her toys, and in she went and was quiet until she heard me get up this morning at 6:30!! I am just soo happy and relieved right now, I can't even describe it!! I was so worried about her and upset that I was making her upset. Thanks so much for all the advice and support! __________________ Melanie, Yogi and Dixie (who's finally home!!)

05-26-2006, 05:52 AM	#10
mommyof2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 158	Yeah, I've tried that and she is most content that way, but Yogi doesn't like it. He starts scratching at the crate, trying to get out. He like his own space. So right now, I don't think it's a good idea to try to get him to adjust to that. He is showing signs of jealousy and being mad that she is here. So on top of her, I have him peeing and pooping every where to get back at me!!! __________________ Melanie, Yogi and Dixie (who's finally home!!)

05-26-2006, 08:48 AM	#11
kelkiss5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 660	Hi, I just got a new puppy her name is Boots, i got her just over a week ago,she was 8 weeks old also. The first nite i put her in a crate and she whined for what seemed like ages. Well i just had to ignore her and guess what theres not a whimper anymore. Just be patiant and she'll stop eventully.Good luck