I would like to know

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

they both keep asking the same thing over and over again. we covered this in the two other threads. I think their intention is to cause uproar over show dogs.

I won't contribute to their success anymore.

I think maybe their feelings were just really hurt...I can see why.

In any case, you are right...stopping the situation will put an end to it. It's too close to bed time for this anyway...lol.

[kim_yorkiemom]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

I won't contribute to their success anymore.

The tone took a negative turn with your comment.

I really wish we could maintain an atmosphere of helpfulness on YT instead of turning flippant or insulting toward members when they ask a question that we may think has previously been discussed ad nauseam. For them, it may the first time they ever thought of the topic and didn't see the hundreds of threads & questions that came before it. They may not also realize they can conduct a search for answers to their questions in past threads. To them, it may seem more simple to start their own thread. If we don't want to read the topic yet again or feel like answering informatively, perhaps we should just not comment at all on their thread.

[Tashasmom]

I haven't asked anything and I too am tired of this. I just didn't think you had a right to belittle her and if standing up for someones feelings gets me kicked off thats fine at least when i go to bed tonight I know that I stood up for someone that needed standing up for. Just because she doesn't understand something doesn't warrant attacks on her.
I don't enjoy all of this conflict and have decided that maybe it's best I do remove myself from this thread. I came here to learn and to give advice on things I already know. I can honestly say what has went on the last couple of days isn't enjoyable for me. I do think there are alot of breeders and yorkie owners on here that are very nice and helpful. I am glad I have met those. I also feel that there are alot of people on here that are too quick to criticize then they want to threaten when a rebuttal is called for. I am not fond of people that can be cruel.
I don't know what else to say other than I can sit around and listen or read..to some of you ridicule people. It's not right. So therefore I will just email the one's I like and stay away from the ones I don't.

[megan_kat22]

in my opinion i think people who are going to breed need to breed for a standard because we don't need to get off topic and start breeding more dogs. that is the last things we need, i love dogs to death, and that is what makes me so sad is that there are so many without homes. so i think people only need to breed to high standards (which are show dogs) so nothing gets out of hand. there are yorkie rescues, and a yorkie is a yorkie. all dogs have awesome personalities so if you cannot afford a show puppy rescue one who needs a second chance!

[Laura]

Yorkies are not readily available even in rescue. Mutts, including yorkie mixes are sometimes, even small dogs are hard to find a rescue and pounds. I do wish we could close down all puppymills and place those animals in kind homes. I am sorry, but obviously, if we left it up to some breeders; 1st - children, or homes with children would not be allowed to have yorkies at all. 2nd - prices would continue to escalate to the point where only the movie stars could have a yorkie, they would be the only ones who could afford the few available. We would have to wait in line at the ASPCA in Hollywood to get a Yorkie. Yorkies make lovely pets and since I raised my own AKC litter, I know they are the best in the world. I hope you all feel the same about yours!

[Paisleypup]

I like your reply to this Pat (YorkieRose) I agree with you completely.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I do not feel a dog must be show quality to be bred. I do feel it must be breed quality with a pedigree to back it up..or you will get pups who look less and less like a Yorkie as this line is reproduced..someone is under the misconception that pups of good quality cost the most...not so...I find pups from "income" breeders cost the most, and few are worth it. I know people selling quality champion sired pups for $1000..to me that is fair..pets shops charge far more...

We have had so many threads on YT about people asking if they have a purebred Yorkie..it must be because many breeders pay no attention to quality..you should not have to guess at the breed you just purchased.

Do what you feel is ethcial and benefical to the breed...and do not listen to anyone..I never did...

[livingdustmops]

Oh don't worry there will be plenty of Yorkie's in rescue soon enough with them moving to the number 3 spot on the AKC list (see stats below). Everyday there are over 300 available in rescue/pounds/shelters and this number is going up. Luckily for Yorkie's there are many strong rescue organizations and many of the pounds and shelters have worked with these rescue organizations to pull these little ones out of these awful situations. Many a Yorkie could not/have not survived in a pound or shelter situation.

•Only 38% of all dogs and cats will remain in their first home for their entire lives.
•Nationally, over 50% of all adopted animals are no longer in their adoptive home after just the first year.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

Oh don't worry there will be plenty of Yorkie's in rescue soon enough with them moving to the number 3 spot on the AKC list (see stats below). Everyday there are over 300 available in rescue/pounds/shelters and this number is going up. Luckily for Yorkie's there are many strong rescue organizations and many of the pounds and shelters have worked with these rescue organizations to pull these little ones out of these awful situations. Many a Yorkie could not/have not survived in a pound or shelter situation.

•Only 38% of all dogs and cats will remain in their first home for their entire lives.
•Nationally, over 50% of all adopted animals are no longer in their adoptive home after just the first year.

Wow thats sad! I didnt realize the numbers were that high.

[minniemn]

I read some of the other threads but not all..

I am a believer in breeding to the standards set by the AKC, and breeding with another dog that has strong points where your female has weak points.

I know of a very reputable show person, she told me it is all politics really- not the best of breed always wins, and you are fooling yourself if you believe that... the show world is filled with politics and who's who.

I also don't believe that you need to show to breed, come on- if you are going by the AKC standards, why does a judge have to tell you if your dog is good enough... your vet has cleared your dog of all health issues, why does what a judge feel, the only way to go? one dog may win over another because the judge liked their looks better... even though both dogs were 100% on the mark for standards. Does that mean the one who didn't win isn't good enough?

I myself would not buy a dog by a person who breeds and shows if they put their dogs into other homes after their breeding life is over- I myself want a dog who comes from a family breeder, one with a small amt of dogs, and one who keeps them until they pass.... I want to know that the breeder, has dogs because she wants them, and doesn't get rid of them when they are no longer bringing in the dough.

Everyone has their preferences, that is why there are so many different breeders out there.... just because I like things one way, doesn't mean it has to be that way.

I see a lot of people who feel superior because they are "show" people.... I guess if you feel you are better than any one of us who has, or will breed a dog, following as close to AKC as you do... well then more power to you... but there are many who feel that your way isn't the way it has to be... and just because some breeders dont' show doesn't mean their dogs are of any less quality than yours.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... and can you believe this one?? I bred a yorkie, who I didn't show, and I got a pup who I have been told by the vet and a show person that my pup is show quality.... but it isn't for me... I am not going to subject my family pet to the life of a show dog... she loves the grass, she loves to run through the snow, she loves to be "free"... not kenneled to protect her coat.

People just need to take pride in what they do... and not worry about what so and so may think... who cares? If you are doing what is right by the dogs then there is nothing to worry about.

[yougetthesmiles]

If one of the parents were reg you can CKC your yorkie.

[dskeeter1983]

Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles

If one of the parents were reg you can CKC your yorkie.

how do you do that and what ??????????? exspences is there ?

[yougetthesmiles]

I'm not sure cause I didnt care about papers on Kloey, her dad was reg but her mom wasent, I think you may have to have copies of the parent that is reg, but dont quote me on it. check this site out...
http://www.continentalkennelclub.com/Rules.aspx

[dskeeter1983]

thank you

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by minniemn

I read some of the other threads but not all..

I am a believer in breeding to the standards set by the AKC, and breeding with another dog that has strong points where your female has weak points.

I know of a very reputable show person, she told me it is all politics really- not the best of breed always wins, and you are fooling yourself if you believe that... the show world is filled with politics and who's who.

I also don't believe that you need to show to breed, come on- if you are going by the AKC standards, why does a judge have to tell you if your dog is good enough... your vet has cleared your dog of all health issues, why does what a judge feel, the only way to go? one dog may win over another because the judge liked their looks better... even though both dogs were 100% on the mark for standards. Does that mean the one who didn't win isn't good enough?

I myself would not buy a dog by a person who breeds and shows if they put their dogs into other homes after their breeding life is over- I myself want a dog who comes from a family breeder, one with a small amt of dogs, and one who keeps them until they pass.... I want to know that the breeder, has dogs because she wants them, and doesn't get rid of them when they are no longer bringing in the dough.

Everyone has their preferences, that is why there are so many different breeders out there.... just because I like things one way, doesn't mean it has to be that way.

I see a lot of people who feel superior because they are "show" people.... I guess if you feel you are better than any one of us who has, or will breed a dog, following as close to AKC as you do... well then more power to you... but there are many who feel that your way isn't the way it has to be... and just because some breeders dont' show doesn't mean their dogs are of any less quality than yours.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... and can you believe this one?? I bred a yorkie, who I didn't show, and I got a pup who I have been told by the vet and a show person that my pup is show quality.... but it isn't for me... I am not going to subject my family pet to the life of a show dog... she loves the grass, she loves to run through the snow, she loves to be "free"... not kenneled to protect her coat.

People just need to take pride in what they do... and not worry about what so and so may think... who cares? If you are doing what is right by the dogs then there is nothing to worry about.

Brenda...WOW.....THIS Was a wonderful post ...Very nicely said and you have a great way with words.....

I think you summed up what many of us feel...at least I know I do...I appreciate all the people who offer their opinions...but I really relate the most with what you just said.

this post has ALOT of heart...