I would like to know

[dskeeter1983]

Well I just read That breeders should have quality show yorkies in order to breed well if that is the case then none of us unfortunate people would have a yorkie because they would be to exspensive to buy.

I for witch have a yorkie who is in the line of show quality but her mother was not.

I love my dogs and I will always love my dogs. But scence the people that I got Callie from couldnt get me papers for her because her dad was not registered as a breeder , then that does not make my yorkie any less of a yorkie exept in the fact that she has less opertunity , to become a show dog. You can not show a dog who is not akc registered and I dont undersatnd this whole thing about , Having to be show quality .

I know and understand that there is no such thing as a Tea cup yorkie it is just a phrase that people use and nothing more.

Does some on here want to tell me why a breeder should not breed outside of show quality . I am not trying to be rude here but come on think about it and let me know cause I cant seem to figure it out by myself.

[Rem&Silkmom]

Just my opinion but I think people with show quality dogs breed them to get more show quality dogs. I don't think they breed dogs just to breed them but the hopes of getting a show puppy. If you have a great show dog the hopes are they will produce another. Unfortunately they don't always produce a show dog so they let the pups go to approved homes. I don't think they are bad people and they intentions are to better the breed. Not all people who show dogs charge crazy prices for thier pups expecially if they are not show dog material. I hope that makes sense.
Chris

[dskeeter1983]

Originally Posted by Rem&Silkmom

Just my opinion but I think people with show quality dogs breed them to get more show quality dogs. I don't think they breed dogs just to breed them but the hopes of getting a show puppy. If you have a great show dog the hopes are they will produce another. Unfortunately they don't always produce a show dog so they let the pups go to approved homes. I don't think they are bad people and they intentions are to better the breed. Not all people who show dogs charge crazy prices for thier pups expecially if they are not show dog material. I hope that makes sense.
Chris

Well I understand where you are comming from but these people are saying that you shouldnt breed unless your dog is show quality.

yes I want to better the breed and I want to continue with this breed but it dont give anyone the right to judge me or anyone else who dont show a dog . I know all about showing I just preferr not to do it .

[YorkieRose]

I do not feel a dog must be show quality to be bred. I do feel it must be breed quality with a pedigree to back it up..or you will get pups who look less and less like a Yorkie as this line is reproduced..someone is under the misconception that pups of good quality cost the most...not so...I find pups from "income" breeders cost the most, and few are worth it. I know people selling quality champion sired pups for $1000..to me that is fair..pets shops charge far more...

We have had so many threads on YT about people asking if they have a purebred Yorkie..it must be because many breeders pay no attention to quality..you should not have to guess at the breed you just purchased.

Do what you feel is ethcial and benefical to the breed...and do not listen to anyone..I never did...

[Rem&Silkmom]

Oh...I got ya...I thought you were asking. So you are saying why can't YOU breed just because you don't show dogs? I guess also showing dogs proves that your stud is up to standards. Not sure what your breeding program consists of but I bought my first Yorkie from a wonderful lady. Here is the problem. I don't think she did any kind of genetic testing and for all I know (I was dumb at the time) Remmy might not even be a full blooded yorkie. I guess if you show then you have validation that your dogs meets the standards. But I am not one to judge. I for one know that it is alot of work and something I would not consider. I just enjoy having my two around. But I do stand by the fact that there are a lot of breeders out there that are not over priced.

[shyorkies]

Originally Posted by dskeeter1983

Well I understand where you are comming from but these people are saying that you shouldnt breed unless your dog is show quality.

yes I want to better the breed and I want to continue with this breed but it dont give anyone the right to judge me or anyone else who dont show a dog . I know all about showing I just preferr not to do it .

I do not think the thread was started to offend anybody, so please do not take it that way.. But when someone gets involved with the showing side of breeding, usually they will only breed to better the breed and not just to have pet puppies to sell.. I believe that if you are a reputable breeder and you are responsible in showing your dogs you try to breed better everytime you breed.. That is not meant to take anything away from you or if you breed.. Hope that makes sense?

[dskeeter1983]

Originally Posted by shyorkies

I do not think the thread was started to offend anybody, so please do not take it that way.. But when someone gets involved with the showing side of breeding, usually they will only breed to better the breed and not just to have pet puppies to sell.. I believe that if you are a reputable breeder and you are responsible in showing your dogs you try to breed better everytime you breed.. That is not meant to take anything away from you or if you breed.. Hope that makes sense?

i know that the thread wasnt ment for that. But they shouldnt judge other people I think if they want to judge maybe they should go to akc and ask to be a judge , instead of judging others.

I dont breed and that thread is a good example of why.

And yes I f I did breed i would want good quality dogs but , there is no way am I going to believe that in order to have good quality dogs you need to have show expeirence , I am some one who has show experience and I am saying that they do not have to be showen or have show expeirence to be good quality

[gloriajean]

I can't figure it out either, who decides if a dog is show quality? I went to an akc dog show and there was a famous dog handler there showing a toy poodle, at the time i was breesing toy poodles and had heard of this handler, I wasn't an expert by any means but the dog he brought into the ring was horrible!! but he won anyway!! that's why all my dogs except one is ckc and i bet anyone to try to and pick out which one is akc.

[shelbysmom]

We have 173 recent posts about breeding trying to explain this.

www.ytca.org has a lot of information about this beautiful breed.

sorry that you are still confused, it's really not that difficult.

[dskeeter1983]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

We have 173 recent posts about breeding trying to explain this.

www.ytca.org has a lot of information about this beautiful breed.

sorry that you are still confused, it's really not that difficult.

yah know lady I dont know how much of a genuis you are. I what so ever am less fortunate then what you think you are ok.

[Tashasmom]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

We have 173 recent posts about breeding trying to explain this.

www.ytca.org has a lot of information about this beautiful breed.

sorry that you are still confused, it's really not that difficult.

She didn't ask for idiotic replies she asked for some answers to questions.

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by Tashasmom

She didn't ask for idiotic replies she asked for some answers to questions.

a word of caution with your language on yt. that response is unnecessary and uncalled for and if our moderators get upset you will find yourself in trouble.

my post was legitimate. asking the same thing over and over again will not change the answer. I advise you both to take a look at the link and learn about the standard of the breed. Good breeders try to achieve "the standard" with the best examples of the breed they have available.

end of discussion

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by shelbysmom

We have 173 recent posts about breeding trying to explain this.

www.ytca.org has a lot of information about this beautiful breed.

sorry that you are still confused, it's really not that difficult.

That was kind of rude, don't you think. Insulting someone's ability to grasp a concept about something they don't participate in? I think that, even though unintentional, some got the feeling that their dogs aren't "worthy" of being called Yorkies if they aren't in a show ring. If that is the impression she got, why wouldn't she be upset?

[Laura]

There is no reason to let this get out of hand. You do not have to show to be a breeder. It is not the law. You can even be on yorkie talk without being one of the top breeders or showers in the country. We can learn a lot from those people who know so much about yorkies and I think it is best if we learn from them and try to ignore their arrogance. Maybe they don't really mean to come across that way, it is just that they know so much they don't know when to quit. I mean this in the nicest way, I promise.

[shelbysmom]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

That was kind of rude, don't you think. Insulting someone's ability to grasp a concept about something they don't participate in? I think that, even though unintentional, some got the feeling that their dogs aren't "worthy" of being called Yorkies if they aren't in a show ring. If that is the impression she got, why wouldn't she be upset?

they both keep asking the same thing over and over again. we covered this in the two other threads. I think their intention is to cause uproar over show dogs.

I won't contribute to their success anymore.