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Chelsey · 02-16-2006, 05:13 AM

My friend has two female yorkies, same ages as my girls 14 months and 11 months. The eldest weighs just over 3lbs with healthy issues. The younger one weighs 12lbs, refuses to share food, if any other dog comes near the food dish she will attack the other dog. I was there this morning and while sitting there, the big girl started pushing the small girl so my friend said, just watch what she does next. Well well i couldnt believe my eyes as i have NEVER ever witnessed this, she started throwing the small girl around on the floor, standing over her in a dominant way. She has been doing this for the past 3 weeks, i couldnt give my friend any advice simply because i dont know what is going on there. Another problem she has to deal with is jealousy among them, she also owns a Lab X Chow, i have seen this too, it seems like none of them want you to say anything to the other. To me this was very weird, i sat there gob smacked, so i told her i would post this question on here in the hope that there will be someone here that has some advice or maybe you guys will know where it comes from.
I may add that she does spend the same amount of time on each of her dogs so its not that she favours any of them.

I asked her if the girls are ever happy to see each other and if they ever cuddle, she told me they NEVER do, the arguments between those two start when they wake up in the morning. I have witnessed the attacking and its very sad to see!!

Can anybody help please!!

Thanks

Mandy

skingstone · 02-16-2006, 05:32 AM

I would seek a behaviorist immediately. thats awful. sorry I cant help. There are people on this site that are more experienced than me though

red98vett · 02-16-2006, 06:03 AM

Oh wow....There are some people here that may have some great suggestions for you.... but that sounds pretty serious to me...poor little girl....it sounds like this is only the beginning of what could be a big problem

red98vett · 02-16-2006, 06:04 AM

Mandy - why don't you put this thread in the training section too ?

carolina yorkie · 02-16-2006, 06:09 AM

I agree with V...Sound like the beginning of a huge problem if not dealt with immediately. Wish I had some advice for you. My family has dealt with a similar issue with dominance and had to rehome one of the dogs because it got so bad. It was emergency trip to the vet after trip...no matter what you would do to keep them separated. They were escape artists. Poor little dog...I am so afraid she might get hurt. Hopefully someone will post suggestions soon. Good luck.

Chelsey · 02-16-2006, 09:20 AM

Thanks for your replies, and thanks Villette i have posted the thread in the "training" section... good idea

I really hope someone can give us advice because what i witnessed this morning was rather horrible, i dont know what i would do in that situation. I have asked her to keep the dogs seperated when she leaves the house so she cant attack the small girl when there is no one there to help her!

The jealousy issues they have among each other concerns me too, the Chow mix is 8 years old and i have noticed in the past that he doesnt appreciate puppies. I remember when my girls were tiny babies she asked me to bring them to her house so all the pups could have a "play hour" well i didnt last for longer then 30min. because i saw the Chow mix paw MY babies

my friend assured me that he wont do anything to them because he did it to her puppies too, but i didnt want to take the chance (call me chicken) lol

Sherry Lynn · 02-16-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Mandy - why don't you put this thread in the training section too ?

I was going to suggest that, too. There are some really sharp trainers that post there that are always willing to help. There are a couple of threads right now about aggression that you might find interesting.

You might suggest your friend join YT.

Chelsey · 02-16-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry Lynn

I was going to suggest that, too. There are some really sharp trainers that post there that are always willing to help. There are a couple of threads right now about aggression that you might find interesting.

You might suggest your friend join YT.

Yes is have made a thread in the "training" section

as far as asking my friend to join YT, i wish she could, but she knows nothing about computers and cant read English

SnowWa · 02-16-2006, 12:49 PM

My pets have always gotten along (dogs and cats). I'll have to admit that it sometimes took a week or two for them to decide to become friends - but
it never failed.

Your friend just may have a dog or dogs that will never accept or become friends with another dog.

Forcing a friendship or even tolerance may not be possible -- even with a lot of advise and work.

My neighbor had to give up a little kitten because her other cat just wouldn't accept it. She worked with her two cats for almost six months, and in the end, just couldn't subject the younger kitten to the older cat's behavior any longer. She felt it just wasn't fair to the cute little guy. So, he went to a new home and is a happy, wonderful, spoiled little pet now.

Sometimes neutering helps -- but often it won't affect a relationship that has already been established.

I'm afraid your friend may have to consider finding a new home for her one little pup. He deserves to live a life free from fear and being tormented. And, it obviously isn't a happy situation for her other dog either....or her either, for that matter. Having several pets is great - but they have to get along and be happy.

Carol Jean

Chelsey · 02-16-2006, 01:34 PM

Thanks Carol - well, this is all very new to me, she had mentioned to me in the past that her dog's arent close to each other, she was at my house and was observing my girls. I didnt really have an idea of what she really meant and she also asked me if mine have a jealousy issue, because her 3 dogs are very jealous of each other she said.
I have seen many times in the past that her 12lbs girl hoards food dishes ( any food dish ) she was at my house with her 2 yorkies one day and her big girl bit one of my girls because she walked past her own food dish. At that moment i thought with my "human mind" maybe that dog was starved when she was a pup before my friend got her. She doesnt share her toys or anything!

As far as i can see after reading up on this and reading replies here, i think this whole issue is going to cause my friend a lot of heartbreak. She is very attached to all 3 of her dogs. Though i have to admit that she allows her dogs to do as they please, she doesnt reprimand any of their behaviour.
Her husband, son and herself are on different levels as far as correcting their dogs is concerend, the son does not see anything wrong with the big girl's behaviour, the husband comes up for the 3lbs girl and my friend just shouts (without a voice) she will just call their names. None of them see anything wrong with the Chow mix and his behaviour, so i think this is going to be a tough situation to try and change

02-16-2006, 05:13 AM	#1
Chelsey My2Pearls Chelsey & Chanel YT Donator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: N Posts: 4,097	Question for a friend HELP PLEASE!! My friend has two female yorkies, same ages as my girls 14 months and 11 months. The eldest weighs just over 3lbs with healthy issues. The younger one weighs 12lbs, refuses to share food, if any other dog comes near the food dish she will attack the other dog. I was there this morning and while sitting there, the big girl started pushing the small girl so my friend said, just watch what she does next. Well well i couldnt believe my eyes as i have NEVER ever witnessed this, she started throwing the small girl around on the floor, standing over her in a dominant way. She has been doing this for the past 3 weeks, i couldnt give my friend any advice simply because i dont know what is going on there. Another problem she has to deal with is jealousy among them, she also owns a Lab X Chow, i have seen this too, it seems like none of them want you to say anything to the other. To me this was very weird, i sat there gob smacked, so i told her i would post this question on here in the hope that there will be someone here that has some advice or maybe you guys will know where it comes from. I may add that she does spend the same amount of time on each of her dogs so its not that she favours any of them. I asked her if the girls are ever happy to see each other and if they ever cuddle, she told me they NEVER do, the arguments between those two start when they wake up in the morning. I have witnessed the attacking and its very sad to see!! Can anybody help please!! Thanks Mandy __________________ Proud member of the crazy club

02-16-2006, 06:03 AM	#3
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Oh wow....There are some people here that may have some great suggestions for you.... but that sounds pretty serious to me...poor little girl....it sounds like this is only the beginning of what could be a big problem __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

02-16-2006, 06:04 AM	#4
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Mandy - why don't you put this thread in the training section too ? __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

02-16-2006, 06:09 AM	#5
carolina yorkie YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 445	I agree with V...Sound like the beginning of a huge problem if not dealt with immediately. Wish I had some advice for you. My family has dealt with a similar issue with dominance and had to rehome one of the dogs because it got so bad. It was emergency trip to the vet after trip...no matter what you would do to keep them separated. They were escape artists. Poor little dog...I am so afraid she might get hurt. Hopefully someone will post suggestions soon. Good luck. __________________ Say no to puppymills!

02-16-2006, 09:20 AM	#6
Chelsey My2Pearls Chelsey & Chanel YT Donator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: N Posts: 4,097	Thanks for your replies, and thanks Villette i have posted the thread in the "training" section... good idea I really hope someone can give us advice because what i witnessed this morning was rather horrible, i dont know what i would do in that situation. I have asked her to keep the dogs seperated when she leaves the house so she cant attack the small girl when there is no one there to help her! The jealousy issues they have among each other concerns me too, the Chow mix is 8 years old and i have noticed in the past that he doesnt appreciate puppies. I remember when my girls were tiny babies she asked me to bring them to her house so all the pups could have a "play hour" well i didnt last for longer then 30min. because i saw the Chow mix paw MY babies my friend assured me that he wont do anything to them because he did it to her puppies too, but i didnt want to take the chance (call me chicken) lol __________________ Proud member of the crazy club

02-16-2006, 05:32 AM	#2
skingstone Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 210	I would seek a behaviorist immediately. thats awful. sorry I cant help. There are people on this site that are more experienced than me though

02-16-2006, 12:49 PM	#9
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	My pets have always gotten along (dogs and cats). I'll have to admit that it sometimes took a week or two for them to decide to become friends - but it never failed. Your friend just may have a dog or dogs that will never accept or become friends with another dog. Forcing a friendship or even tolerance may not be possible -- even with a lot of advise and work. My neighbor had to give up a little kitten because her other cat just wouldn't accept it. She worked with her two cats for almost six months, and in the end, just couldn't subject the younger kitten to the older cat's behavior any longer. She felt it just wasn't fair to the cute little guy. So, he went to a new home and is a happy, wonderful, spoiled little pet now. Sometimes neutering helps -- but often it won't affect a relationship that has already been established. I'm afraid your friend may have to consider finding a new home for her one little pup. He deserves to live a life free from fear and being tormented. And, it obviously isn't a happy situation for her other dog either....or her either, for that matter. Having several pets is great - but they have to get along and be happy. Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

02-16-2006, 01:34 PM	#10
Chelsey My2Pearls Chelsey & Chanel YT Donator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: N Posts: 4,097	Thanks Carol - well, this is all very new to me, she had mentioned to me in the past that her dog's arent close to each other, she was at my house and was observing my girls. I didnt really have an idea of what she really meant and she also asked me if mine have a jealousy issue, because her 3 dogs are very jealous of each other she said. I have seen many times in the past that her 12lbs girl hoards food dishes ( any food dish ) she was at my house with her 2 yorkies one day and her big girl bit one of my girls because she walked past her own food dish. At that moment i thought with my "human mind" maybe that dog was starved when she was a pup before my friend got her. She doesnt share her toys or anything! As far as i can see after reading up on this and reading replies here, i think this whole issue is going to cause my friend a lot of heartbreak. She is very attached to all 3 of her dogs. Though i have to admit that she allows her dogs to do as they please, she doesnt reprimand any of their behaviour. Her husband, son and herself are on different levels as far as correcting their dogs is concerend, the son does not see anything wrong with the big girl's behaviour, the husband comes up for the 3lbs girl and my friend just shouts (without a voice) she will just call their names. None of them see anything wrong with the Chow mix and his behaviour, so i think this is going to be a tough situation to try and change __________________ Proud member of the crazy club