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07-15-2014, 11:17 AM | #1 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Everyone Please Read: Going Forward, We Must Post With More Respect Toward Others Hi all - Firstly, I just want to say what a wonderful community YT is, and that I hope this thread can help us all think about improving our presence here during interactions…even if it just means tweaking our posting styles a bit. I’ll get right to the point: we’ve been receiving a huge amount of communications from members who are concerned/venting about some of the harshness and aggression they’re seeing/perceiving in the community. This harshness pertains to both new and old members - on both the receiving and giving end of things. We’re hearing there is a pervasive feeling that members are being driven away via disrespectful, snarky, disdainful, extremely aggressive, and downright mean posting styles. This needs to stop. We cannot be a community or call ourselves a community if we don’t come together sometimes, as a collective, and agree to do better. Well, it’s time to come together and agree to do better...to be more aware of giving (yes, GIVING) respect, to be more kind, to be more compassionate and supportive. No one is asking anyone to be a Pollyanna or to not be themselves. We’re merely asking that, in your interactions, you strive harder and TRULY commit to what is mentioned in the previous paragraph. It’s not that hard -- and if it IS hard for you, then perhaps this isn’t the right board for you and perhaps it’s time to move on from YT to find an environment that does fit. We are not asking much. If you do think we’re asking too much, then 1) this is not the community for you 2) you’re being self-centered and 3) you need to develop your insight into human beings, other than yourself. WE ARE NOT ASKING MUCH. It is okay to speak your mind here at YT. However, it is not okay to simply justify any means you deem fit to meet your end goal. We believe in being STRONG advocates for dogs/animals - but not, however, at the expense of the human being behind that dependent and innocent dog. Please do not assume or think that it’s okay to behave any way you please merely because it’s in the interest of an animal. We all need to be decent here and post w/ a modicum of respect…EVEN when and especially when dealing with someone who is doing everything we are personally opposed to. Your opposition to another human being’s behavior does *not* mean you are right, nor is it a fact that they are universally and categorically wrong….it merely means you have opposition. Please learn to deal with it because it’s not going away. If we see excessively negative and/or badgering posting styles, we will be warning people or suspending people and/or permanently banning members’ accounts. This is an open discussion in terms of feedback, thoughts, concerns….so please feel free to share. This post is not aimed at anyone, so please do not make assumptions. It was driven by the sheer amount of concerned members who expressed themselves via PMs and on the forum itself. Thank you for reading!
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° |
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07-15-2014, 11:21 AM | #3 |
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| Sounds quite reasonable |
07-15-2014, 11:29 AM | #4 |
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07-15-2014, 11:39 AM | #5 |
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| YT is not a pleasant place to be . I do come on and read sometimes but I rarely post anymore. If things change I think you would see a lot more activity on the boards. Hopefully your thread will change things Ann..but I am not holding my breath. You have to walk on pins and needles and be afraid of every thing you say when you post here. I am sure I'm not the only long time member who feels this way. YT has always had drama but the last couple of years its been over the top. Life is stressful enough without adding more to it with the drama here.
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07-15-2014, 11:39 AM | #6 |
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| this is perfect, Because I am afraid to post anything , Due to some harsh YT members. Thank you.
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07-15-2014, 11:41 AM | #7 |
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| Thank you for always being respectful and for encouraging us to be the best we can be. I great fully appreciate how much time and compassion you bring to YorkieTalk. Your words are well thought out and heartfelt. Great post!
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07-15-2014, 11:45 AM | #8 |
♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| Very well said, thank you Ann. I myself will try harder to stop and think about a persons situation more before I post. I am guilty of to quick of a response sometimes and know that I have came off sounding rude and uncaring at times. I think for myself it is good to be reminded sometimes that there are real human beings behind the scene and they have feelings to.
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07-15-2014, 11:57 AM | #9 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| Thanks Ann I know I have posted in ways where I could have been more respectful and I will strive to do better. I dont like to argue and I dont like to read it in a thread we all get carried away sometimes and need to be reminded
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07-15-2014, 12:13 PM | #10 |
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| I have been the target recently around here and it was totally uncalled for. I've put it behind me now, but I agree with Jadabug that sometimes I don't feel like posting anymore. I still do because I know that I have something to offer to people and there are emails I get from people where my friendship or advice made a difference to their pet. I'm never going to be the sugary sweet type of person some can be (it just would not be genuine), but that doesn't mean I am harsh, lack respect for others, or was somehow raised incorrectly. Comments like that are really hurtful even if coming from the self-righteous. I also sometimes wonder why this wonderful community of YT members (including the members who always want better behavior from others) don't step up in threads where support is needed - and sometimes it is a thread by one of our own. All the energy some spend telling others how to post and scolding them without moderator status could be channeled into something more positive. There are so many wonderful people here that it truly offsets the negativity for me, and I'm glad to still be a member here for almost 6 years of active posting. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day and I'm glad that Ann started this thread.
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07-15-2014, 12:24 PM | #11 | |
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I'm going back to making trivia questions for the YT trivia Game. See you all there
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07-15-2014, 12:25 PM | #12 |
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| Thank you! As always, Ann, you managed to say what needed to be said in strong and respectful terms. |
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07-15-2014, 12:49 PM | #14 |
I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies
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| Sometimes we all get our feathers ruffled and need to be reminded to chill. I miss a lot of the members who have left. However I also feel sometimes things are blown out of proportion when members are really just trying to help. Once blown out of proportion the thread spirals out of control. And it never does any good. I think everyone also needs to understand and respect that all of us have opinions that may differ. And understand what a forum is about. Sometimes I just have to walk away from threads to keep from blowing a gasket. But I also don't have someone trying to push my buttons. The hardest part is we all want what's best for the pups and when someone is not doing that we tend to get a little ugly. Hopefully this will remind all of us to take a deep breathe and regroup when issues arise.
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07-15-2014, 12:50 PM | #15 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005
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| So true. I left for years due to the harshness, came back after losing my Shelby. So few people understand the pain. Still can't talk about it but good to be around people who get it. New puppy=new things to learn. I love reading all the different experiences and ideas. Thanks for helping to keep it civil. |
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