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Old 07-15-2014, 06:57 PM   #31
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Thank you Ann.


I have no filter as some of you know. . . I know I have not been on as much as I was. I keep opening threads, seeing a new OP write something and it goes off track. They never come back. If I was that new person, I would not come back either. I came and asked a question. It is important that the question is answered. . . Even if it is go to the vet ASAP. Ethics aside. We want to make sure the dog gets the care he needs. Then if the person comes back they will see through all our threads what right and wrong things are. They will learn. But at that moment in time, when they are stressed the most, they don't need a lecture . . They need help ! Let's give it to them.

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I certainly agree this is valid and can be adopted by every member.
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Thank you Ann.


I have no filter as some of you know. . . I know I have not been on as much as I was. I keep opening threads, seeing a new OP write something and it goes off track. They never come back. If I was that new person, I would not come back either. I came and asked a question. It is important that the question is answered. . . Even if it is go to the vet ASAP. Ethics aside. We want to make sure the dog gets the care he needs. Then if the person comes back they will see through all our threads what right and wrong things are. They will learn. But at that moment in time, when they are stressed the most, they don't need a lecture . . They need help ! Let's give it to them.

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Hi all -

Firstly, I just want to say what a wonderful community YT is, and that I hope this thread can help us all think about improving our presence here during interactions…even if it just means tweaking our posting styles a bit.

I’ll get right to the point: we’ve been receiving a huge amount of communications from members who are concerned/venting about some of the harshness and aggression they’re seeing/perceiving in the community. This harshness pertains to both new and old members - on both the receiving and giving end of things. We’re hearing there is a pervasive feeling that members are being driven away via disrespectful, snarky, disdainful, extremely aggressive, and downright mean posting styles. This needs to stop.

We cannot be a community or call ourselves a community if we don’t come together sometimes, as a collective, and agree to do better. Well, it’s time to come together and agree to do better...to be more aware of giving (yes, GIVING) respect, to be more kind, to be more compassionate and supportive.

No one is asking anyone to be a Pollyanna or to not be themselves. We’re merely asking that, in your interactions, you strive harder and TRULY commit to what is mentioned in the previous paragraph. It’s not that hard -- and if it IS hard for you, then perhaps this isn’t the right board for you and perhaps it’s time to move on from YT to find an environment that does fit.

We are not asking much. If you do think we’re asking too much, then 1) this is not the community for you 2) you’re being self-centered and 3) you need to develop your insight into human beings, other than yourself. WE ARE NOT ASKING MUCH.

It is okay to speak your mind here at YT. However, it is not okay to simply justify any means you deem fit to meet your end goal. We believe in being STRONG advocates for dogs/animals - but not, however, at the expense of the human being behind that dependent and innocent dog. Please do not assume or think that it’s okay to behave any way you please merely because it’s in the interest of an animal. We all need to be decent here and post w/ a modicum of respect…EVEN when and especially when dealing with someone who is doing everything we are personally opposed to. Your opposition to another human being’s behavior does *not* mean you are right, nor is it a fact that they are universally and categorically wrong….it merely means you have opposition. Please learn to deal with it because it’s not going away.

If we see excessively negative and/or badgering posting styles, we will be warning people or suspending people and/or permanently banning members’ accounts.

This is an open discussion in terms of feedback, thoughts, concerns….so please feel free to share. This post is not aimed at anyone, so please do not make assumptions. It was driven by the sheer amount of concerned members who expressed themselves via PMs and on the forum itself. Thank you for reading!


Well said!
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This sounds great! I've been here for years but I basically only search and read, I love the amount of knowledge in the forum but certainly it could get scary with some topics..
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Thank you Ann for all that you do to keep this forum a great place to participate.

Something you added in previous posts on this subject, a Gandhi quote that QuickSilver and I think you had in your signature lines at one time:

"Be the change that you wish to see"

That one always stuck with me.
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Yes, THANK YOU ANN, for all you do to keep Yorkie Talk a great place for all of us.

This forum has made a big impact on my life in providing valuable information that makes me a better mom to my pups, amazing support personally in my difficult life situations, and even fun tips on decorating, food, health and beauty, and so much more.

I Yorkie Talk, and will always strive to treat others with kindness and respect, and like Kristin said "Be the change you wish to see"

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YT is not a pleasant place to be . I do come on and read sometimes but I rarely post anymore. If things change I think you would see a lot more activity on the boards. Hopefully your thread will change things Ann..but I am not holding my breath.

You have to walk on pins and needles and be afraid of every thing you say when you post here. I am sure I'm not the only long time member who feels this way. YT has always had drama but the last couple of years its been over the top.

Life is stressful enough without adding more to it with the drama here.
I have felt exactly the same way & have not posted a lot because of the same things.
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YT is not a pleasant place to be . I do come on and read sometimes but I rarely post anymore. If things change I think you would see a lot more activity on the boards. Hopefully your thread will change things Ann..but I am not holding my breath.

You have to walk on pins and needles and be afraid of every thing you say when you post here. I am sure I'm not the only long time member who feels this way. YT has always had drama but the last couple of years its been over the top.

Life is stressful enough without adding more to it with the drama here.
Amen to this...couldn't agree more.
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Hi all -

Firstly, I just want to say what a wonderful community YT is, and that I hope this thread can help us all think about improving our presence here during interactions…even if it just means tweaking our posting styles a bit.

I’ll get right to the point: we’ve been receiving a huge amount of communications from members who are concerned/venting about some of the harshness and aggression they’re seeing/perceiving in the community. This harshness pertains to both new and old members - on both the receiving and giving end of things. We’re hearing there is a pervasive feeling that members are being driven away via disrespectful, snarky, disdainful, extremely aggressive, and downright mean posting styles. This needs to stop.

We cannot be a community or call ourselves a community if we don’t come together sometimes, as a collective, and agree to do better. Well, it’s time to come together and agree to do better...to be more aware of giving (yes, GIVING) respect, to be more kind, to be more compassionate and supportive.

No one is asking anyone to be a Pollyanna or to not be themselves. We’re merely asking that, in your interactions, you strive harder and TRULY commit to what is mentioned in the previous paragraph. It’s not that hard -- and if it IS hard for you, then perhaps this isn’t the right board for you and perhaps it’s time to move on from YT to find an environment that does fit.

We are not asking much. If you do think we’re asking too much, then 1) this is not the community for you 2) you’re being self-centered and 3) you need to develop your insight into human beings, other than yourself. WE ARE NOT ASKING MUCH.

It is okay to speak your mind here at YT. However, it is not okay to simply justify any means you deem fit to meet your end goal. We believe in being STRONG advocates for dogs/animals - but not, however, at the expense of the human being behind that dependent and innocent dog. Please do not assume or think that it’s okay to behave any way you please merely because it’s in the interest of an animal. We all need to be decent here and post w/ a modicum of respect…EVEN when and especially when dealing with someone who is doing everything we are personally opposed to. Your opposition to another human being’s behavior does *not* mean you are right, nor is it a fact that they are universally and categorically wrong….it merely means you have opposition. Please learn to deal with it because it’s not going away.

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I am very glad to see this issue of harshness being brought up. In fact, I have been avoiding YT just because of this. Patience and compassion is needed as we deal with each other. We all have a common interest and love for our animals that should draw us together, not apart. Be nice, be kind. Hugs to all
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Thank you Anne! You are the queen of subtle and we should all use you for our posting mentor.


Lately I find myself just shutting everything down because I have started a snarky post. But what is the use. The people I would address wouldn't change anything and the only thing I would accomplish would be getting other snarky posters to agree with me or I them. Sigh.


Just let it go my friends or send it in a PM.
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