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Old 03-04-2016, 03:45 PM   #1
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Chewie just got her last 10 in 1 shot and rabies. When we got her february 17th, she had her second to last shot and spit up a tiny bit in the carrier, but we believe it was more from nervousness and motion.

I SHOULD expect her to be super cuddly and tired; but wanted to know of any other reactions? I find the aggressiveness of the shot schedule COMPLETELY ridiculous, but, I don't want her to contract illnesses.
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mt vet will not give rabies and shots together for a small dog, hope the baby feels better
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Okay, NOW I'm worried. I let my husband talk me into this. My son was allergic to his vaccines. she is hanging out, eating and looking around but once I Heard no rabies with a vaccine I'm freaking out.
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Just try & be calm. Not all babies will have an adverse reaction. Just keep a watch on her. If anything & I mean anything out of the ordinary happens go at once to your vet.
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I always encourage my new owners to get "Yorkies For Dummies"....it is an excellent book and covers tons of information....

Please get the book and do your research on Yorkies and treatments and shots for yorkies.....some vets will actually be honest and are right up to date on medical treatments of small dogs, yorkies in particular. Some just treat all animals of any species, like they do the next one in the books and there are things you just do NOT do with yorkies....get familiar with specific anesthesia that yorkies can tolerate, and be sure that is what your vet uses.

I let my new babies all go home, completely vaccinated, at 15 weeks old...all they need is rabies, which I instruct new owners to wait until the puppy is 6-8 months old, depending on how large the pup is.....dont buy into that BS that vets split rabies vaccine to adjust for the yorkies smaller size....they can NOT legally do that......

Remember, a vet can not hold your puppy hostage...all they can do is suggest what they think is wrong with a pup, and what they think is the correct, best course of action to take to make it better. it is incumbent on YOU to know what is right and what is wrong, and if you have actually read current information that poses concerns about specific things your vet is advocating for your baby, just say, "No, let me think about this and I will get back to you!" They can not do anything you dont agree to let them do...get their side of what and why and how, go home and do your research, take notes, and then ask your vet about what you have read and make an informed decision....It is a lot of work, but it is necessary in order to be sure you are right on top of what is going on with your baby and what is best for your baby. Never hesitate to tell them you want a second opinion....if that angers your vet, he is insecure and there is a reason for that.
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I always encourage my new owners to get "Yorkies For Dummies"....it is an excellent book and covers tons of information....

Please get the book and do your research on Yorkies and treatments and shots for yorkies.....some vets will actually be honest and are right up to date on medical treatments of small dogs, yorkies in particular. Some just treat all animals of any species, like they do the next one in the books and there are things you just do NOT do with yorkies....get familiar with specific anesthesia that yorkies can tolerate, and be sure that is what your vet uses.

I let my new babies all go home, completely vaccinated, at 15 weeks old...all they need is rabies, which I instruct new owners to wait until the puppy is 6-8 months old, depending on how large the pup is.....dont buy into that BS that vets split rabies vaccine to adjust for the yorkies smaller size....they can NOT legally do that......

Remember, a vet can not hold your puppy hostage...all they can do is suggest what they think is wrong with a pup, and what they think is the correct, best course of action to take to make it better. it is incumbent on YOU to know what is right and what is wrong, and if you have actually read current information that poses concerns about specific things your vet is advocating for your baby, just say, "No, let me think about this and I will get back to you!" They can not do anything you dont agree to let them do...get their side of what and why and how, go home and do your research, take notes, and then ask your vet about what you have read and make an informed decision....It is a lot of work, but it is necessary in order to be sure you are right on top of what is going on with your baby and what is best for your baby. Never hesitate to tell them you want a second opinion....if that angers your vet, he is insecure and there is a reason for that.

What really upsets me- what really does, especially with how anti-vaccinations I am, is that I didn't do ENOUGH research and i should have done so. . My son was allergic, and he'll never be able to live a normal life. My vet won't do the spaying until she's 8-9 months old. I really thought I could trust him to do the right thing. He's cautious enough to inform me of everything he could think of, from baby teeth, her drinking, food, skin, everything. Yet, I let him hit my puppy with her last vaccine and rabies.

My husband is watching her for me tonight here in about a half an hour, because he insists I need to calm down. Chewie has played. she's drinking, she wants to eat but we waited to make sure she wasn't nauseated and will give her a small dinner here- already had a tiny snack. She's sleeping but not lethargic. No swelling. I'm still scared. I will buy the book. Thank you.
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Going forward, just never get rabies and other vaccines together. And what on earth (and why on earth) is a vet giving a TEN in 1 vaccine..???!! Besides the core vaccines (parvo and distemper), what on earth is he giving? I would most definitely want to know every single thing my dog is getting vaxed for.

For understanding a proper vax schedule and for core-vs-elective vaccines, read this: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-overview.html
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Going forward, just never get rabies and other vaccines together. And what on earth (and why on earth) is a vet giving a TEN in 1 vaccine..???!! Besides the core vaccines (parvo and distemper), what on earth is he giving? I would most definitely want to know every single thing my dog is getting vaxed for.

For understanding a proper vax schedule and for core-vs-elective vaccines, read this: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-overview.html

It's not. It's the distemper combo. ca2- and ccpvk? I had it written down, as I keep records. I was so focused on delaying the spaying and not give the rabies with the spay (which was suggested) I simply bowled over on the vaccines. I informed my husband that any rabies vaccines would be staggered- INCLUDING boosters- from here on out. Just like my children. It took my youngest child 7 years for her vaccines. I should have listened to my gut. Yes, I know, It's a learning curve. it doesn't make any of this better. I spoke to my childhood best friend and she informed me of some things last night, and I'm feeling a bit happier. She's a vet tech currently going through the training to be a vet. It helps that I have a medical fact list, and I read up on shot statistics. If I didn't live in the desert, despite the fact it's legal or not, I would have hesitated with the rabies in the very first place. But, it's very easy here for her to get bitten, even at a walk. I feel awful and very guilty. edited to add, the breeder gave me SO much information that I should have read the notes closer before popping off with it. My friend told me last night that it wasn't 10 in 1, it was all in 1.

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It's not. It's the distemper combo. ca2- and ccpvk? I had it written down, as I keep records. I was so focused on delaying the spaying and not give the rabies with the spay (which was suggested) I simply bowled over on the vaccines. I informed my husband that any rabies vaccines would be staggered- INCLUDING boosters- from here on out. Just like my children. It took my youngest child 7 years for her vaccines. I should have listened to my gut. Yes, I know, It's a learning curve. it doesn't make any of this better. I spoke to my childhood best friend and she informed me of some things last night, and I'm feeling a bit happier. She's a vet tech currently going through the training to be a vet. It helps that I have a medical fact list, and I read up on shot statistics. If I didn't live in the desert, despite the fact it's legal or not, I would have hesitated with the rabies in the very first place. But, it's very easy here for her to get bitten, even at a walk. I feel awful and very guilty. edited to add, the breeder gave me SO much information that I should have read the notes closer before popping off with it. My friend told me last night that it wasn't 10 in 1, it was all in 1.
Yes, it's "all in 1" - but what that means is that there is a whole bunch of other unnecessary vaccines in that 1 shot, that's what I'm trying to say/explain.

I'm pretty sure your dog was given the Canine Spectra 10 - which is the 10-in-1 shot you're describing and what your vet said.

That means she got all this:
"Spectra® 10 vaccine is a combination of immunogenic, attenuated strains of Canine Distemper, Canine Adenovirus Type 2 (CAV-2), Canine Parainfluenza, and Canine Parvovirus Type 2b, propagated in cell line tissue cultures. The diluent contains killed antigens for Canine Coronavirus Vaccine-Leptospira Canicola-Grippotyphosa- Icterohaemorrhagiae-Pomona bacterial extract. The CAV-2 fraction cross-protects against respiratory infection caused by infectious canine hepatitis (CAV-1)."

The vast majority of yorkie owners will never, ever allow the Lepto vaccine (most especially) to be given, period. Nor do most of us do Corona. Those are both NON-core vaccines. Distemper, Parvo, and Rabies are the *only* core vaccines. Lepto should truly only be given when the risk of getting it far far farrrrr outweighs the risk of the vaccine itself.

Sorry it didn't go so well for you w/ this vet. It can take a while to find one you trust...I've been there too.
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Yes, it's "all in 1" - but what that means is that there is a whole bunch of other unnecessary vaccines in that 1 shot, that's what I'm trying to say/explain.

I'm pretty sure your dog was given the Canine Spectra 10 - which is the 10-in-1 shot you're describing and what your vet said.

That means she got all this:
"Spectra® 10 vaccine is a combination of immunogenic, attenuated strains of Canine Distemper, Canine Adenovirus Type 2 (CAV-2), Canine Parainfluenza, and Canine Parvovirus Type 2b, propagated in cell line tissue cultures. The diluent contains killed antigens for Canine Coronavirus Vaccine-Leptospira Canicola-Grippotyphosa- Icterohaemorrhagiae-Pomona bacterial extract. The CAV-2 fraction cross-protects against respiratory infection caused by infectious canine hepatitis (CAV-1)."

The vast majority of yorkie owners will never, ever allow the Lepto vaccine (most especially) to be given, period. Nor do most of us do Corona. Those are both NON-core vaccines. Distemper, Parvo, and Rabies are the *only* core vaccines. Lepto should truly only be given when the risk of getting it far far farrrrr outweighs the risk of the vaccine itself.

Sorry it didn't go so well for you w/ this vet. It can take a while to find one you trust...I've been there too.

The vaccine that she was given was directly from the breeder. I thought it was the 10 in 1- that's what she called it. However.. (I'm not being defensive just explaining, I promise). She gave her the 2nd of the series when I got her, and I brought the record over and the vet gave her the last one. Madra told me it wasn't 10 in 1, so, while I'm confused, I am reading a ton right now so I'm certain I'll understand shortly.

I won't give her anything except the bare basics from here on out, but Dan and I (husband) are looking for a vet that deals with smaller little guys from here on out.
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The vaccine that she was given was directly from the breeder. I thought it was the 10 in 1- that's what she called it. However.. (I'm not being defensive just explaining, I promise). She gave her the 2nd of the series when I got her, and I brought the record over and the vet gave her the last one. Madra told me it wasn't 10 in 1, so, while I'm confused, I am reading a ton right now so I'm certain I'll understand shortly.

I won't give her anything except the bare basics from here on out, but Dan and I (husband) are looking for a vet that deals with smaller little guys from here on out.
My father used to tell me, "We all make mistakes...stupid is making the same mistake twice"!!! You did something that may have not been what is best for the pup, but she got thru it unscathed, which is SUPER!!, and you are following this initial misstep with active seeking and searching.....you will come out of this on the other side, so much more informed and your baby will benefit because of it, from this day forward!

I strongly encourage you to get that book I recommended....it is a super reference, I STILL crack mine open at intervals and I have done this breeding thing for YEARS,......you NEVER know it all and when you think you do, THAT is when you become dangerous and irresponsible. And we are always here for people searching out and seeking what is best for our babies!

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The vaccine that she was given was directly from the breeder. I thought it was the 10 in 1- that's what she called it. However.. (I'm not being defensive just explaining, I promise). She gave her the 2nd of the series when I got her, and I brought the record over and the vet gave her the last one. Madra told me it wasn't 10 in 1, so, while I'm confused, I am reading a ton right now so I'm certain I'll understand shortly.

I won't give her anything except the bare basics from here on out, but Dan and I (husband) are looking for a vet that deals with smaller little guys from here on out.
Ah, now I get it . Well good, that means she probably only got that 10-in-1 just the one time. It's awesome you're digging in and learning so much about this - believe me, we were all in your shoes doing the exact same thing at one point...I know exactly what you're going through w/ wanting them to just get what they need, and nothing add'l.
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