If you want a pup Please read. . .

[jovo442]

Just one more thing. Comparing the life of your elderly relatives having accidents to purposely underweight dogs is quite nasty and disgusting. Digest that.

[jovo442]

To the OP: Your dog does know it's limits. Relax and enjoy. Would you jump off a cliff? Neither would your dog. I'm sorry that you were sold an undersized dog. I understand why you feel worried. But yorkies rank in intelligence among the top 15 breeds in the world. Dogs have excellent depth perception. And you can't confine your dog everyday, just as you wouldn't confine a child, for fear of something happening. They, like a child, need to run, play, grow. You are correct to provide a watchful eye, but the issue should not be consuming you to the point that you are too scared to let your dog live life in their own home. My yorkies are bigger than yours. Could they still make stupid decisions? Absolutely. Do they? No. They are just as capable of getting hurt as yours. But they don't.

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by jovo442

I'm not cool with you preaching about uneducated owners, when you yourself have no confidence to leave your dog alone in the house for danger of the scary stairs. Boo. As for the reputable "show dog breeder", a good breeder doesn't sell a dog that makes the owners worry all the time due to its size. I'm really not trying to be mean. But don't come on here and brag about your wee tiny dog when everyone on here is against that! Ps: standard Yorkie size is 7lbs. Let's all get that through our heads.

I believe the OP is simply trying to educate the uneducated who think they want a " Tea Cup" dog because they are so cute. They are deff cute BUT are very fragile. People come to YT all of the time looking for a dog that will only be 3 lbs max as an adult because they are clueless. Those are the people who only want the dog because of "Status" & honestly, those are the people who IMHO should not own a dog period. Lots of people here on YT own tiny dogs most of witch did not intentionally purchase a tiny but you get no guarantee of the size when you purchase any dog. My Jazz for example is barely over 3 lb but was expected to be the size of her parents who were over double her size. I absolutely do not let her jump on & off furniture or go up & down the stairs. I was a vet tech for many years & I have seen many, many times the results of these actions. It has nothing to do with the dog being stupid.

[lilyorkiemilo]

Originally Posted by lillymae

I believe the OP is simply trying to educate the uneducated who think they want a " Tea Cup" dog because they are so cute. They are deff cute BUT are very fragile. People come to YT all of the time looking for a dog that will only be 3 lbs max as an adult because they are clueless. Those are the people who only want the dog because of "Status" & honestly, those are the people who IMHO should not own a dog period. Lots of people here on YT own tiny dogs most of witch did not intentionally purchase a tiny but you get no guarantee of the size when you purchase any dog. My Jazz for example is barely over 3 lb but was expected to be the size of her parents who were over double her size. I absolutely do not let her jump on & off furniture or go up & down the stairs. I was a vet tech for many years & I have seen many, many times the results of these actions. It has nothing to do with the dog being stupid.

I agree....

[matese]

Originally Posted by lillymae

I believe the OP is simply trying to educate the uneducated who think they want a " Tea Cup" dog because they are so cute. They are deff cute BUT are very fragile. People come to YT all of the time looking for a dog that will only be 3 lbs max as an adult because they are clueless. Those are the people who only want the dog because of "Status" & honestly, those are the people who IMHO should not own a dog period. Lots of people here on YT own tiny dogs most of witch did not intentionally purchase a tiny but you get no guarantee of the size when you purchase any dog. My Jazz for example is barely over 3 lb but was expected to be the size of her parents who were over double her size. I absolutely do not let her jump on & off furniture or go up & down the stairs. I was a vet tech for many years & I have seen many, many times the results of these actions. It has nothing to do with the dog being stupid.

Why is it everyone who read the OP thread understood exactly why it was posted but YOU. It was posted TO EDUCATE ppl that want tiny dogs . I saw no "bragging" of of expense then crying over tiny dog. As I see it your replies are to encourage ppl with tiny dogs to let them be dogs, let your 3 lb dog be a dog, let them run, jump, sky dive off beds, sofa. As I see it you are promoting injury to small dogs. I myself have always ended up with pups weighing 12 lbs and over, I have family that want and get tiny, I see their limitations, no one wants to see dogs with broken legs, so they protect these little ones, you say let them be dogs, break lets it's ok. That's how I see all your replies. Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

[ironmike86]

Originally Posted by matese

Why is it everyone who read the OP thread understood exactly why it was posted but YOU. It was posted TO EDUCATE ppl that want tiny dogs . I saw no "bragging" of of expense then crying over tiny dog. As I see it your replies are to encourage ppl with tiny dogs to let them be dogs, let your 3 lb dog be a dog, let them run, jump, sky dive off beds, sofa. As I see it you are promoting injury to small dogs. I myself have always ended up with pups weighing 12 lbs and over, I have family that want and get tiny, I see their limitations, no one wants to see dogs with broken legs, so they protect these little ones, you say let them be dogs, break lets it's ok. That's how I see all your replies. Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Exactly. Thats what I dont understand??. I tried to explain more then once. No one is encouraging a tiny. But just saying all the work they could be. I dont care about the Under 7lbs standard . You posted a link made by someone and was 100% sure you were right. And said you would eat crow. I posted the link from the National Yorkshire Terrier club which makes the rules. I just think its funny how someone can rant of a post so off topic. Sure if this was a tiny thread I would be on your side. But its not. They can be born from smallish healthy weight pairs. But to breed tinys to create more is wrong. Especially if they aren't a few years old and know there health

[gemy]

I too read the Op;s thread as wanting to educate and not to complain. Owners of tiny breeds and at the other end of the spectrum the very large breeds have some similar but also different responsibilities.


The OP also did not state she xpenned her dogs all day. Only when necessary - a sensible precaution.


Should a tiny dog get exercised daily? Of course age appropriate - and in an environment that will be as safe for the dog as possible.


And dogs sometimes don't know their limits. Well at least neither of the breeds I own do. My dogs will over exercise (if I allow it) because it is something they love to do. Swim retrieve over and over again. Ready to go for a hike? Sure Mom - love to do it. I had one dog literally retrieve so much on pavement he abraded the skin off one of his paw pads. My lesson learnt.


My 6lb Yorkie swims and dock jumps. But I don't want him jumping off furniture - in fact I don't want him on my furniture. Although he is allowed to be on my recliner with me.


My Yorkie is crated at night for his safety - as we own 2 large breed dogs with poor night vision. Some one breaks into our home at night I don't want my Yorkie trampled as my guard dogs do their duty.


And Yorkies are at risk around most dogs - as most dogs are very much larger than they are. One pick up and shake of the dogs neck from a bigger dog can seriously maim a Yorkie. Good grief I had a 3 pack of coyotes circling my large dog and myself one day when I was in a park training with my big boy. A coyote would make short work of a Yorkie!


No dogs large or small should repetitively be jumping off heights that are high for them onto slippery surfaces - it quite simply is not good for their joints. Stairs are a different issue and for all breeds no stairs until at least 3 months old - there is at least one study that speaks to this. For some Yorkies with short legs and you have steep stairs - they physically may not safely do stairs!


And finally there is no shame in being a show breeder - why should there be?

[Verbena]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

How old and big is he?? I for one like to see the puppy eat kibble. If they are a good eater then i feel good about the pup. Winnie was a good eater at the breeders but when i brought her home she needed to be hand feed for a few weeks. New environment probably.. But I'm lucky enough my wife is an at home dog sitter.... So theres always someone there for my girls. And never left home alone longer then 2-3 hrs....Some exceptions like an evening party but not everyday and I have security camera on them

Galen is 2 years and 8 months. He is 3.5 lbs. he was a good eater until his siblings left and then he had problems. And I had tried the range of kibble foods until Jenny turned me on to freeze dried raw. It is the only food he eats on a consistent basis. I feed him in the evening and my DBF feeds him in the morning. We do this so he knows that both are the bringer of food. Well it didn't work so well when I had my surgery. He refused to eat. And 5 weeks after that. It took a lot to get him to eat little amounts of food. And if he doesn't eat he starts to throw up. II had to make sure I was on top of it and still are.

[Verbena]

Originally Posted by jovo442

I am very confused by your post. Not allowed to go up or down the stairs? What the heck? Yorkies are hearty, healthy, fiesty hunters. I have a four pounder and a nine pounder. Neither one is a fragile, breakable butterfly. They are DOGS! Specifically bred to run and hunt. Stop it! Take him for a run in the park and chill out. You have spent too much time on Yorkie talk with the jaded owners. Take a breath. Go and play.

If you know me you would not think that. . . . I live in a very old home, built in 1784. . . He fell down the stairs once. Thank everything he didn't get hurt.

Galen is surround by big dogs that he plays with and bosses around. He goes outside and runs and plays. I live in an area where we have a pair of breeding Hawks, Eagles and other birds of prey that is it not safe for him to run without a harness and leash.

[Verbena]

Originally Posted by jovo442

I'm not cool with you preaching about uneducated owners, when you yourself have no confidence to leave your dog alone in the house for danger of the scary stairs. Boo. As for the reputable "show dog breeder", a good breeder doesn't sell a dog that makes the owners worry all the time due to its size. I'm really not trying to be mean. But don't come on here and brag about your wee tiny dog when everyone on here is against that! Ps: standard Yorkie size is 7lbs. Let's all get that through our heads.

Galen is a Biewer. He was charting larger but he did not grow. I do leave him alone. I can not take him everywhere. I do have other animals in my home.

I posted this because I was seeing comments from people on another site. One that got a 8 week old dog. Did not know anything about the breed. I do not think ever owned a dog and the dog is having serious problems. . . I was just sharing something. Not preaching. I have been around dogs my whole life small and large. Each breed is different and you should learn about the breed before you get one. Know what you are getting into. . .

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by jovo442

To the OP: Your dog does know it's limits. Relax and enjoy. Would you jump off a cliff? Neither would your dog. I'm sorry that you were sold an undersized dog. I understand why you feel worried. But yorkies rank in intelligence among the top 15 breeds in the world. Dogs have excellent depth perception. And you can't confine your dog everyday, just as you wouldn't confine a child, for fear of something happening. They, like a child, need to run, play, grow. You are correct to provide a watchful eye, but the issue should not be consuming you to the point that you are too scared to let your dog live life in their own home. My yorkies are bigger than yours. Could they still make stupid decisions? Absolutely. Do they? No. They are just as capable of getting hurt as yours. But they don't.

I did not interpret the original post as applying only to Yorkies on the smaller end of the scale. My boys are 9+ pounds, 11+ inches from the floor to topline. Although larger, they still require more care and supervision than any other dog we've had.

Max is a very smart boy, but jumped off a high surface once -- a table. Very lucky he didn't break a leg. I let them jump from the couch, but not anywhere else. I lift them out of the car. I keep them off of our long stairway because they would probably knock each other down running to the door.

Our neighbor's Yorkie is the same size and was attacked by a hawk in his front yard. Our yard is not Yorkie friendly for a variety of reasons.

[Verbena]

Originally Posted by gemy

I too read the Op;s thread as wanting to educate and not to complain. Owners of tiny breeds and at the other end of the spectrum the very large breeds have some similar but also different responsibilities.


The OP also did not state she xpenned her dogs all day. Only when necessary - a sensible precaution.


Should a tiny dog get exercised daily? Of course age appropriate - and in an environment that will be as safe for the dog as possible.


And dogs sometimes don't know their limits. Well at least neither of the breeds I own do. My dogs will over exercise (if I allow it) because it is something they love to do. Swim retrieve over and over again. Ready to go for a hike? Sure Mom - love to do it. I had one dog literally retrieve so much on pavement he abraded the skin off one of his paw pads. My lesson learnt.


My 6lb Yorkie swims and dock jumps. But I don't want him jumping off furniture - in fact I don't want him on my furniture. Although he is allowed to be on my recliner with me.


My Yorkie is crated at night for his safety - as we own 2 large breed dogs with poor night vision. Some one breaks into our home at night I don't want my Yorkie trampled as my guard dogs do their duty.


And Yorkies are at risk around most dogs - as most dogs are very much larger than they are. One pick up and shake of the dogs neck from a bigger dog can seriously maim a Yorkie. Good grief I had a 3 pack of coyotes circling my large dog and myself one day when I was in a park training with my big boy. A coyote would make short work of a Yorkie!


No dogs large or small should repetitively be jumping off heights that are high for them onto slippery surfaces - it quite simply is not good for their joints. Stairs are a different issue and for all breeds no stairs until at least 3 months old - there is at least one study that speaks to this. For some Yorkies with short legs and you have steep stairs - they physically may not safely do stairs!


And finally there is no shame in being a show breeder - why should there be?

Thank you . .

Galen is out and about all day long. His playmates most often are a Aussie/Border mix, and kitties. One is a 18lb LOL. He runs and plays with the Aussie most of the time and he ruff houses with her. He doesn't know that he is little. That is why the Wolfhound comment We do not have small dogs that live by me. He even meet a BRT which he just loved.

You are so right about the wild life. I live surrounded by a farm. Which in turn brings all types of wild life. Since there is a lot of deer. Once we counted 63 in the herd. Comes the coyotes. There is a pack that runs around following the deer. So I am more cautious at my house then say at my Mom's who lives on LI.

[maxdog]

I just read this entire thread and I only have one thing to say.

Jovo, you are an a**hole.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by jovo442

Oh yes..."showing." As if. My yorkies are members of my family. I don't "show"my dogs. Just as I don't "show" my children. What the heck? This is a status thread. "I spent $3000 on a dog for looks." Here are my thoughts on papers...I call it "inbreeding." I also call it, "small genetic pool." Bet all your tails are docked too, right? For looks? Goodnight. Sorry I lost my temper.

Originally Posted by jovo442

disappointed in your answer, yorkiemom. The OP bragged that their undersized pup came from a professional. But you have turned it around on me, that I do not have empathy for the weak. That's just not right. This person clearly bought (god this new term I learned today is so gross)..."a tiny". If I bred a too small dog, I would not sell to anyone and deal with the consequences and heartbreak myself. But you have painted me in the light that I don't have empathy for a "naturally" small dog. BS. The op clearly bought an undersized dog from "show parents", on purpose, and is now crying about it. Thank you for your sarcasm. Was looking forward to an intelligent response, wether it agreed with my opinion or not. Lost the respect I had for you. But...what was it you said before? "Haha! Hilarious?" Ask me how many times I have had inquiries about the size of my puppies. Or if they are "teacup."

Originally Posted by jovo442

Just one more thing. Comparing the life of your elderly relatives having accidents to purposely underweight dogs is quite nasty and disgusting. Digest that.

Digest this: you have been rude here, antagonistic, nasty, immature, and downright mean. We'll ask you to STOP now, politely and respectfully. If you are unable to simply be civil to the OP and other members here, then don't post. You clearly have a deep axe to grind for whatever reasons. Grind it elsewhere, please. Thank you.

[ColesMommy01]

I've never understood why some folks get riled up when it comes to how they choose to raise their pups. Will you always agree with everything the next person does? No, but just like raising a child if it's not causing any harm and your opinion wasn't asked...mind your business.