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ColesMommy01 · 07-10-2015, 05:14 AM

Do you have a vet that specializes in small breeds in your area? If you're keen on breeding any potential Yorkie you may want to find one. Most vets deal with all breeds and won't know all the specifics that go with a well structured Yorkshire Terrier. Although, good vets usually make it a point to have breeders numbers on speed dial if they have a question concerning a particular breed.

There's a term my breeder has used when owners try to evaluate their own dogs called "kennel blind". It basically means we can't see the faults in our own animals and we think they're darn near

perfect.

Are there any breeders you respect in your area who would be able to critique Kupo in person? Not including his breeder.

Deviruchi · 07-10-2015, 07:07 AM

@colesmommy01 erm.. i'm not sure.. i've been going to this vet that my trainer recommended and she's really nice and kind.. and kupo is loved there. he actually went to 2 vets so far.. but i changed my first one since they were rude and cold towards me and kupo... it seemed like they just wanted to get money and didnt care for animals..

lol yeah i think i'm kennel blind.. i can't stop loving him. he's just too adorable. <3 i was just trying to eval him since i didn't know his back was curved and it's been annoying me lol i think i googled and looked up everything that relates to roached back and arched loin for first 10 pages.. lol (making sure he'd be ok..)

i am looking for some other breeders, but so far i only got to contact one breeder, but she's out of state.. so far she's saying that she just don't know about show, since his hair is so short, but that's fixable since hair grows... but she just stated that he was a really cute and should have beautiful babies.

and i was looking into ytca and apparently there is no yorkie clubs in arkansas.. or atleast i can't find one.. ugh :/ should i start emailing ytca and see what they say about kupo lol.

ColesMommy01 · 07-10-2015, 07:51 AM

Have you thought of joining an All Breed Club? There are plenty of All Breed Clubs in Arkansas, I'm not sure if any are close to you, but there should be at least one other member within the All Breed Club with a yorkie who shows/breeds.

Where I'm located there's an All Breed Club about 20 minutes away but a Yorkshire Terrier Club about 90 minutes away. I would recommend that you contact a member within the YTCA that is close to you and you wouldn't mind traveling to visit if possible(there's one located in Germantown,TN).

Although preferred, you don't have to have a Yorkshire Terrier breeder help you with everything. I've learned quite a bit from other toy breeders, especially Maltese breeders. You definitely want a breeder/mentor who you can call and ask any question without feeling silly and is close distance wise in case an emergency arises.

I've spoken with a few breeders about a plethora of subjects and they all do things a little differently from each other.

ColesMommy01 · 07-10-2015, 07:53 AM

https://www.apps.akc.org//apps/clubs...uestTimeout=90

lisaly · 07-10-2015, 10:21 AM

Kupo is really adorable, and I can tell how much you love him. I think you really need to ask yourself why you want to breed Kupo. I've had five Yorkies in my adult life and many, many dogs growing up. I think every one of my Yorkies were/are gorgeous, and they all came from championship lines. I've never bred any of my little girls. I didn't know about just breeding to improve the breed, but my girls are/were my babies, and I didn't want to take any risks. They were all purchased on limited registration anyway. My mom had a poodle who she adored, and she lost her due to complications during a whelping. The male she bred him with was much smaller than her, but she didn't realize his lines were bigger. I was a little girl, but I remember it clearly, and my mom never bred one of her babies again. My Katie was bred twice by her breeder, but that was only after she was shown and received her championship. She came to live with me when she was three once she was retired from breeding.

We want to make sure that our precious breed retains the qualities which make a Yorkie look, move, and act like a Yorkie. Our breed is plagued with so many health issues. I wasn't looking for a show dog when I brought Katie into our lives. I wanted a healthy, happy Yorkie with a good temperament who looked like the image I have in my mind of a Yorkie. She is a very special little girl.

I went with Gemy to the Yorkie Specialty in Manhattan a few years ago. Razzle was being shown at the time, and I have never seen such beautiful movement from a Yorkie. Health, movement, and temperament are passions of hers, and Gemy also evaluates puppies. I learned so much listening to her talk about the movement of the dogs, which all looked beautiful to me. I was able to discern the difference with a little education from Gemy. She knows what she's talking about. I also shared with her the heartbreak when she decided her beautiful heart dog, her BRT Magic, could not be bred when he was diagnosed with juvenile cataracts at 5.75 years of age. He is a gorgeous dog with so many wonderful and desirable BRT traits. I have deep respect for breeders who breed for the right reasons. I'm so glad your asking questions and are looking into health testing Kupo. I definitely recommend going to a show to see other Yorkies and breeders.

Deviruchi · 07-11-2015, 06:02 PM

@colesmommy01 i never heard of all breed club before.. lol i'm looking for mentors, but i'm not sure how to approach one or how to look for one exactly.. lol. maybe you can be my mentor

@lisaly thank you

i really do love him a lot <3 i'm sorry about your mom's poodle. she must have been heartbroken. gemy does seem very knowledgeable

i def. learned some new terms from her and colesommomy01. i never knew about topline and sickle hock. now i'm teaching him sit/beg/sit-pretty command to strengthen his muscles

also made some appts for his consulation with a vet to ask about bat exam as well as regarding his back and possibly sickle hock... (when i went to ask around, they said his legs seems good though). i just want kupo to grow up healthy, and i want to take all preventive measures to make him stay healthy

Deviruchi · 07-12-2015, 05:07 AM

Btw guys what do you of the first puppy shown here (her topline?) She's shown as example of being an ideal yorkie but her back doesn't seem straight to me? O.o (trying to learn)

topline figure 1?

gemy · 07-12-2015, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviruchi

Btw guys what do you of the first puppy shown here (her topline?) She's shown as example of being an ideal yorkie but her back doesn't seem straight to me? O.o (trying to learn)

topline figure 1?

You are correct in that a roach looks present in that Yorkie. But the descriptive of the picture is explaining attitude and not a level topline. They are not saying this is the ideal yorkie in that picture.

The Part specific showing a Yorkie is showing the ideal Yorkie.

gemy · 07-12-2015, 05:38 AM

Here is a good instructional video on structure and movement patterns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlEPmaVxNOc

Sickle hocked dogs are shown in this If I remember correctly the example is of Chi's. Now towards the end of your short vid look at how your dog walks over to the front of the is it a balconey?

gemy · 07-12-2015, 06:03 AM

[QUOTE=Deviruchi;4573351]@gemy whenever i walk him, its about 25-30 min per session. and usually we do it 2-3x a day

and as for the sickle hock thing you pointed out.. do you think if i ask the vet about it, she'd know and see how he is? i mean.. she didn't even point out that his back was curved so i'm not sure if she'd know. lol.. thank you for explaining what it is, but i'm still not really getting it.. watched the vid like 5x now, focusing on his leg, but still not sure.. x_x;

on here, it says the one in the right is sickle hock, but when i'm looking at kupo, his leg doesn't look like that.. should i try to take another vid later and see? (i'm probably in denial.. lol)[/QUOTooE]

Understand that many photos of issues or problems show the extreme of that problem. Look at the Dogsteps video I posted earlier and really study it.
Sickle hocked as I explained earlier is the failure of the hock joint to extend and or flex fully when the dog is walking trotting etc. It is not so much positional as shown in that static photo but shows itself clearly on movement.

Look at show Yorkies and try to objectively compare your dog to these pics. Cute is no reason to breed a dog - they need a lot more than cute. And quite frankly dogs don't think about wanting to be a father or a mother. That is we humans who want this. Also read these threads in the breeding library if you have not already.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...-answered.html

Deviruchi · 07-12-2015, 07:13 PM

@gemy, thank you for the informative video and the links

it made me understand some things better. i assumed that the link i provided were using *standard* yorkie that ppl love, since i thought they were trying to teach others about yorkie.. so i kind of got confused looking at that first pic lol

i'm now in search of show breeders around my area, but i couldn't find any. the breeder i got my puppy from showed some yorkies, but i wanted to get other ppl's opinions too on kupo.

but i def. considered the both pros and cons and potential risks on breeding.. and i do admit i am scared of what may happen to the female dog i may have, or the babies since i'm not experienced... so.. i'm still in middle of researching.. on the link you shared *so you want to be a breeder?* i was kind of surprised of things i already thought about and some things i didn't even think about. i knew that there can be complications during birth, but i didn't know all the types of complications they listed in their post.. it was def. something to think about.

thank you again for helping me with my dilemma

it's really interesting to learn all these

Deviruchi · 07-15-2015, 06:06 PM

Ok guys.. quick update.. I've decided to keep Kupo as full AKC and went ahead and got him registered. I'm also going to the kennel club event hosting next month in my area. I've contacted the president of the club and he said he'll help me with the process and get me introduced to yorkie people in the club.

But now here is my other dilemma. I really want to get Kupo a girlfriend, but after reading everything about all the complications of breeding, and how I'd have to keep Kupo away during her heat, I'm not sure if I can really do it anymore. I live in apartment and I'm pretty sure Kupo would bark like any other dogs would do to get to the female... and I'm honestly getting discouraged after reading downsides of breeding...

So here is the other question... should I get another boy dog instead? I probably will get him full AKC too. This time I'll make sure to ask the breeder all the necessary questions when getting the next pup.. Their bite, topline, gait and all.. I think last time I was only concerned with his bite.. and if he was healthy and nothing else. I read that the puppy's personality and temperament determines if same sex dogs can be housed together. Kupo is really great. He's super friendly and he loves all animals and human. Kupo's trainer even uses Kupo sometimes for those shy dogs to overcome their problems. So I'm thinking he might do well with another boy dog, but I'm not completely sure since I wouldn't know other dog's personality right now.. since he's not even born yet. lol

Do you think intact male dogs will do well together?

ColesMommy01 · 07-16-2015, 07:13 AM

Having two fully intact males can lead to issues as they "have it out" for dominance. I have two intact of each sex and while it's not stressful with my two sets(they know I'm the boss) squabbles do and will happen.

My males do better with females than they do other males, but those are just my particular dogs and your dogs may be completely different.

Being that I have two sets of intact animals, two of which are adults and fully capable of reproducing; keeping them separated during fertile periods is a strain but not impossible. When my female goes into heat my male stays upstairs, behind a closed door and sometimes crated when she's let out.

She uses the bathroom at a different time than the rest of the pack, does not go for walks, is supervised while being outside, and is crated in a different room behind a locked door when the others are out. So basically she's a hermit for 21 days. It's not easy or fun.

That being said, that particular female is a larger breed and her heat is usually predictable so I can usually tell by her behavior and vulva enlargement when her heat is due. My male has never barked when she's in heat, but he's never been bred so I'm sure that diminishes his reaction to her substantially.

Kupo may be great with other animals now, but he's probably not yet sexually matured. Having another fully intact, able to reproduce male in what he considers "his" territory may bring out aspects of his personality you'd never imagine he'd have.

Think some more on it. Do you plan on using them both for stud?

Deviruchi · 07-16-2015, 07:26 AM

@colesmommy01, Thank you for the response. The thing is, currently, I live in a 2 room apartment, one being office and one being the bedroom.. and Kupo usually stays with me in office during the day and bedroom at night.. So I wasn't sure where I'd keep the female at...

And when does a dog reach their sexual maturity? I'm reading around 6 months, but kupo has been humping since 11 weeks and started to lift his leg around 3 months.. (after my family's cat came over..) and he's been marking since.. lol the vet was recommending that he should get neutered at 6 months (before knowing that I might get full AKC in the end), but when she heard he's humping and marking, she actually told me to start thinking of pediatric neutering to reduce those problems..

If I do get another dog, I do plan on keeping him as stud dog as well. It seems like boys are easier to care for.. especially they don't go through their heat cycles... and I'm sure Kupo would bark all night if his gf starts her cycle for 3 weeks at a time.. and I think neighbors would complain.. lol I still love the idea of Kupo having a girlfriend instead of just best friend though.. And as of now, pros and cons of getting him a gf evened out and I'm not sure which is better :/

ColesMommy01 · 07-16-2015, 08:18 AM

Usually dogs reach sexual maturity from 5-7 months. He humped as a younger puppy, but it could have been due to a show of dominance since he wouldn't have been able to produce sperm at such a young age.

During fertile cycles since space is limited, you could crate them both in separate rooms, behind locked doors, and put locks on their crates if need be. If you have a bathroom in one of the bedrooms, place a crate/xpen, lock bathroom door, and lock adjoining bedroom door. It may seem excessive but these pups are crafty.

Bitches usually sexually mature from 5.5-12 months when they have their first heat. *Note* just because a dog/bitch is sexually mature doesn't mean their physically/mentally mature.

If you are set on breeding, wait until a female becomes available who fits the criteria you'd want to implement into your breeding program. She needs to be able to offset the faults in whatever male you use as a stud. There's no rush to buy the perfect yorkie for you!

07-10-2015, 10:21 AM	#50
lisaly Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,891	Kupo is really adorable, and I can tell how much you love him. I think you really need to ask yourself why you want to breed Kupo. I've had five Yorkies in my adult life and many, many dogs growing up. I think every one of my Yorkies were/are gorgeous, and they all came from championship lines. I've never bred any of my little girls. I didn't know about just breeding to improve the breed, but my girls are/were my babies, and I didn't want to take any risks. They were all purchased on limited registration anyway. My mom had a poodle who she adored, and she lost her due to complications during a whelping. The male she bred him with was much smaller than her, but she didn't realize his lines were bigger. I was a little girl, but I remember it clearly, and my mom never bred one of her babies again. My Katie was bred twice by her breeder, but that was only after she was shown and received her championship. She came to live with me when she was three once she was retired from breeding. We want to make sure that our precious breed retains the qualities which make a Yorkie look, move, and act like a Yorkie. Our breed is plagued with so many health issues. I wasn't looking for a show dog when I brought Katie into our lives. I wanted a healthy, happy Yorkie with a good temperament who looked like the image I have in my mind of a Yorkie. She is a very special little girl. I went with Gemy to the Yorkie Specialty in Manhattan a few years ago. Razzle was being shown at the time, and I have never seen such beautiful movement from a Yorkie. Health, movement, and temperament are passions of hers, and Gemy also evaluates puppies. I learned so much listening to her talk about the movement of the dogs, which all looked beautiful to me. I was able to discern the difference with a little education from Gemy. She knows what she's talking about. I also shared with her the heartbreak when she decided her beautiful heart dog, her BRT Magic, could not be bred when he was diagnosed with juvenile cataracts at 5.75 years of age. He is a gorgeous dog with so many wonderful and desirable BRT traits. I have deep respect for breeders who breed for the right reasons. I'm so glad your asking questions and are looking into health testing Kupo. I definitely recommend going to a show to see other Yorkies and breeders. __________________ *Lisa and* Katie *Ashley 6/10,* *Gracie 2/04,* Kiwi 10/03, and Jolie 7/93 .

07-12-2015, 05:38 AM	#54
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,335 Blog Entries: 2	Here is a good instructional video on structure and movement patterns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlEPmaVxNOc Sickle hocked dogs are shown in this If I remember correctly the example is of Chi's. Now towards the end of your short vid look at how your dog walks over to the front of the is it a balconey? __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

07-12-2015, 06:03 AM	#55
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,335 Blog Entries: 2	[QUOTE=Deviruchi;4573351]@gemy whenever i walk him, its about 25-30 min per session. and usually we do it 2-3x a day and as for the sickle hock thing you pointed out.. do you think if i ask the vet about it, she'd know and see how he is? i mean.. she didn't even point out that his back was curved so i'm not sure if she'd know. lol.. thank you for explaining what it is, but i'm still not really getting it.. watched the vid like 5x now, focusing on his leg, but still not sure.. x_x; on here, it says the one in the right is sickle hock, but when i'm looking at kupo, his leg doesn't look like that.. should i try to take another vid later and see? (i'm probably in denial.. lol)[/QUOTooE] Understand that many photos of issues or problems show the extreme of that problem. Look at the Dogsteps video I posted earlier and really study it. Sickle hocked as I explained earlier is the failure of the hock joint to extend and or flex fully when the dog is walking trotting etc. It is not so much positional as shown in that static photo but shows itself clearly on movement. Look at show Yorkies and try to objectively compare your dog to these pics. Cute is no reason to breed a dog - they need a lot more than cute. And quite frankly dogs don't think about wanting to be a father or a mother. That is we humans who want this. Also read these threads in the breeding library if you have not already. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...t-breeder.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...-answered.html __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

07-10-2015, 05:14 AM	#46
ColesMommy01 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: where there's no good sushi Posts: 1,423 Blog Entries: 1	Do you have a vet that specializes in small breeds in your area? If you're keen on breeding any potential Yorkie you may want to find one. Most vets deal with all breeds and won't know all the specifics that go with a well structured Yorkshire Terrier. Although, good vets usually make it a point to have breeders numbers on speed dial if they have a question concerning a particular breed. There's a term my breeder has used when owners try to evaluate their own dogs called "kennel blind". It basically means we can't see the faults in our own animals and we think they're darn near perfect. Are there any breeders you respect in your area who would be able to critique Kupo in person? Not including his breeder.

07-10-2015, 07:07 AM	#47
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	@colesmommy01 erm.. i'm not sure.. i've been going to this vet that my trainer recommended and she's really nice and kind.. and kupo is loved there. he actually went to 2 vets so far.. but i changed my first one since they were rude and cold towards me and kupo... it seemed like they just wanted to get money and didnt care for animals.. lol yeah i think i'm kennel blind.. i can't stop loving him. he's just too adorable. <3 i was just trying to eval him since i didn't know his back was curved and it's been annoying me lol i think i googled and looked up everything that relates to roached back and arched loin for first 10 pages.. lol (making sure he'd be ok..) i am looking for some other breeders, but so far i only got to contact one breeder, but she's out of state.. so far she's saying that she just don't know about show, since his hair is so short, but that's fixable since hair grows... but she just stated that he was a really cute and should have beautiful babies. and i was looking into ytca and apparently there is no yorkie clubs in arkansas.. or atleast i can't find one.. ugh :/ should i start emailing ytca and see what they say about kupo lol.

07-10-2015, 07:51 AM	#48
ColesMommy01 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: where there's no good sushi Posts: 1,423 Blog Entries: 1	Have you thought of joining an All Breed Club? There are plenty of All Breed Clubs in Arkansas, I'm not sure if any are close to you, but there should be at least one other member within the All Breed Club with a yorkie who shows/breeds. Where I'm located there's an All Breed Club about 20 minutes away but a Yorkshire Terrier Club about 90 minutes away. I would recommend that you contact a member within the YTCA that is close to you and you wouldn't mind traveling to visit if possible(there's one located in Germantown,TN). Although preferred, you don't have to have a Yorkshire Terrier breeder help you with everything. I've learned quite a bit from other toy breeders, especially Maltese breeders. You definitely want a breeder/mentor who you can call and ask any question without feeling silly and is close distance wise in case an emergency arises. I've spoken with a few breeders about a plethora of subjects and they all do things a little differently from each other.

07-10-2015, 07:53 AM	#49
ColesMommy01 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: where there's no good sushi Posts: 1,423 Blog Entries: 1	https://www.apps.akc.org//apps/clubs...uestTimeout=90

07-11-2015, 06:02 PM	#51
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	@colesmommy01 i never heard of all breed club before.. lol i'm looking for mentors, but i'm not sure how to approach one or how to look for one exactly.. lol. maybe you can be my mentor @lisaly thank you i really do love him a lot <3 i'm sorry about your mom's poodle. she must have been heartbroken. gemy does seem very knowledgeable i def. learned some new terms from her and colesommomy01. i never knew about topline and sickle hock. now i'm teaching him sit/beg/sit-pretty command to strengthen his muscles also made some appts for his consulation with a vet to ask about bat exam as well as regarding his back and possibly sickle hock... (when i went to ask around, they said his legs seems good though). i just want kupo to grow up healthy, and i want to take all preventive measures to make him stay healthy

07-12-2015, 05:07 AM	#52
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	Btw guys what do you of the first puppy shown here (her topline?) She's shown as example of being an ideal yorkie but her back doesn't seem straight to me? O.o (trying to learn) topline figure 1?

07-12-2015, 07:13 PM	#56
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	@gemy, thank you for the informative video and the links it made me understand some things better. i assumed that the link i provided were using standard yorkie that ppl love, since i thought they were trying to teach others about yorkie.. so i kind of got confused looking at that first pic lol i'm now in search of show breeders around my area, but i couldn't find any. the breeder i got my puppy from showed some yorkies, but i wanted to get other ppl's opinions too on kupo. but i def. considered the both pros and cons and potential risks on breeding.. and i do admit i am scared of what may happen to the female dog i may have, or the babies since i'm not experienced... so.. i'm still in middle of researching.. on the link you shared so you want to be a breeder? i was kind of surprised of things i already thought about and some things i didn't even think about. i knew that there can be complications during birth, but i didn't know all the types of complications they listed in their post.. it was def. something to think about. thank you again for helping me with my dilemma it's really interesting to learn all these

07-15-2015, 06:06 PM	#57
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	Ok guys.. quick update.. I've decided to keep Kupo as full AKC and went ahead and got him registered. I'm also going to the kennel club event hosting next month in my area. I've contacted the president of the club and he said he'll help me with the process and get me introduced to yorkie people in the club. But now here is my other dilemma. I really want to get Kupo a girlfriend, but after reading everything about all the complications of breeding, and how I'd have to keep Kupo away during her heat, I'm not sure if I can really do it anymore. I live in apartment and I'm pretty sure Kupo would bark like any other dogs would do to get to the female... and I'm honestly getting discouraged after reading downsides of breeding... So here is the other question... should I get another boy dog instead? I probably will get him full AKC too. This time I'll make sure to ask the breeder all the necessary questions when getting the next pup.. Their bite, topline, gait and all.. I think last time I was only concerned with his bite.. and if he was healthy and nothing else. I read that the puppy's personality and temperament determines if same sex dogs can be housed together. Kupo is really great. He's super friendly and he loves all animals and human. Kupo's trainer even uses Kupo sometimes for those shy dogs to overcome their problems. So I'm thinking he might do well with another boy dog, but I'm not completely sure since I wouldn't know other dog's personality right now.. since he's not even born yet. lol Do you think intact male dogs will do well together?

07-16-2015, 07:13 AM	#58
ColesMommy01 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: where there's no good sushi Posts: 1,423 Blog Entries: 1	Having two fully intact males can lead to issues as they "have it out" for dominance. I have two intact of each sex and while it's not stressful with my two sets(they know I'm the boss) squabbles do and will happen. My males do better with females than they do other males, but those are just my particular dogs and your dogs may be completely different. Being that I have two sets of intact animals, two of which are adults and fully capable of reproducing; keeping them separated during fertile periods is a strain but not impossible. When my female goes into heat my male stays upstairs, behind a closed door and sometimes crated when she's let out. She uses the bathroom at a different time than the rest of the pack, does not go for walks, is supervised while being outside, and is crated in a different room behind a locked door when the others are out. So basically she's a hermit for 21 days. It's not easy or fun. That being said, that particular female is a larger breed and her heat is usually predictable so I can usually tell by her behavior and vulva enlargement when her heat is due. My male has never barked when she's in heat, but he's never been bred so I'm sure that diminishes his reaction to her substantially. Kupo may be great with other animals now, but he's probably not yet sexually matured. Having another fully intact, able to reproduce male in what he considers "his" territory may bring out aspects of his personality you'd never imagine he'd have. Think some more on it. Do you plan on using them both for stud?

07-16-2015, 07:26 AM	#59
Deviruchi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: i like to hide under things Posts: 226	@colesmommy01, Thank you for the response. The thing is, currently, I live in a 2 room apartment, one being office and one being the bedroom.. and Kupo usually stays with me in office during the day and bedroom at night.. So I wasn't sure where I'd keep the female at... And when does a dog reach their sexual maturity? I'm reading around 6 months, but kupo has been humping since 11 weeks and started to lift his leg around 3 months.. (after my family's cat came over..) and he's been marking since.. lol the vet was recommending that he should get neutered at 6 months (before knowing that I might get full AKC in the end), but when she heard he's humping and marking, she actually told me to start thinking of pediatric neutering to reduce those problems.. If I do get another dog, I do plan on keeping him as stud dog as well. It seems like boys are easier to care for.. especially they don't go through their heat cycles... and I'm sure Kupo would bark all night if his gf starts her cycle for 3 weeks at a time.. and I think neighbors would complain.. lol I still love the idea of Kupo having a girlfriend instead of just best friend though.. And as of now, pros and cons of getting him a gf evened out and I'm not sure which is better :/

07-16-2015, 08:18 AM	#60
ColesMommy01 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: where there's no good sushi Posts: 1,423 Blog Entries: 1	Usually dogs reach sexual maturity from 5-7 months. He humped as a younger puppy, but it could have been due to a show of dominance since he wouldn't have been able to produce sperm at such a young age. During fertile cycles since space is limited, you could crate them both in separate rooms, behind locked doors, and put locks on their crates if need be. If you have a bathroom in one of the bedrooms, place a crate/xpen, lock bathroom door, and lock adjoining bedroom door. It may seem excessive but these pups are crafty. Bitches usually sexually mature from 5.5-12 months when they have their first heat. Note just because a dog/bitch is sexually mature doesn't mean their physically/mentally mature. If you are set on breeding, wait until a female becomes available who fits the criteria you'd want to implement into your breeding program. She needs to be able to offset the faults in whatever male you use as a stud. There's no rush to buy the perfect yorkie for you!