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Old 06-11-2015, 10:07 AM   #16
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The best food to feed a yorkie? A food that they'll accept and thrive on. I'm currently feeding Primal freeze dried formulas and I'm going to keep them on it as long as they'll eat it(yorkies are notoriously picky! I never had this problem with my bulldog lol). We've gone through Royal Canin, Taste of the Wild, Solid Gold, Fromm, and Stella and Chewy. I would recommend all the prior foods because I've seen dogs do great on them, but either my dogs started to turn their noses up, had digestive issues, or I started to see negative side effects from them(tear staining, bones poking, etc). Dogs are individuals and what may work for one won't for another. If you're interested in a particular brand, I suggest emailing them and asking if they have samples.
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My first choice is Farmina and second choice is Fromm. Do some research on Farmina and I don't think you will disappointed.
Does look like good food. I never seen or heard of it before. I feed Homemade and Fromms. IMO Homemade I control all the ingredients. I can use organic fresh meat and veggies. I know where they came from. Kibble imo is a low form of a food source. All processed. But I still feed kibble everyday. Because I want my dog to eat it when theres times we are on the go. Breakfast is Fromms because they will eat it . Lunch and dinner is homemade. JME
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I home cook for my animals. I occasionally use royal canin kibble as a back up. My dogs are living long lives, happy and overall pretty healthy. There are many choices out there. I don't have a problem with Purina either, I trust the company and have fed Purina foods on occasion.
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Purina for me = Chinese jerky law suits. Any food from China I won't feed. Search Purina law suit. Just to many ppl complaining and problems for me to trust them. Most of there food ingredients is horrible. They make inferior food. Simple
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JMO ppl who like Purina and your dogs are health good. But if I were searching for something I wouldn't get any food from a Manufacture that has it made in China. If the food is made here. I would need to recognize the firs 4-6 foods as being good. Not like bi product meat. That means it can be stored at any temperature grow bacteria and simple not know what its made of
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I trust purina. I don't base my opinions on Internet complainers. There are many very satisfied customers or they wouldn't be racing to the top.
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That is not true at all it's a myth.
I agree with the OP that some vets sell foods they profit off of. Most don't but there are lots of jerks in the world.
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I agree with the OP that some vets sell foods they profit off of. Most don't but there are lots of jerks in the world.
The vets I have been to only sell prescription food so I was basing that on the myth that vets push prescription foods to make money.
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I trust purina. I don't base my opinions on Internet complainers. There are many very satisfied customers or they wouldn't be racing to the top.
Sure but thats alot of complainers. Like no other food. Its just as easy to me to find a better food ingredient wise and stay away from China made products. I know they have Usa stuff also. But I take it as a whole. You like them you have luck good. I'm just putting my opinion out there. PPl can research themselves.Purina is inexpensive and sold in the Grocery store. Most ppl don't research foods and just buy whats cheap anyways. Its just a dog to them

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The vets I have been to only sell prescription food so I was basing that on the myth that vets push prescription foods to make money.
Well, I'm sure there are vets in the world who *do* push Rx foods for profit. There are unscrupulous vets in the world, just like w/ anything. Granted, not a lot is made off of selling food but the fact remains that they do indeed make some money by selling their own foods. These are companies who pandered to them during school, btw, too. And believe me, I've seen that pandering first hand from being in nursing school and seeing big pharma vendors who cultivate relationships w/ students (ie, med students/dentists). It's not exactly what I'd call an ethical relationship, at least not in my book.

That said, there is a necessary place for these Rx diets and I'm grateful we have them at the end of the day.
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Well, I'm sure there are vets in the world who *do* push Rx foods for profit. There are unscrupulous vets in the world, just like w/ anything.from being in nursing school and seeing big pharma vendors who cultivate relationships w/ students (ie, med students/dentists). It's not exactly what I'd call an ethical relationship, at least not in my book.
A vet tech tried to sell me an item that emits a scent. I then could place a stuffed animal in the room with the smell and let my dog "get his groove back" away from company. I've never had humping issues with my male dogs and thought it was odd; I later found out the vet's office recieves some type of kickback for it. As far the pharmaceutical and food companies inciting future students...let's just say I received a lot of free lunches during nursing school
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Here's what we decided to go with and why:

Background: 3 small dogs. An old yorkie(unknown age), a young mix(guessing 2 1/2 yo yorkie head and colored, shih tzu body, hair and tail), a miniature pomeranian puppy(papered champion line).

Given the debates and disputes on higher protein, crystals in the kidney, grain free vs not, corn vs no corn, varying ages, unknown histories, and current conditions of our dogs, ect... We opted for something in the middle. A food that seems to be a quality food but isn't a grain free(referring to the kibble selection), it is in the brand's quality line though same as their grain free selections.

I placed high on my list of importance certain regulated terms, as well as other items:

1) "Formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for all life stages."

Three dogs varying life stages! As some will point out if I don't write this, this term does not mean they have completed the "feeding trial" with AAFCO. It also doesn't mean they haven't.

2) "Complete and Balanced", that's an FDA regulated term. A food that doesn't pass one of the two requirements can not use it anywhere in their packaging or advertising.
?Complete and Balanced? Pet Food

Kibble, left down for them to eat whenever they so choose, so they never want for anything at any time: Fromm Four-Star Nutritionals, Duck and Sweet Potato. "Complete and Balanced Nutrition for dogs of all ages" which automatically means:
"To have "complete and balanced" in the nutritional adequacy statement, a dog food must either:

Meet one of the Dog Food Nutrient Profiles established by the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) or
Pass an AAFCO feeding trial."

Canned, given to our dogs at specified meal times with chicken bits because Mamma is a softy: Fromm Gold Duck and Chicken pate'. Also AAFCO compliant for all stages which qualifies it for, you guessed it, "complete and balanced".

I'm not a nutritionist, I rely on the manufacturer to get the balanced nutrition in the bag or can. I'm relying on 95%+ positive reviews from consumers, FDA and AAFCO compliance and regulations. I'm relying on an ingredient list that sounds good, gives me the warm fuzzies. 3-4 separate probiotics in the ingredient list of the kibble(I'm not a scientist either). I'm relying on the lack of any recall that I can find on their product. I love Fromm's long lengthy history and recommend any one already using it to read it if you're into that sort of thing.
Our History - Fromm Family Foods

I'm new to the Fromm line. I'm looking forward to using them from here on out because their formulas are matched up closely enough to switch from one formula to the next, kibble to canned, with out much concern for a transition period. A little variance in formula from year to year or month to month can only be good thing over the long term a decade down the road.

Fromm isn't locally available in many places. I opted for deliveries from chewy.com for reasons I stated in an earlier thread.

There are lots of good quality foods out there! Choose a few, research them, make your own decision.... The term "BEST" is arbitrary and subject to opinion and criticism. I opted for a feed that doesn't have active controversial ingredients as best as I could figure out. Our three boys seem to really like it so far, fingers crossed!

Side note on the pate' and slightly humorous and gross at the same time: I do taste the foods that I feed our pups, from the taste of the pate', if I were to add salt, onion and garlic powder it would make a wonderful spread I suspect! Anyone want to come over for dinner?

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Well, I'm sure there are vets in the world who *do* push Rx foods for profit. There are unscrupulous vets in the world, just like w/ anything. Granted, not a lot is made off of selling food but the fact remains that they do indeed make some money by selling their own foods. These are companies who pandered to them during school, btw, too. And believe me, I've seen that pandering first hand from being in nursing school and seeing big pharma vendors who cultivate relationships w/ students (ie, med students/dentists). It's not exactly what I'd call an ethical relationship, at least not in my book.

That said, there is a necessary place for these Rx diets and I'm grateful we have them at the end of the day.
I looked up I think on chewy and a few other places that sell my dogs prescription food and the price was the same so I know my vets not making a killing on prescription food they also don't push it. Most vets are not crooked but I'm sure the ones that are do make lots of money on dog food but it's not the normal.
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Sure but thats alot of complainers. Like no other food. Its just as easy to me to find a better food ingredient wise and stay away from China made products. I know they have Usa stuff also. But I take it as a whole. You like them you have luck good. I'm just putting my opinion out there. PPl can research themselves.Purina is inexpensive and sold in the Grocery store. Most ppl don't research foods and just buy whats cheap anyways. Its just a dog to them
Purina Beyond, kibble and canned, isn't priced all that cheap, last time I looked, it was on par with Fromm pricing at chewy. But, since that is the case, a simple glance at the two ingredient and analysis lists showed me that Fromm is the better buy. My point being, if a person is going to buy Purina Beyond all of the time, look around at better foods that are similarly priced, you'll end up getting better food for your money. In that regard, I agree with you. Gawd, I hope there isn't a yorkie still eating that Purina sub line that has the complaints on it... that is the cheap stuff, it is making dogs sick and a small dog really should not be eating it. Last I looked, it was Purina's CHEAP line of food that has real issues currently. May as well feed Ole Roy!

We've used Purina Beyond in a pinch, till we had the time to get another brand elsewhere. "My Three Sons" seemed to thoroughly enjoy it..... and their systems transitioned easily to it.... Merricks, gave them Montezuma's Revenge! Our healthiest middle boy was popping out something that looked gelatinous like an after birth while on Merricks. I wouldn't hesitate using Purina Beyond in the future since our boys did well on it for the short term before, again, that's in a pinch if we unexpectedly run out of, or, forget to pack dog food for a trip.

Sounded like the majority of most vitamins are coming out of china now, it's going to be in nearly every processed food product, pet or human. You might look into that Mike, it's been a while since I have. Correct me if I'm wrong! Please! I'd rather be corrected than to believe something that just isn't true.
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A vet tech tried to sell me an item that emits a scent. I then could place a stuffed animal in the room with the smell and let my dog "get his groove back" away from company. I've never had humping issues with my male dogs and thought it was odd; I later found out the vet's office recieves some type of kickback for it. As far the pharmaceutical and food companies inciting future students...let's just say I received a lot of free lunches during nursing school
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