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12-08-2014, 07:00 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kettering, Ohio
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| Color Dilution Alopecia Been looking at several links, posts and pictures. Does anyone else in the forum have a fur baby with CDA? |
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12-09-2014, 12:08 AM | #2 |
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| I've never heard of it but maybe some breeders here have? Check back regularly! |
12-09-2014, 03:38 AM | #3 |
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| Thanks Misty! Sadly I am told that puppies that exhibit this genetic disorder are sometimes euthanized...they require additional care...but I couldn't bear to think of life without my Zombie. Would like to meet others that face this additional challenge. |
12-09-2014, 03:49 AM | #4 | |
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That is horrible if, as the name of the conditions suggests, the defect is limited to the expression of the follicles with no comorbidity in other genes and mutations affecting health and/or temperament. Argh, people are so annoying with their aesthetic preferences taking priority over the dogs life!!!! Your dog is lucky to have you as an understanding owner. xxxxxxxxxxxx | |
12-09-2014, 05:35 AM | #5 |
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12-09-2014, 06:09 AM | #6 |
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| They are also called blue born yorkies. The breeders dont euthanize them anymore they just sell them at a reduced price with a spay/neuter contract
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12-09-2014, 07:26 AM | #7 |
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| Look up KendraE here ... she has one. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19222868
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12-09-2014, 08:12 AM | #8 |
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| From the very brief research I've done today, CDA does not always equal "blue born" as blue born almost always = health problems but blue born can develop CDA. Therefore, from my understanding, there is a correlation between the two conditions but they are mutually exclusive ie conditions in their own right with different presentations, implications, etc. I think that is probably why you are getting conflicting info as some equate both as the same condition which is not necessarily true from what I can tell... I hope someone with experience of CDA can help .. Have you checked with your vet? |
12-09-2014, 08:33 AM | #9 | |
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12-09-2014, 08:36 AM | #10 | |
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Sorry I keep coming back to this but I am a researcher so my curiosity and your comment re: euthanasia and additional care motivated me to learn more. This site MLPH Genotype?Melanin Phenotype Correlation in Dilute Dogs offers more info re the phenotype of CDA and what the relationship is in terms of care. From what I can tell, it appears that there is some follicular build up as a result of the condition in SOME breeds but nothing which is fatal. Obviously, any dog with any sort of condition such as CDA should not be bred as CDA is as a result of a gene mutation. Have you spoken to your vet about what additional care may be required? From what I can tell, the most severe cases of CDA results in skin lesions which can be treated. Therefore, I think it is vital that you do not get the condition "blue born" and CDA confused and a vet should be able to put your mind to ease if you are confused by any confliction info/opinions re: these conditions. | |
12-09-2014, 08:39 AM | #11 | |
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12-09-2014, 08:41 AM | #12 | |
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Thank you! To satisfy my own curiosity, the vet is going to call me back to confirm. I will let everyone know what they say ie is it the same condition, different conditions, prognosis etc. They advised they will call back this evening or tomorrow. | |
12-09-2014, 08:46 AM | #13 |
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| In the past breeders feared this so much that pups born with this would be euthanized. Now that more is known they dont do that anymore. All pups born with this are born a grey blue color. I have seen many on here that only had hair loss. Even if there is a health problem with this it affects the skin not skeletal or organs or muscle. There is still alot of misunderstanding with this because it is rare but its not a death sentence at all and never has been
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12-09-2014, 08:49 AM | #14 |
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| Most vets have never heard of blue born it is a breeder term so I doubt your vet can confirm anything
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12-09-2014, 08:50 AM | #15 | |
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Yes, I think you're exactly right in what you've said above.. I think "blue born" when you look it up on some sites suggest that it is a fatal disease whereas CDA is known to affect the coat only. I think the terminology is being mixed up over the internet which is why blue borns and CDA = cause for euthanasia like the OP suggested and is potentially causing them worry where it isn't warranted or at least not to any large degree. This site, for example, suggests blue born is a very disabling condition: Goldenray Genetics Chocolate Yorkies Red Golden or Yorkie Blue Borns CDA This is not in line with CDA research material. I think we are on the same page here but expressing it differently..lol Good job!! | |
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