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Old 08-28-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
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Animal Smiley 049 A Case for Crates / Crate Training

Here-in are all the reasons, I crate train all my dogs. In somewhat order of importance:

1. When travelling your dog is pretty safe in a crate. Also their medical records can be attached to the crate, along with any special instructions on removing your dog for their crate.

2. When you have workmen/servicemen, and or guests over, your dog can be safeguarded from them, and there is no risk of them escaping out a front door that is left ajar.

3. Going to the vets, and your dog needs to stay the day or overnight. A dog that is used to being crated has one less stressor in being in a strange place.

4. When you are visiting friends n family, and or staying in a hotel, your dog is used to staying in their crate. It helps to make them an ideal guest.

5. If you wish to do performance events with your dog, the standard practice is to have your dog in a crate when not competing. And if you compete with multiple dogs, it is a necessity.

6. If you should adopt a new pet, or rescue a dog with issues, there is a secure place for your first dog to go into.

7. If you are a breeder it is pretty well a necessity that you will need to crate and rotate as the saying goes.

I think that crates are a wonderfull tool to use for you and your dog. Can this tool be abused? Of course, just like any other tool or device.

My dogs go into their crates when-ever they want to, not just when I ask them to GoToCrate.

Crate Safety:

If you use a wire crate, you must remove collars. It is a pain, how-ever there is a small risk that a buckle or what-ever on their collar could get hung up on a part of the crate.

The pans need to be washed out frequently as dust/debris does accumulate.

Once a month or so, scan the inside of the crate for its integrity.

If your dog tends to chew the bars, consider a hard sided crate.







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I also crate train, and I always have. If I'm being honest, it's more like condo training Sheldon because his crate is huge. Technically way too big for him, but he gets a pad, a bed, toys, and a food/water dish (other than overnight he is rarely in it for more than an hour).
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I agree with crate training too. I did not use the crate as much as I probably should have in the beginning for potty training, but I am a stay at home mom and was able to keep my eye on her at all times. I always keep her large crate open in the living room and she will sometimes go in there to chew on a toy or run in there when she gets her paws on something she's not supposed to have lol. Some reason she thinks a wire crate is a good hiding place! It was handy when we were having furniture delivered or doing something that she needs to be away for safety. She still sleeps in her crate every night. She sleeps in my bed if I'm watching tv at night, but as soon as I'm ready for bed she knows it's time to go in her crate. It works for us!
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All great reasons . . I am an avid crate trainer and user !
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Gemy I see nothing wrong with crating either but sometimes you are married to someone that just wont let you or wont budge on it. He thinks it is cruel and Im never going to convince him other wise. He wouldnt even let me use the crate method of potty training even though I know it is the best and easiest way to train. Thats why I have dogs that piss on the floor
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Gemy I see nothing wrong with crating either but sometimes you are married to someone that just wont let you or wont budge on it. He thinks it is cruel and Im never going to convince him other wise. He wouldnt even let me use the crate method of potty training even though I know it is the best and easiest way to train. Thats why I have dogs that piss on the floor
I am so sorry Chachi, that your husband has these concrete views. But hey that is marriage, sometimes we just have to agree to disagree, and go along with what hubby wants/needs.

Maybe you could have him clean up all the potty accidents?
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I am so sorry Chachi, that your husband has these concrete views. But hey that is marriage, sometimes we just have to agree to disagree, and go along with what hubby wants/needs.

Maybe you could have him clean up all the potty accidents?
He does we at least have them going to the bathroom in our upstairs bathroom on a rug and its his job to clean it up. But we will never have another dog unless he agrees to let me crate train it
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Gemy I see nothing wrong with crating either but sometimes you are married to someone that just wont let you or wont budge on it. He thinks it is cruel and Im never going to convince him other wise. He wouldnt even let me use the crate method of potty training even though I know it is the best and easiest way to train. Thats why I have dogs that piss on the floor
Butting in, sorry if it seems rude. I don't know how long you've dealt with this with your husband, but I'm curious if you've explained the whole crate = den for a dog to him? It is completely natural for a dog to not only need but want their own space, and have dens in the wild, as I'm sure you know.

Every dog I have ever had, even if they didn't love the idea initially, would eventually go to their crates on their own for peace and comfort once it was established as theirs. Sheldon is only fourteen weeks old and already goes in it on his on from time to time.

This may be redundant to you, I just wasn't sure what you've tried to get your husband to budge. Husbands sure can be tough sometimes

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Thank you for the post. Without being trained to love their crates, a dog isn't best-served by his owner as there are always times in life they must spend some time in a crate. My dogs would always "crate up" happily on command any time.
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I think a dog that learns to love his crate is wonderful, though we only use ours for car travel. We found an expen works better for us at home.
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I think a dog that learns to love his crate is wonderful, though we only use ours for car travel. We found an expen works better for us at home.
I think Xpens are just fine too! Especially when you have small dogs, they can still have a safe haven, and lots of room to roam in. It is not so easy when you have multiple large dogs though Although I do know one breeder/exhibitor who happily uses outdoor Xpens when at the show grounds He has trained them never to jump the pen. I just could not do that - would not trust that some idiot would stick their hand through or above the pen to say Hi!

When exhibiting or if we are staying in a home with young children, when dogs go to their crates for the night we also lock the crate, so young tots don't get tempted to play with doggies when we are not around
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Thank you for the post. Without being trained to love their crates, a dog isn't best-served by his owner as there are always times in life they must spend some time in a crate. My dogs would always "crate up" happily on command any time.
I think all of my pets are best-served by me and they are not all crate trained. Some like it, some do not and while it sounds great on paper it is not realistic for all dogs, especially those who come to us as adults with their own "baggage". You can teach an old dog new tricks, but some of life's horrible lessons cannot be undone.

Crate training can absolutely be great ... but, I must say that I see many people who crate all day...and crate at night. Makes me crazy. I am certainly not saying anything against this thread.....just commenting that I don't think the fact some of mine are not crated makes me less of a pet owner.
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I think all of my pets are best-served by me and they are not all crate trained. Some like it, some do not and while it sounds great on paper it is not realistic for all dogs, especially those who come to us as adults with their own "baggage". You can teach an old dog new tricks, but some of life's horrible lessons cannot be undone.

Crate training can absolutely be great ... but, I must say that I see many people who crate all day...and crate at night. Makes me crazy. I am certainly not saying anything against this thread.....just commenting that I don't think the fact some of mine are not crated makes me less of a pet owner.
Rescues of injured and traumatized dogs are always different, Linda, and not the general norm as I was addressing. But sadly, some foster/rescue/troubled dogs must be crated for their own safety and that of others when they are new to a setting and the new dog is dog-or-human aggressive, especially if the dog is sizable.

And I said "crate-training" not jail. Far too many people jail their dogs for over-long periods and it drives most dogs mad. And angers me to even hear of it. But all dogs should be trained to feel at ease and remain in a crate for up to 4 hours if need be without freaking out. Most normal, healthy dogs can come to accept the occasional stay in a crate with great equanimity and just relax and go to sleep with some preparation and training.
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Oh I forgot one excellent use (how could I forget this one), with large and small breeds especially when adding a new addition to your pack, the crates can keep small ones safe from the big guys, until puppy learns and the pack learns to co-exist peacefully!

And for me my choice is to crate my wee dog Razzle at night. Dara is almost ready to be out on her bed beside my bed now, as her housebreaking is complete and her incessant chewing seems to have subsided And well as large dog owners, we simply do not allow any dog to sleep on the bed with us. With two sharing a bed, I would not sleep easy, thinking I might rollover on Razzle.

Our one concession is to allow Razzman up on the furniture which the big dogs are not allowed on at all. Although much to my chagrin when we were up at the cottage and I got up in the middle of the night, I found my senior boy Magic up on the couch!!! He did not even look guilty! Well the couch I had covered with an extra sheet, so given his age he does get some perks as a senior
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Rescues of injured and traumatized dogs are always different, Linda, and not the general norm as I was addressing. But sadly, some foster/rescue/troubled dogs must be crated for their own safety and that of others when they are new to a setting and the new dog is dog-or-human aggressive, especially if the dog is sizable.

And I said "crate-training" not jail. Far too many people jail their dogs for over-long periods and it drives most dogs mad. And angers me to even hear of it. But all dogs should be trained to feel at ease and remain in a crate for up to 4 hours if need be without freaking out. Most normal, healthy dogs can come to accept the occasional stay in a crate with great equanimity and just relax and go to sleep with some preparation and training.
I was merely saying it because of your wording and someone might come along and think they should shove a dog in a crate even though it is not ready for it.

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