Where is her hair?

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Kaylee32

Yes all three of her other littermate's were nothing but yorkie. Like I said before, the lady that she got her from we have known forever and I have never seen her have anything but yorkies. We saw them not long after they were born and as they were getting older and there was never any other dogs around. the reason she got her was because she was always the one that came and crawled in her lap every time she came around. She is nothing but sweet and regardless she will be more than loved.

Here's some more ideas of what could have happened: Unless this is a rare mutation of coat, coloring and even conformation, there's a practical explanation. If the breeder friend is truly trustworthy, wouldn't switch papers, things like that, and unless she's inbreeding, she undoubtedly uses outside lines and brings in other dogs/farms out her dogs to cross lines so doubtless the switch, if there was one, occurred in one of those dogs or its parent/recent ancestor. Or a small little dark and tan interloper got to one of her females unbeknownst to her during a potty/play/walk/boarding/vet/pet-setting session or the other dog came for a visit with a friend and their owners left it and one of her females alone together for a few minutes.

[Sunnydayz]

I agree she looks part chi. Also maybe it's possible that a chi might have mated with the mommy, without your grandmothers friend knowing. It's amazing what a male dog will do to get to a female in heat. I once owned 2 chows, a male and a female. When my female went into heat, I locked my male in the garage to keep him away from her while I was at work. My male chow named Rex, actually chewed a large enough hole through my garage door while I was at work, then also chewed a hole through my house back door and made it to daisy, getting her pregnant. I think even though the siblings looked like your pup, really doesn't matter as each pup can have a different father. I would also be very Leary of who is doing the DNA, results can be mixed p or even false. But no matter, as long as you all love the pup that's all that matters as long as it was just purchased as a pet xoxo :-) the pup is adorable regardless and looks very sweet and happy.

Welcome and hope to see pics as the cutie pie grows and develops :-)

[DBlain]

what makes this strange is like you say you have known the breeder for years, so she does not sound like someone that would be out to screw your family. You are new to Yorkie Talk so you have most likely not seen the hundreds of threads started by people that were screwed intentionally by breeders either with off standard dogs, mixed dogs, dogs that were younger than stated and so forth, it a shame but it is growing more common so that is why a bunch of us have questions or opinions about the breeder.

Odd but I guess it will not be something we can figure out, I am just glad she has become part of your family. I am curious though since you have two yorkies what did you think when you first saw the pup, did she look like a yorkie pup to you? Also since it seems like this is not the breeders first time with litters what's her opinion of why this pup does not look much like a yorkie.

[DBlain]

you said her dad was a wire haired yorkie, that is not a term I hear when talking about a purebred yorkie, do you have pictures of the parents, that might help explain things

[Kaylee32]

I always thought it was strange that she never looked as much like the other ones and I did tell my grandmother my concerns, but it is the one that my grandmother loved from the beginning and all she was wanting was a great companion not one to breed or anything so I let her choose the one she wanted. I do trust the lady, however so I am really just unsure as to what the deal is. Of course both of my babies were complete fur balls from the beginning so I did think it was odd and it is still strange that she looks like she does and all the others look like normal yorkies. Regardless she is a sweetheart, but it is still one big mystery. And as far as DNA test go, I had them all done through the two vets office in my town. i checked for purebred, which came up positive, and I checked one for any crossbreeds just to see if maybe something came up and that one came back with no results

[Kaylee32]

This is the dad. I will post a picture of the mom whenever I can.

[Carmeow]

Looks like a chihuahua and min pinscher.

[DBlain]

pup does not look like dad, from what I can see the dad has pretty coloring and very shinny hair. He has floppy ears but tons of yorkies do not have ears that stand straight up. Dad does look like a yorkie though. I am just glad that you grandmother is not upset and loves the pup. BTW what is the pups name, LOL I think in all this time discussing her you have not said.

[Kaylee32]

Her name is Lucy Kate! And yes she does love her. The mom looks a lot like the dad, except she is more silver and tan.

[Islandloverr]

Correct me if I'm wrong...because I'm just going off of theory...and I don't know much about breeding and how genetics work in dogs. But this situation reminds me of genetics from ancestors showing up in later descendants. For example great great great great British grandmother's blue eyes showing up in great great great great black grandson....skipping generations but then showing up randomly. Is that impossible in the dog world? Knowing that the Yorkshire Terrier is a result of many ancient breeds mixed together, is it not possible for some pups to come out with certain traits from ancestors?.....red legs, facial structure, no/ little hair?

[Lovetodream88]

I am thinking the DNA test must be flawed because this really really does not look like a yorkie

[Kaylee32]

It just is odd that the test would be flawed twice. Not saying it is not possible, just odd. And I forgot to mention she doesnt shed at all like I know most chihuahuas do and others do.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Kaylee32

It just is odd that the test would be flawed twice. Not saying it is not possible, just odd. And I forgot to mention she doesnt shed at all like I know most chihuahuas do and others do.

I have read and heard from people that they are not 100%. Maybe it picked up on some yorkie in the dog and went on that not sure but that looks nothing like a yorkie and I would think if it where just a short haired yorkie it would still have all the other features and look like just a yorkie with short hair.

[Magnus]

Originally Posted by Islandloverr

Correct me if I'm wrong...because I'm just going off of theory...and I don't know much about breeding and how genetics work in dogs. But this situation reminds me of genetics from ancestors showing up in later descendants. For example great great great great British grandmother's blue eyes showing up in great great great great black grandson....skipping generations but then showing up randomly. Is that impossible in the dog world? Knowing that the Yorkshire Terrier is a result of many ancient breeds mixed together, is it not possible for some pups to come out with certain traits from ancestors?.....red legs, facial structure, no/ little hair?

So... I don't know how comparable this is but it just popped in my head. Freshmen in college, I met bunch of new friends. Mostly Koreans. But there was this one girl that was non Korean, Anna. My best guess was that she was Hispanic. One night, we were all at a friend's room. I started saying something in Korean b/c I couldn't find the correct translation. Then Anna replied in Korean. She spoke Korean fluently. I was totally shocked and I asked when she learned. Apparently, she was full Korean. We all thought she was joking so she ended up getting her family picture from her room to show us. I ended up carefully asking if she was adopted. She just laughed and said no. And she understands our reaction b/c she gets it all the time.

Obviously, we weren't going to ask for DNA proof. LOL But unless her parents did adopt her and have been lying to her, as far as I believe, she is indeed full Korean. But seriously, there was NO asian in her as far as looks were concerned. You would have NEVER guessed she was asian.

[Islandloverr]

Originally Posted by Magnus

So... I don't know how comparable this is but it just popped in my head. Freshmen in college, I met bunch of new friends. Mostly Koreans. But there was this one girl that was non Korean, Anna. My best guess was that she was Hispanic. One night, we were all at a friend's room. I started saying something in Korean b/c I couldn't find the correct translation. Then Anna replied in Korean. She spoke Korean fluently. I was totally shocked and I asked when she learned. Apparently, she was full Korean. We all thought she was joking so she ended up getting her family picture from her room to show us. I ended up carefully asking if she was adopted. She just laughed and said no. And she understands our reaction b/c she gets it all the time.

Obviously, we weren't going to ask for DNA proof. LOL But unless her parents did adopt her and have been lying to her, as far as I believe, she is indeed full Korean. But seriously, there was NO asian in her as far as looks were concerned. You would have NEVER guessed she was asian.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Back when I was in high school I had this male friend whose facial features SCREAMED Native indian. Now He already told us he was Dominican, and I already knew that Dominicans are made up of 3 race's... (Spanish, Taino Indians, and african) so I already knew what was in his ancestry....But He looked like a FULL BLOODED Taino. I'm talking about the red copper-tone skin, high cheek bones, the facial structure....the thick jet black hair, the nose. EVERYTHING!

Now from what I understand back when the slaves were first brought over to D.R., A lot of Taino's died off from the foreign diseases, left to go live in south america, and some stayed and had children with the Spaniards or Africans. And there are little to no Full blooded tainos left in DR. I mean, I've never gotten to see what his parents looked like or find out who was the closet taino ancestor, but they clearly had strong genes.

Sometimes I used to stare at his face in awe because I've never seen Taino features in real life. Also my family is from the Caribbean, and we had Arawak indians, and just like in DR they either died, left, or mingled. My father's Grandmother was half Black, half Arawak and her name was Inta. So he was my blast from the past so to say. LOL.