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06-13-2013, 07:21 AM | #1 |
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| docking is tail docking still allowed? And if so is it recommended and why?? |
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06-13-2013, 08:33 AM | #2 |
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| I believe in Aus and UK it is banned "unless it is a working dog." Not sure about South Africa. It's legal in the US, but there is a push from some to get it banned. My baby is docked. I love his little stump especially when he's excited and it wags furiously. I keep waiting for his butt to lift off the ground. lol There are a lot on here with babies are not docked and those tails are the cutest things. It would be recommended for AKC confirmation standards, but it is by no means any sort of health recommendation. Originally these little guys/gals were bread to go into tight spaces and hunt mice and rats. Docking the tails gave them protection from being bitten on their tail. Can't bite what's not there. I believe the long coats were favored as a form of armor. That's how the modern yorkie came into being.
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06-13-2013, 08:40 AM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Docking is still allowed here in the US, and we've had some veryyyy passionate discussions about it in the past (you might want to search for those threads, if interested, they're very informative and interesting). I hope that someday docking is banned and that yorkies have their full, beautiful, unamputated tails in all their glory. My Pfeiffer (a tri color) has her full tail and it's not only just stunning, but it is SO expressive. I truly hope someday the YTCA will lead the charge in this matter here in the US.
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06-13-2013, 09:22 AM | #4 |
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| It is still allowed in the US--my Toby came to me with his tail docked. Anne, my little guy's backside *does* lift off the ground! Ha, ha! He wiggles his rear when he gets excited when he eats and his back legs lift off the ground. It is hilarious. It happened more when he was smaller but it still happens on occasion.
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06-13-2013, 10:20 AM | #5 | |
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Tail Docking Veterinarians who perform tail docking, unless for justifiable medical reasons, will be liable for prosecution under the Animal Protection Act no 71 of 1962. Veterinarians found guilty under this act, will automatically be investigated for unprofessional conduct by the SAVC under the Veterinary and Para-Veterinary Professions Act, 1982. The National Council of SPCAs (NSPCA), as the body primarily responsible with applying the tenets of the Animal Protection Act has in the past not enforced the relevant clause in the Act due to the fact that the SAVC has in the past “condoned” the performing of the procedure. This created a legal loophole that would have made successful prosecution of any person based on the Animal Protection Act unlikely to succeed. This has now changed with the SAVC decision. Although the SAVC decision only directly affects veterinarians, lay people who perform the procedure will now also be liable under the Animal Protection Act. | |
06-13-2013, 10:37 AM | #6 |
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| It's not allowed here in the uk, it came into law back in 2007.
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06-13-2013, 10:43 AM | #7 |
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| Lucy's tail is intact because my US breeder participates in European shows. I love the little wagger! It thumps against the bathroom door when I'm in there. AKC is sloooowwwww to change. There are threads here that are passionate about the issue one way or the other. Tracey |
06-13-2013, 10:45 AM | #8 | |
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06-13-2013, 10:54 AM | #9 |
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| I believe that cutting the tails from yorkies dates back to the days when the dogs actually "worked" during the Industrial Revolution. Yorkies worked in factories to catch vermin & rodents. Their tails would become entangled in machinery - which would stop progress and injure the dog. So, to make their job easier and more efficient, their tails were cut off. The AKC's purpose is to put forth the best breeding stock. The original yorkie stock worked without their tails. So, that's what's shown. The club hasn't caught up with the times. Our yorkies may still catch something in the yard but they're certainly not bred to do that any more. The tradition carries on because it's just that, a tradition. Some will assert health issues about keeping the tail, ie, higher incidence of tail breakage. I don't dispute that argument here, I just don't agree with it. But that's only my opinion. Tracey |
06-13-2013, 10:55 AM | #10 | |
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The reasons for the decision are as follows: Tail docking, even if performed with local anaesthesia, causes pain and stress to young puppies. Recent research in pain management indicates clearly that puppies, even at a few days of age, have a fully developed nervous system and a well-developed sense of pain. Sometimes, tail docking results in serious complications such as bleeding, infection and even the death of the puppy. There can also be complications later in life such as neuroma formation. Tail docking does not provide any benefit to puppies. Traditionally, some breeders considered a docked tail necessary to fulfil the working functions of the dog. Today many working breeds are kept as house pets and only a small percentage are used for field work, which is a recreational activity for people and not an essential function. If dogs of breeds that are customarily docked are left with intact tails, they are not more likely to get tail injuries than dogs of other breeds. Dogs need their tails for balance and body language. If a procedure that causes pain has no immediate or future benefit for the animal and may lead to complications, it is unnecessary and should not be performed. | |
06-13-2013, 10:56 AM | #11 | |
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Good info. Thanks for hunting that down for the OP Side note/rant: I wish it would become illegal in the US. Since dogs (for the most part) are bred as pets, it's so unnecessary. And, as Peppermint once said: "It's like a speech impediment" (RE: Dexter's Ruff Life)
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06-13-2013, 12:09 PM | #12 |
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| My Prima has her tail & dew claws. I asked my breeder to keep her tail & she was more than happy to. Aside from loving the look of a Yorkie with a tail, I didn't really see a reason as to why it should be docked. I always assumed it would be painful & stressful for a puppy. But now that I know it really is, I'm even more glad that Prima has her tail.
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06-13-2013, 12:12 PM | #13 |
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| I for one will do a public happy dance the day they stop aesthetic mutilations. I can appreciate that there was a time that it was a safety concern and they were working dogs. But to continue doing it now that they are bred as companions for no other reason than "that's the way it's always been done" doesn't seem right. /soapbox /.02 /rant
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06-13-2013, 12:19 PM | #14 | |
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06-13-2013, 04:25 PM | #15 | |
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https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/FA...l-docking.aspx I can find scholarly articles, but of course I'm on my computer from home and they are behind a pay firewall. Here's a couple: Tail docking in dogs: a review of the issues - BENNETT - 2008 - Australian Veterinary Journal - Wiley Online Library http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...575.x/abstract If you're interested, I can copy and paste parts of the articles when I'm on a university computer tomorrow. Last edited by pstinard; 06-13-2013 at 04:28 PM. | |
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