Scared about how big my puppy will be

[amyazer]

Its not true that these little dogs are prone to health issues puppy mill dogs are prone to health issues because they have genetic issues whether big or small...I agree u have to have be careful with tiny pups but if they come from a good line they have just as good chance as any other dog out there...safri is an extreme example that came from a bad breeder that's not the case if the teacup came from good hands

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Every single one of you that is against the teacup term thats valid for your preferences...However, my stand is where you can have a tiny puppy that stays tiny because its my preference or anyone who prefers it. I do not believe that you should breed a teacup dog that is barely 3 pounds. Teacups can com from ,for example, 5 pound dogs its genetically possible and some breeders although not show dog breeders are just as if not better... good at what they do and they are biologically and genetically informed on how to breed down the best quality dogs into what they want ie...temperament, healthy, size, etc...im not talking about any backyard breeder or puppy mill...Please read and understand what im saying dont close your minds to just oh a teacup it must be a puppymill...No! thats not what im saying...my pup is tiny (not the smallest) and came out of 5 and 6 pound parents. All im saying and maybe some others is i reserve the right to call my pup watever i want...and stop arguing i already did my research and i know what im doing...im just defending bentleymommie (originally)

I felt the need to respond to this because I too was very stubborn and stuck in my ways over the term "teacup". It is very easy to take member's passion as rudeness but they truly are just very very VERY passionate about the breed. Teacup is such a degrading word to our breed because of it's background. Teacup was not a word made up by the AKC but a term made up by horrible back yard breeders who purposely bred ill bred puppies just for the money. The members here understand that some tinies DO happen from even the best of the best bloodlines but one thing that I've learned here is that teacup will never be an accepted term. I mean it's kind of like going to work and cussing your boss out...somethings are just inappropriate in certain places. Please, I encourage you to just listen to the members for a bit or even search the forum. There are plenty of threads on the term and believe me when I say after research, I don't think you'd want your baby referred to as a teacup.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

I felt the need to respond to this because I too was very stubborn and stuck in my ways over the term "teacup". It is very easy to take member's passion as rudeness but they truly are just very very VERY passionate about the breed. Teacup is such a degrading word to our breed because of it's background. Teacup was not a word made up by the AKC but a term made up by horrible back yard breeders who purposely bred ill bred puppies just for the money. The members here understand that some tinies DO happen from even the best of the best bloodlines but one thing that I've learned here is that teacup will never be an accepted term. I mean it's kind of like going to work and cussing your boss out...somethings are just inappropriate in certain places. Please, I encourage you to just listen to the members for a bit or even search the forum. There are plenty of threads on the term and believe me when I say after research, I don't think you'd want your baby referred to as a teacup.

This was a great post Courtney I'm proud

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

This was a great post Courtney I'm proud

Thank you I just want you all to know I DO understand your concerns and I DO support you all. Some people just respond better to different approaches while others may not ever get it but at least we can say we tried many different approaches!

[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

I felt the need to respond to this because I too was very stubborn and stuck in my ways over the term "teacup". It is very easy to take member's passion as rudeness but they truly are just very very VERY passionate about the breed. Teacup is such a degrading word to our breed because of it's background. Teacup was not a word made up by the AKC but a term made up by horrible back yard breeders who purposely bred ill bred puppies just for the money. The members here understand that some tinies DO happen from even the best of the best bloodlines but one thing that I've learned here is that teacup will never be an accepted term. I mean it's kind of like going to work and cussing your boss out...somethings are just inappropriate in certain places. Please, I encourage you to just listen to the members for a bit or even search the forum. There are plenty of threads on the term and believe me when I say after research, I don't think you'd want your baby referred to as a teacup.

Wonderful post Courtney....you do us proud!

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by msyorktown

Wonderful post Courtney....you do us proud!

Glad to make you all proud

[sulamk]

I prefer the terms tiny or small to teacup and large or oversize to teapot!

[gracielove]

A purebred dog is a dog that has certain genetic distinctions due to a careful breeding plan. Purebreds do not maintain their distinctive characteristics unless the careful selective breeding continues in the line. That is why you see so many purebreds that are quite different than the breed standard when they are produced through indiscriminate breeding. Ears flop, bites change, personality characteristics become troublesome, and health issues abound due to indiscriminate breeding. In order to maintain the quality of any purebred certain scientific breeding standards have to be met. It is truly a science. It does not happen by chance.

While many larger Yorkies are seemingly healthy they can be just as subject to problems as the tiny ones if they have mishmash breeding behind them. Many of the so called teacups come from litters that also produced over sized pups. The genetic pool is so large in this type of breeding that it is like a giant roulette wheel of possibilites. A breeder with extensive knowledge of the genetics of their breed and who does extensive testing of their breeding stock is helping to eliminate the bad possibilities. That is one of the many reasons why those who have taken the time to study the subject try to warn people not to buy from the hobby, BYB, and puppy mill breeders.

A dog owner can call their dog a "microscopic" Yorkie if that makes them happy but the disdain for the tiny terms used to enrich bad breeders is about the exploitation of the dogs and not merely about someones terminology preference.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Its not true that these little dogs are prone to health issues puppy mill dogs are prone to health issues because they have genetic issues whether big or small...I agree u have to have be careful with tiny pups but if they come from a good line they have just as good chance as any other dog out there...safri is an extreme example that came from a bad breeder that's not the case if the teacup came from good hands

We're willing to learn. If you have proof in fact of any stage of early cellular development, gene pairings, embryonic or fetal formation in tiny/teacup dogs NOT are adversely affected in a way that can increase disease-related pathology due to the tiny size of the lines involved in a particular breeding, please link us to the source documents supporting that position. And please, not just one or two by one noted geneticist but a preponderance of source documents by noted geneticists stating teacup or ultra small dogs have no more non-injury medical problems than standard-sized dogs of that breed.

In the meantime, we do know from Googling that there are ad nauseum pages after pages of statements that teacup, ultra small, pocket or tiny dogs being rife with medical problems.

[Harrysmum]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

I felt the need to respond to this because I too was very stubborn and stuck in my ways over the term "teacup". It is very easy to take member's passion as rudeness but they truly are just very very VERY passionate about the breed. Teacup is such a degrading word to our breed because of it's background. Teacup was not a word made up by the AKC but a term made up by horrible back yard breeders who purposely bred ill bred puppies just for the money. The members here understand that some tinies DO happen from even the best of the best bloodlines but one thing that I've learned here is that teacup will never be an accepted term. I mean it's kind of like going to work and cussing your boss out...somethings are just inappropriate in certain places. Please, I encourage you to just listen to the members for a bit or even search the forum. There are plenty of threads on the term and believe me when I say after research, I don't think you'd want your baby referred to as a teacup.

Well done you! A great post, brilliantly said.... Sally + Teapot Boy x

Originally Posted by msyorktown

Wow, I left this thread on Friday, at 6 pages...in one day we are at page 10!!
I am gonna have to stop going to bed at night, just so I can keep up and not miss anything!

No....what you've got to do is stop going out lunching and enjoying yourself, when we're all here hard at work on YT......!!! Sally + Harry x

[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by Harrysmum

Well done you! A great post, brilliantly said.... Sally + Teapot Boy x




No....what you've got to do is stop going out lunching and enjoying yourself, when we're all here hard at work on YT......!!! Sally + Harry x

OK you're right Sally, I have been enjoying the summer entirely too much...I have to take my job here far more seriously!!

[Harrysmum]

Originally Posted by msyorktown

OK you're right Sally, I have been enjoying the summer entirely too much...I have to take my job here far more seriously!!

Too right. Glad you got the message Now, we must press on with our work.... Sally + Huge Boy xx

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by sulamk

I prefer the terms tiny or small to teacup and large or oversize to teapot!

Oversize can hurt feelings though trust me I'm oversize......

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Its not true that these little dogs are prone to health issues puppy mill dogs are prone to health issues because they have genetic issues whether big or small...I agree u have to have be careful with tiny pups but if they come from a good line they have just as good chance as any other dog out there...safri is an extreme example that came from a bad breeder that's not the case if the teacup came from good hands

Still waiting on proof that there is a good breeder who uses the word teacup........

[amyazer]

i cant show you because i dont believe in buying a pure bred dog...i strongly believe in mixed pups