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joeyyy2010 · 03-12-2013, 04:56 PM

I feel like all the unwanted pregnancies give intact dogs a bad name. I mean, of course things happen...but if I am doing EVERYTHING right in my home, and taking the precautionary steps while out of my home (harness/leash, carrying, keeping away from females) why should I be punished if I dont want an unnecessary procedure done.
I've set up an appointment for Thursday, but I cant help but feel like I am going to regret it forever.

Ellie May · 03-12-2013, 04:58 PM

It is sad. There are benefits to neutering but also risks. It is very difficult to be so careful (and there are no guarantees). But...don't feel forced into this. It is your choice.

MandiesMom · 03-12-2013, 04:59 PM

I promise you won't regret it. As I said before, you really are doing Joey a service by taking away his drive that he is not allowed to satisfy. Nothing else will change. I neutered Shelby-Dale when he was 2 1/2 years old and I was so worried something about him would change. NOTHING changed. He is still the same dog he was...no personality changes at all.

If you go into it feeling bad and making a big deal about it, Joey will sense that. He might react to that and that can change him. Make sure you act like it's just all in a day's routine for him. He'll be fine if you do that

With that said, I agree with Crystal..don't feel you have to do it because you are being forced to do so.

joeyyy2010 · 03-12-2013, 05:00 PM

I do feel forced...everyone that I have this convo with tells me I "have" to get it done..

joeyyy2010 · 03-12-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MandiesMom

I promise you won't regret it. As I said before, you really are doing Joey a service by taking away his drive that he is not allowed to satisfy. Nothing else will change. I neutered Shelby-Dale when he was 2 1/2 years old and I was so worried something about him would change. NOTHING changed. He is still the same dog he was...no personality changes at all.

If you go into it feeling bad and making a big deal about it, Joey will sense that. He might react to that and that can change him. Make sure you act like it's just all in a day's routine for him. He'll be fine if you do that

With that said, I agree with Crystal..don't feel you have to do it because you are being forced to do so.

Thank you. You have been so kind and the way you explain things doesnt make me feel like I am bullied. Actually, there isnt really people here that make me feel like that....just all the real life people. I have Carley fixed so I dont know why this is such a big deal to me.

MandiesMom · 03-12-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyyy2010

I do feel forced...everyone that I have this convo with tells me I "have" to get it done..

If you are truly feeling this way, Rebecca. Then, I would suggest you hold off. If you are having such strong reservations, it won't be good for either of you.

GeorgiesMomma · 03-12-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

It is sad. There are benefits to neutering but also risks. It is very difficult to be so careful (and there are no guarantees). But...don't feel forced into this. It is your choice.

I agree with Crystal please do not feel forced. We waited until Georgie was 3 1/2 to get him neutered. I didn't let anyone pressure me including my Vet. I told her we would do it when WE were ready and that's what we did. I was a nervous wreck while he was there but everything went great including his recovery

GeorgiesMomma · 03-12-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyyy2010

Thank you. You have been so kind and the way you explain things doesnt make me feel like I am bullied. Actually, there isnt really people here that make me feel like that....just all the real life people. I have Carley fixed so I dont know why this is such a big deal to me.

Hey we are real life people LOL just teasing

Seriously though don't worry about what other people say do it when you are ready. Again, we waited and Georgie did just fine.

yorkietalkjilly · 03-12-2013, 05:19 PM

I had Tibbe neutered as an only dog for three reasons: #1) to keep him from constantly feeling frustrated and needing to mate #2) to keep him from wanting to urine mark in the house and #3) to keep him from accidentally impregnating a little female should something ever happen that he was lost or I died, was disabled and he moved on to another home or any of the things that can happen that can perpetuate the over-breeding of dogs in this country(Tibbe has conformation faults and should not pass those along). I felt that as a dog-lover, it would be best for my baby, the cleanliness of my home and good for all dogs in the long run to have one less intact male.

Things could go wrong in your dog's surgery but you know from the statistics that this surgery is performed successfully every hour of every day in this world with very few bad outcomes. The good so outweighs the bad that most of us leave our babies off for the surgery with apprehension, dread and worry but still the abiding faith that it will more than likely turn out well and in the long run, the dog will be far better off.

joeyyy2010 · 03-12-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiesMomma

Hey we are real life people LOL just teasing

Seriously though don't worry about what other people say do it when you are ready. Again, we waited and Georgie did just fine.

LOL Yes, I know you are real life

Maximo · 03-12-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyyy2010

I do feel forced...everyone that I have this convo with tells me I "have" to get it done..

You should not feel forced to do it. I have had the opposite experience -- people telling me I was crazy for neutering my boys. A lot of people breed their pets where I live. I was obligated to neuter under our breeder's contract, and I wanted to do it. I do advocate neutering, but I wouldn't force it on anyone.

Ellie May · 03-12-2013, 05:52 PM

This is a good read:
Animal Reproduction. American College of Theriogenologists

You have time to make a decision.
there is no need to rush.

KazzyK810 · 03-12-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

You should not feel forced to do it. I have had the opposite experience -- people telling me I was crazy for neutering my boys. A lot of people breed their pets where I live. I was obligated to neuter under our breeder's contract, and I wanted to do it. I do advocate neutering, but I wouldn't force it on anyone.

Great point! Good breeders have a contract that requires you to alter your pets....so the people not altering their dogs are leaving potential breeders walking around that shouldn't be breeding.

GeorgiesMomma · 03-12-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyyy2010

LOL Yes, I know you are real life

LOL just making sure you know

LoALAnna · 03-12-2013, 06:45 PM

I was just reading the other night about a new form of neutering that does not require surgery. It is fairly new here in the states, but apparently it has been around a little while in Japan and other places overseas. It is called "Zeutering" and is done with zinc injections,which render the dog sterile, as zinc kills off sperm. I don't know how to link to the article, but I'm sure you can Google it. Maybe you can see if this is available to you.

03-12-2013, 05:00 PM	#4
joeyyy2010 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: tampa Posts: 705	I do feel forced...everyone that I have this convo with tells me I "have" to get it done.. __________________ Rebecca Joey Carley

03-12-2013, 05:19 PM	#9
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	I had Tibbe neutered as an only dog for three reasons: #1) to keep him from constantly feeling frustrated and needing to mate #2) to keep him from wanting to urine mark in the house and #3) to keep him from accidentally impregnating a little female should something ever happen that he was lost or I died, was disabled and he moved on to another home or any of the things that can happen that can perpetuate the over-breeding of dogs in this country(Tibbe has conformation faults and should not pass those along). I felt that as a dog-lover, it would be best for my baby, the cleanliness of my home and good for all dogs in the long run to have one less intact male. Things could go wrong in your dog's surgery but you know from the statistics that this surgery is performed successfully every hour of every day in this world with very few bad outcomes. The good so outweighs the bad that most of us leave our babies off for the surgery with apprehension, dread and worry but still the abiding faith that it will more than likely turn out well and in the long run, the dog will be far better off. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

03-12-2013, 05:52 PM	#12
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	This is a good read: Animal Reproduction. American College of Theriogenologists You have time to make a decision. there is no need to rush. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

03-12-2013, 04:56 PM	#1
joeyyy2010 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: tampa Posts: 705	a little rant I feel like all the unwanted pregnancies give intact dogs a bad name. I mean, of course things happen...but if I am doing EVERYTHING right in my home, and taking the precautionary steps while out of my home (harness/leash, carrying, keeping away from females) why should I be punished if I dont want an unnecessary procedure done. I've set up an appointment for Thursday, but I cant help but feel like I am going to regret it forever. __________________ Rebecca Joey Carley

03-12-2013, 04:58 PM	#2
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	It is sad. There are benefits to neutering but also risks. It is very difficult to be so careful (and there are no guarantees). But...don't feel forced into this. It is your choice. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

03-12-2013, 04:59 PM	#3
MandiesMom and Shelby's too Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 7,842	I promise you won't regret it. As I said before, you really are doing Joey a service by taking away his drive that he is not allowed to satisfy. Nothing else will change. I neutered Shelby-Dale when he was 2 1/2 years old and I was so worried something about him would change. NOTHING changed. He is still the same dog he was...no personality changes at all. If you go into it feeling bad and making a big deal about it, Joey will sense that. He might react to that and that can change him. Make sure you act like it's just all in a day's routine for him. He'll be fine if you do that With that said, I agree with Crystal..don't feel you have to do it because you are being forced to do so. __________________ Terri, proud mom to Mandie & Shelby-Dale

03-12-2013, 06:45 PM	#15
LoALAnna YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Elberta, AL USA Posts: 919	I was just reading the other night about a new form of neutering that does not require surgery. It is fairly new here in the states, but apparently it has been around a little while in Japan and other places overseas. It is called "Zeutering" and is done with zinc injections,which render the dog sterile, as zinc kills off sperm. I don't know how to link to the article, but I'm sure you can Google it. Maybe you can see if this is available to you.