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gymbo68 · 12-17-2005, 06:28 PM

Different perspective here...
Now first I will admit that I have not read all of the posts only scanned them....but is it possible that your husband is jealous? If most of your attention is going to the child first( where it belongs) then the dogs...and we all know how much attention a pup demands, maybe he is feeling a bit left out....? Just a thought!
Good luck in your dilema....

suz · 12-17-2005, 09:09 PM

Cheryl, Cherly, Cheryl.....

When I met you and your husband, it was very obvious that you were the dog person, and I mean that in a nice way!! When Bailey peed on my foot, John left the area. I think it embarrassed him. Didn't bother me, but I think it made him feel uncomfortable. I thought John was very nice person and I'm sure he really cares for both of the dogs. My husband didn't want an "ankle biter" either. He was used to big burley dogs. But let someone or something bother these guys now, and the cr*& flies. Even the grandkids! If the dogs growl at one of the human kids, then it must have been because they were teasing the dogs. And the most familiar thing you hear when the kids are here is "I TOLD YOU NOT TO RUN IN THE HOUSE!!!" Having puppies sure taught the kids to keep their stuff put away. IF IT'S ON THE FLOOR, IT'S FREE GAME.

I'm not saying what Brandy did was acceptable, just understandable. Cosmo plays with all the furkids here like crazy, and I have to admit, sometimes they treat her like she's a squeak toy, but she loves it. She just gets up, shakes off the dust and goes right back for more. She loves my mom's big dog (Queensland Heeler). I'd send you pics, but I lost your email address and my pic posting memory is lost again. I'll figure it out one of these days.

Hang in there. She's a cutie and if you DO have to give her up, please let me know!! I know a lot of people that'd want her.

Suz

troubletb · 12-17-2005, 09:35 PM

Well said Suz!!
Cheryl, I would buy a cage, And if she crys, don't worry about it, She will get use to it, Mine did. I will admit that I first just kept Petey in it( becasue he was the one I couldn't and still can't train) But Lillly has chewed up everything and destroyed many things in my house (so did my precious Bell, when shew was a puupy, they do grow out of it) So get a cage, I bought mine in a supermarket its pretty big (guessing, it is around 2 feet high 2 feet long and close to 2 feet wide,) I keep both of them in it whenever I'm not around. Now Lilly and even Petey chew things even when I am around (my fault because I don't watch them close enough) But the cage is working out really well. One word of of caution, If you do get the cage, keep it away from the walls, I just moved my cage and noticed that one of my darlings has clawed a nice size hole in the wall of my new house!!

My husband who use to act like yours, just looked at me when I told him...and didn't say one word!

I guess he has learned that there are more important things to get upset over.

cheryl000 · 12-17-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by suz

Cheryl, Cherly, Cheryl.....

When I met you and your husband, it was very obvious that you were the dog person, and I mean that in a nice way!! When Bailey peed on my foot, John left the area. I think it embarrassed him. Didn't bother me, but I think it made him feel uncomfortable. I thought John was very nice person and I'm sure he really cares for both of the dogs. My husband didn't want an "ankle biter" either. He was used to big burley dogs. But let someone or something bother these guys now, and the cr*& flies. Even the grandkids! If the dogs growl at one of the human kids, then it must have been because they were teasing the dogs. And the most familiar thing you hear when the kids are here is "I TOLD YOU NOT TO RUN IN THE HOUSE!!!" Having puppies sure taught the kids to keep their stuff put away. IF IT'S ON THE FLOOR, IT'S FREE GAME.

I'm not saying what Brandy did was acceptable, just understandable. Cosmo plays with all the furkids here like crazy, and I have to admit, sometimes they treat her like she's a squeak toy, but she loves it. She just gets up, shakes off the dust and goes right back for more. She loves my mom's big dog (Queensland Heeler). I'd send you pics, but I lost your email address and my pic posting memory is lost again. I'll figure it out one of these days.

Hang in there. She's a cutie and if you DO have to give her up, please let me know!! I know a lot of people that'd want her.

Suz

Yeah, John was upset about Bailey doing that. But he did hold Bailey on the trip up there. Brandy is the one that he will not pet. I rarely see him pet Bailey anymore. I think he doesn't want to pet them because he doesn't want to get attached to them. I don't know anyone who hasn't had a dog chew on something or do something "naughty." I just believe that he is more easily annoyed with them because he doesn't love them. He doesn't seem to want to love them anymore or pet them. I hope by talking to him I can figure out why.

cheryl000 · 12-17-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gymbo68

Different perspective here...
Now first I will admit that I have not read all of the posts only scanned them....but is it possible that your husband is jealous? If most of your attention is going to the child first( where it belongs) then the dogs...and we all know how much attention a pup demands, maybe he is feeling a bit left out....? Just a thought!
Good luck in your dilema....

I'm not sure on that. We both give Dominick lots of love and attention. We have alot of pets, but the dogs do take up the most attention out of all of them. I try to divide my time equally. But as soon as he gets home I see it as a chance to study and I usually hold Brandy in my lap while I read. We do family things but never anything with just the two of us anymore. I will ask him and hopefully he'll be truthful if he is feeling that way. I just don't know why after 3 years of marriage he won't be straight with me.
Thanks for the thought!

cheryl000 · 12-17-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by troubletb

Well said Suz!!
Cheryl, I would buy a cage, And if she crys, don't worry about it, She will get use to it, Mine did. I will admit that I first just kept Petey in it( becasue he was the one I couldn't and still can't train) But Lillly has chewed up everything and destroyed many things in my house (so did my precious Bell, when shew was a puupy, they do grow out of it) So get a cage, I bought mine in a supermarket its pretty big (guessing, it is around 2 feet high 2 feet long and close to 2 feet wide,) I keep both of them in it whenever I'm not around. Now Lilly and even Petey chew things even when I am around (my fault because I don't watch them close enough) But the cage is working out really well. One word of of caution, If you do get the cage, keep it away from the walls, I just moved my cage and noticed that one of my darlings has clawed a nice size hole in the wall of my new house!!

My husband who use to act like yours, just looked at me when I told him...and didn't say one word!

I guess he has learned that there are more important things to get upset over.

Well I have tried the blanket cover and it seems to be working. Since I put her in there I haven't heard a peep. I was putting Bailey in there with her before to keep her company, but now he is potty trained.
By the way, I had 2 friends over today, both of which said they didn't like "foo foo" dogs. Ray even said "Wow, I'll bet John doesn't like that one very much." But by the end of the night they were both holding Brandy. The guy said that he never held a dog before and didn't know how to hold them because he always owned big dogs. She fell asleep in Lauren's arms. They both said she was so cute and was the type of dog their moms would get. So if I can get 2 people to fall in love with her over a couple hours I just don't see why I can't get my husband to! It's so frustrating. My parents even love her and they said they would never would have an inside dog, but she is the exception.

momofreese · 12-17-2005, 11:52 PM

I am new to the site and cannot seem to get to sleep. I was reading a lot of the threads and this one struck a nerve. I do not want to offend the lady with the "destructive" puppy, so I hope I will not come off that way.. but

Why did you get another puppy if your husband was even the slightest bit against getting one? Did he just start disliking both of them because the puppy is behaving like a puppy?

I would assume that your son is your first child. If I am wrong forgive me. I am the mother of three daughters, now 13, 17 and 21 and let me tell you something, as great as they were as infants/toddlers/young adults.. they had accidents of all kinds. Just wait. I did not read your entire post but it seems as if you little boy is very young. My girls were angels in comparisn to what I see out in public, but if I tell you they have had their share of accidents. I do not mean to be snide, but what is going to happen when your son does something wrong, is your husband going to stop hugging him, talking to him or spending time with him?

Did you expect a puppy to be any different? Maybe your pug was less "destructive", I suppose you were luckier. My yorkie is so quiet, in fact probably too inactive for most. She ripped apart her wee wee pads, she nibbled on everyone's fingers, she had accidents, urine, vomiting, etc ( even now, I just wiped up vomit from the wood floors that my husband spent days stripping, staining and finishing. At 46 years old, the loss of close family and friends, my husband going through back surgery, a 20 year old getting numerous citations at college for being in bars (not drinking at the time, but I know she does many times), a benign brain tumor this past July, if you think that my three year old yorkie vomiting on the floors that my husband slaved over is going to cause me grief, you have to be kidding.

Again, I do not mean to be combative at all, but you have to take a breath and think about what you are typing here. My yorkie has been trained or maybe I am the trained one who is fortunate to be able to be with her constantly to make sure she goes to her proper place. She still on occasion has accidents. She is very bright yet the other day she made number 2 on my kitchen floor, right in the middle of the floor. It was my fault, I had changed the pad and had forgotten to replace it in her pantry. Now why couldn't she have barked to tell me? At times she would have, but no one can rely on dogs, children and especially HUSBANDS to do the right thing at all times.

Please for your sake, your sons and even your husbands, take a giant step back and realize that your expectations are far greater than what they should be. This is a dog. You are too young to let things of this nature get you in such a state. Sit your husband down and explain to him what his priorities need to be. It is unfortunate that the puppy ripped your sons turkey and now his other project. But just as you would watch your infant, cover electrical outlets, hide small objects, and on and on and on, you must do the same for a puppy. And by the way, I have seen HUGE crates that can hold two giant labs, let alone a yorkie and a pug. They would probably want to snuggle close anyway. My yorkie sleeps in one tiny corner of a crib and would probably feel better if she was in a shoebox.

I hope I haven't added more to your problem, but try to understand that there are far worse things than having a puppy who is just acting like a puppy. I miss those days when Reese was a puppy, and sometimes she reverts back to certain puppy behaviors and I have to just deal with it.

I wish you luck but also wish your puppy luck. I know I will take a lot from many dog lovers here for saying this, but here goes anyway. If you feel that the responsibility is getting to be too much for you, and you are concerned about your husbands reaction.. do everyone a favor, especially the puppy, and re home him or give him back to the breeder. It isn't fair to the puppy either.

Hope you have better luck in the morning with him. It might pay to hire a sitter or have a family member watch your son for a day or two. Spend every moment or close to it to train him properly. It is just like toilet training a child. How I shiver when I think of the days of endless hours, sitting on the bathroom floor with each of my daughters waiting for them to grasp the concept. Believe it or not, each of them are fully trained unless they happen to laugh a little too hard. Good luck to you and your family.

Randy and Reese

momofreese · 12-18-2005, 12:00 AM

I just realized I made references to your female puppy as being a male. I apologize for my error. I suppose I should really get to bed. Have a good night and best of luck again.

SnowWa · 12-18-2005, 04:37 AM

Cheryl -- A marriage is about "give and take." But, some things have to take priority over others. Each of us (husbands and wives) usually do give up a lot of things for one another. But, giving up something that you love (like a pet) is a little harder than many other things might be. I'm not sure that it is really fair for anyone to ask another to give up something they love. Having a puppy is a very healthy, normal thing. It's not a bad thing. And, it isn't usually something that causes a lot of problems in a family.

Again, I think you need to sit down with your husband and seriously tell him how much the puppy means to you ---and work out a plan together so that you might be able to keep the puppy and have peace in the family at the same time.

Sounds like you love your husband a lot. That's wonderful. But, I want you to have your puppy too. A lot of the problems you are having with the little pup now are only because he is so young. He will outgrow most of the behavior that irritates your husband. But you and your husband have to work together to give the poor little guy a chance.

Sounds like your husband isn't very fast at learning to love anything. All the more reason you need more time with your puppy.

I wish you the best. If the time ever comes that you need to get rid of the little puppy - be sure and put him in your husband's arms and with tears in your eyes, you say, "Here - you go find him a good home." I'm not sure that he could do that.

Again - good luck - I sure hope things work out.

Carol Jean

gymbo68 · 12-18-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000

We do family things but never anything with just the two of us anymore.

Find some time for the 2 of you...hire a babysitter and go away for a nice dinner and a movie....we for about 2 years when it was hard to get away had a standing babysitter night and looked forward to it....you both need time for just you 2!....try it i think you will be surprised....

cheryl000 · 12-18-2005, 07:51 AM

hmmmm

cheryl000 · 12-18-2005, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by momofreese

I am new to the site and cannot seem to get to sleep. I was reading a lot of the threads and this one struck a nerve. I do not want to offend the lady with the "destructive" puppy, so I hope I will not come off that way.. but

Why did you get another puppy if your husband was even the slightest bit against getting one? Did he just start disliking both of them because the puppy is behaving like a puppy?

I would assume that your son is your first child. If I am wrong forgive me. I am the mother of three daughters, now 13, 17 and 21 and let me tell you something, as great as they were as infants/toddlers/young adults.. they had accidents of all kinds. Just wait. I did not read your entire post but it seems as if you little boy is very young. My girls were angels in comparisn to what I see out in public, but if I tell you they have had their share of accidents. I do not mean to be snide, but what is going to happen when your son does something wrong, is your husband going to stop hugging him, talking to him or spending time with him?

Did you expect a puppy to be any different? Maybe your pug was less "destructive", I suppose you were luckier. My yorkie is so quiet, in fact probably too inactive for most. She ripped apart her wee wee pads, she nibbled on everyone's fingers, she had accidents, urine, vomiting, etc ( even now, I just wiped up vomit from the wood floors that my husband spent days stripping, staining and finishing. At 46 years old, the loss of close family and friends, my husband going through back surgery, a 20 year old getting numerous citations at college for being in bars (not drinking at the time, but I know she does many times), a benign brain tumor this past July, if you think that my three year old yorkie vomiting on the floors that my husband slaved over is going to cause me grief, you have to be kidding.

Again, I do not mean to be combative at all, but you have to take a breath and think about what you are typing here. My yorkie has been trained or maybe I am the trained one who is fortunate to be able to be with her constantly to make sure she goes to her proper place. She still on occasion has accidents. She is very bright yet the other day she made number 2 on my kitchen floor, right in the middle of the floor. It was my fault, I had changed the pad and had forgotten to replace it in her pantry. Now why couldn't she have barked to tell me? At times she would have, but no one can rely on dogs, children and especially HUSBANDS to do the right thing at all times.

Please for your sake, your sons and even your husbands, take a giant step back and realize that your expectations are far greater than what they should be. This is a dog. You are too young to let things of this nature get you in such a state. Sit your husband down and explain to him what his priorities need to be. It is unfortunate that the puppy ripped your sons turkey and now his other project. But just as you would watch your infant, cover electrical outlets, hide small objects, and on and on and on, you must do the same for a puppy. And by the way, I have seen HUGE crates that can hold two giant labs, let alone a yorkie and a pug. They would probably want to snuggle close anyway. My yorkie sleeps in one tiny corner of a crib and would probably feel better if she was in a shoebox.

I hope I haven't added more to your problem, but try to understand that there are far worse things than having a puppy who is just acting like a puppy. I miss those days when Reese was a puppy, and sometimes she reverts back to certain puppy behaviors and I have to just deal with it.

I wish you luck but also wish your puppy luck. I know I will take a lot from many dog lovers here for saying this, but here goes anyway. If you feel that the responsibility is getting to be too much for you, and you are concerned about your husbands reaction.. do everyone a favor, especially the puppy, and re home him or give him back to the breeder. It isn't fair to the puppy either.

Hope you have better luck in the morning with him. It might pay to hire a sitter or have a family member watch your son for a day or two. Spend every moment or close to it to train him properly. It is just like toilet training a child. How I shiver when I think of the days of endless hours, sitting on the bathroom floor with each of my daughters waiting for them to grasp the concept. Believe it or not, each of them are fully trained unless they happen to laugh a little too hard. Good luck to you and your family.

Randy and Reese

Since you admited to not reading everything it is quite obvious. I will try to answer you questions again, even though I have already answered them above. He was never against getting a puppy, he said, "Do whatever makes you happy." After I got Brandy he really stopped interacting with them. The next question I'm kind of offended by. John LOVES HIS SON more than I've ever seen a man love a child. He is wonderful with children and he is the whole world. Dominick is the only thing I have ever seen John love instantly. Everything else takes alot of time. But when John does love something or someone he is very passionate about it. He is not cold towards me or his son. My house is puppy proofed, the I bought a nice xpen, a baby gate, toys, and raw hide chews. Brandy is wonderful about going outside as soon as she is let out. She just needs to go frequently, so when she doesn't go it is my fault.
I'll admit Bailey is the better behaved out of the two of them. He doesn't bark or shread everything including wee wee pads and newspaper. Back then John was great with Bailey. He used to pet him all the time. Then I decided to get the dog I always wanted, Brandy. I have cleaned up Brandy's vomit before, out of my car... I didn't get mad at her, I just felt sorry for her. Again, I don't get mad at Brandy during potty training because she is so tiny, actually I was alot "harder" on Bailey about housetraining because he's bigger.
I know it's a dog. I did the proper things to keep him out of stuff. But things DO happen. That's why they're called acidents. I don't know one person that an accident didn't happen to. And sometimes you take all of the preventative actions and it still happens. I'm done beating myself up over it. I am the one I'm mad at for Dom's stuff getting ruined. John is the one mad at the dog. And incase you didn't read John doesn't interect with the dog. When you don't have feelings for something it is easier to get annoyed by it.
I love Brandy more than anything I am just tired of my husband wanting to get rid of her. Wow, now that I've totally read the whole thing you think this is a training issue and I'm the one who wants to get rid of her?? Wow, you totally missed the bus....... Please do me a favor. I know that you can only make judgements about what you read, and I understand that you're tired. But please read all of my posts in the thread. I'm having a hard time not finding it rude and disrespectful that you think of me as an unfit parent/dog owner, impatient, and mean. I believe that you wouldn't feel that way if you read all of the posts and not just the initial ones where I was upset about Dominick's project being destroyed (which can be fixed). I was upset about the project and what John's reaction would be. I am kind of hurt by the accusations in this post. Bottom line is this. Brandy is like the daughter I have never had and I'm afriad my husband will never feel the same way about her.
I have seen it before when people don't read all of the threads before posting. EVERYONE, Please be respectful and read all of the posts before you draw raw conclusions. Not to be rude to everyone, but some find it hurtful.
Reguardless, welcome to YT and I do understand that you are just trying to help after all.

cheryl000 · 12-18-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowWa

Cheryl -- A marriage is about "give and take." But, some things have to take priority over others. Each of us (husbands and wives) usually do give up a lot of things for one another. But, giving up something that you love (like a pet) is a little harder than many other things might be. I'm not sure that it is really fair for anyone to ask another to give up something they love. Having a puppy is a very healthy, normal thing. It's not a bad thing. And, it isn't usually something that causes a lot of problems in a family.

Again, I think you need to sit down with your husband and seriously tell him how much the puppy means to you ---and work out a plan together so that you might be able to keep the puppy and have peace in the family at the same time.

Sounds like you love your husband a lot. That's wonderful. But, I want you to have your puppy too. A lot of the problems you are having with the little pup now are only because he is so young. He will outgrow most of the behavior that irritates your husband. But you and your husband have to work together to give the poor little guy a chance.

Sounds like your husband isn't very fast at learning to love anything. All the more reason you need more time with your puppy.

I wish you the best. If the time ever comes that you need to get rid of the little puppy - be sure and put him in your husband's arms and with tears in your eyes, you say, "Here - you go find him a good home." I'm not sure that he could do that.

Again - good luck - I sure hope things work out.

Carol Jean

Thanks for understanding so much. John will just have to deal with it somehow. We will talk today when he gets home from the ship. I am not getting rid of Brandy. I just wish that I could get him to love her. John loves me very much, there is no doubt about that. He knows that we'll never forgive him if he does something drastic. He just tries to convince me to get rid of her. But that isn't going to happen. Thanks for the advice.

cheryl000 · 12-18-2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gymbo68

Find some time for the 2 of you...hire a babysitter and go away for a nice dinner and a movie....we for about 2 years when it was hard to get away had a standing babysitter night and looked forward to it....you both need time for just you 2!....try it i think you will be surprised....

Thanks for the advice That sounds good. We're in the military and had to move out to San Diego. Actually I got out a couple months ago. But we're still here because of him. All of our family is in the midwest. So everyone who has family around, cherish them for being there for you whenever you need them. But my sister is coming for Christmas, I will ask her if she can watch Dominick and the dogs so we can go get something to eat.
What is kind of funny is that she's bringing her 2 min-pins for the week she's here. She is a dog lover like me so she wouldn't have it any other way. John wasn't happy about it but he is going to deal with it so we can see the nephews. Hopefully he won't get too annoyed with them, but he will have to deal with it.

momofreese · 12-18-2005, 08:40 AM

I think you took a lot of what I had said out of context, also. I did skim through all of your posts. I did not mean to imply that YOU are a bad mommy, either to your children or dogs. I happen to think I made it pretty clear that your puppy is not doing anything out of the oridinary. Like I said, and I am not going to copy and paste all of it, is that a puppy will be a puppy. As bright as they are, they do not have the mentality to rationalize. The puppy doesn't understand, at least not on a human level as to what she is doing. Everything that all of our puppy/dogs do is not to be destructive or bad.. they are playing. I will not say that dogs aren't ever spiteful, although I think most professionals believe that they are not.

I just thought that your post was a little over the top.. meaning that your husband was making a huge issue out of what a puppy and sometimes adult dog, does. I am sorry if you took my text as being negative toward your abilities as a parent of a little boy or dogs. You are right, I used a horrible example regarding your husband and how he would react if your son does something wrong. I was way beyond being over the top. But based on your posts, how it takes your husband a long time to love, maybe forgive (another possible assumption) and how he reacts to puppy issues, I made the statement. And unfair it was.

Especially when I am new to YT and have found all to be very pleasant (for the most part), I should not have reacted so strongly to your post which was sincere and seeking advice. But it really did upset me that someone, your husband, would think that what your puppy is doing is so unusual and terrible.

I also had no right to go through a list of my own personal problems, which I deem worse than yours. I was again just trying to show you, that there are so many other more terrible things that we have to deal with. This is a minor situation that if handled properly, it will resolve itself. I again apologize over and over again, since everyone has their own set of problems/issues that are important to them. I guess being that I have a very strong personality ( I know you couldn't tell) and would never let my husband (nor would he) bully me when it came to my dog or for that matter anything.

My husband is not the most outwardly affectionate person toward Reese, but I see the way he speaks about her to others, and how she gets under his skin. I am going on and on and on as usual so I will cut this off. I read your post, and felt badly that I came on as strong as I did.. especially since I am new and had been welcomed into the group.

I really do believe that your puppy will grow out of this, probably have some setbacks as most do, which will make your husband fall as madly in love with both of your dogs, again. I think you missed my point in a few respects also. I was trying to say that we ALL make mistakes, as I have obviously done. But life goes on, hopefully. Once again my negatism was directed more toward your husband than at you. Which, without having ever met him, was completely wrong.

I have made many mistakes in my post, and certainly could have gone about it in a nicer way. It just made me sad, and even a little angry, that a puppy owner would not understand that this is to be expected. If one does not go through it, I consider them to be very luck.

Have a nice day, and I sincerely do think that many OTHERS have given you excellent advice. A evening or two with your husband alone would definitely help. I can certainly use the same, for different reasons, with mine.

I wish all of you the best of luck and a very happy and healthy holiday. I am glad that you are able to fix your sons project.

12-17-2005, 06:28 PM	#46
gymbo68 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,022	Different perspective here... Now first I will admit that I have not read all of the posts only scanned them....but is it possible that your husband is jealous? If most of your attention is going to the child first( where it belongs) then the dogs...and we all know how much attention a pup demands, maybe he is feeling a bit left out....? Just a thought! Good luck in your dilema.... __________________ Max and Milos Dad!

12-17-2005, 09:09 PM	#47
suz Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 741	Cheryl, Cherly, Cheryl..... When I met you and your husband, it was very obvious that you were the dog person, and I mean that in a nice way!! When Bailey peed on my foot, John left the area. I think it embarrassed him. Didn't bother me, but I think it made him feel uncomfortable. I thought John was very nice person and I'm sure he really cares for both of the dogs. My husband didn't want an "ankle biter" either. He was used to big burley dogs. But let someone or something bother these guys now, and the cr& flies. Even the grandkids! If the dogs growl at one of the human kids, then it must have been because they were teasing the dogs. And the most familiar thing you hear when the kids are here is "I TOLD YOU NOT TO RUN IN THE HOUSE!!!"* Having puppies sure taught the kids to keep their stuff put away. IF IT'S ON THE FLOOR, IT'S FREE GAME. I'm not saying what Brandy did was acceptable, just understandable. Cosmo plays with all the furkids here like crazy, and I have to admit, sometimes they treat her like she's a squeak toy, but she loves it. She just gets up, shakes off the dust and goes right back for more. She loves my mom's big dog (Queensland Heeler). I'd send you pics, but I lost your email address and my pic posting memory is lost again. I'll figure it out one of these days. Hang in there. She's a cutie and if you DO have to give her up, please let me know!! I know a lot of people that'd want her. Suz __________________ Suz The more people I meet... The more I love my dogs!!!

12-17-2005, 09:35 PM	#48
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,339	Get a cage! Well said Suz!! Cheryl, I would buy a cage, And if she crys, don't worry about it, She will get use to it, Mine did. I will admit that I first just kept Petey in it( becasue he was the one I couldn't and still can't train) But Lillly has chewed up everything and destroyed many things in my house (so did my precious Bell, when shew was a puupy, they do grow out of it) So get a cage, I bought mine in a supermarket its pretty big (guessing, it is around 2 feet high 2 feet long and close to 2 feet wide,) I keep both of them in it whenever I'm not around. Now Lilly and even Petey chew things even when I am around (my fault because I don't watch them close enough) But the cage is working out really well. One word of of caution, If you do get the cage, keep it away from the walls, I just moved my cage and noticed that one of my darlings has clawed a nice size hole in the wall of my new house!! My husband who use to act like yours, just looked at me when I told him...and didn't say one word! I guess he has learned that there are more important things to get upset over. __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom Rest in Peace <3

12-17-2005, 11:52 PM	#52
momofreese Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hewlett, New York Posts: 129	destructive yorkie I am new to the site and cannot seem to get to sleep. I was reading a lot of the threads and this one struck a nerve. I do not want to offend the lady with the "destructive" puppy, so I hope I will not come off that way.. but Why did you get another puppy if your husband was even the slightest bit against getting one? Did he just start disliking both of them because the puppy is behaving like a puppy? I would assume that your son is your first child. If I am wrong forgive me. I am the mother of three daughters, now 13, 17 and 21 and let me tell you something, as great as they were as infants/toddlers/young adults.. they had accidents of all kinds. Just wait. I did not read your entire post but it seems as if you little boy is very young. My girls were angels in comparisn to what I see out in public, but if I tell you they have had their share of accidents. I do not mean to be snide, but what is going to happen when your son does something wrong, is your husband going to stop hugging him, talking to him or spending time with him? Did you expect a puppy to be any different? Maybe your pug was less "destructive", I suppose you were luckier. My yorkie is so quiet, in fact probably too inactive for most. She ripped apart her wee wee pads, she nibbled on everyone's fingers, she had accidents, urine, vomiting, etc ( even now, I just wiped up vomit from the wood floors that my husband spent days stripping, staining and finishing. At 46 years old, the loss of close family and friends, my husband going through back surgery, a 20 year old getting numerous citations at college for being in bars (not drinking at the time, but I know she does many times), a benign brain tumor this past July, if you think that my three year old yorkie vomiting on the floors that my husband slaved over is going to cause me grief, you have to be kidding. Again, I do not mean to be combative at all, but you have to take a breath and think about what you are typing here. My yorkie has been trained or maybe I am the trained one who is fortunate to be able to be with her constantly to make sure she goes to her proper place. She still on occasion has accidents. She is very bright yet the other day she made number 2 on my kitchen floor, right in the middle of the floor. It was my fault, I had changed the pad and had forgotten to replace it in her pantry. Now why couldn't she have barked to tell me? At times she would have, but no one can rely on dogs, children and especially HUSBANDS to do the right thing at all times. Please for your sake, your sons and even your husbands, take a giant step back and realize that your expectations are far greater than what they should be. This is a dog. You are too young to let things of this nature get you in such a state. Sit your husband down and explain to him what his priorities need to be. It is unfortunate that the puppy ripped your sons turkey and now his other project. But just as you would watch your infant, cover electrical outlets, hide small objects, and on and on and on, you must do the same for a puppy. And by the way, I have seen HUGE crates that can hold two giant labs, let alone a yorkie and a pug. They would probably want to snuggle close anyway. My yorkie sleeps in one tiny corner of a crib and would probably feel better if she was in a shoebox. I hope I haven't added more to your problem, but try to understand that there are far worse things than having a puppy who is just acting like a puppy. I miss those days when Reese was a puppy, and sometimes she reverts back to certain puppy behaviors and I have to just deal with it. I wish you luck but also wish your puppy luck. I know I will take a lot from many dog lovers here for saying this, but here goes anyway. If you feel that the responsibility is getting to be too much for you, and you are concerned about your husbands reaction.. do everyone a favor, especially the puppy, and re home him or give him back to the breeder. It isn't fair to the puppy either. Hope you have better luck in the morning with him. It might pay to hire a sitter or have a family member watch your son for a day or two. Spend every moment or close to it to train him properly. It is just like toilet training a child. How I shiver when I think of the days of endless hours, sitting on the bathroom floor with each of my daughters waiting for them to grasp the concept. Believe it or not, each of them are fully trained unless they happen to laugh a little too hard. Good luck to you and your family. Randy and Reese

12-18-2005, 12:00 AM	#53
momofreese Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hewlett, New York Posts: 129	the destructive puppy and upset husband I just realized I made references to your female puppy as being a male. I apologize for my error. I suppose I should really get to bed. Have a good night and best of luck again.

12-18-2005, 04:37 AM	#54
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	Cheryl -- A marriage is about "give and take." But, some things have to take priority over others. Each of us (husbands and wives) usually do give up a lot of things for one another. But, giving up something that you love (like a pet) is a little harder than many other things might be. I'm not sure that it is really fair for anyone to ask another to give up something they love. Having a puppy is a very healthy, normal thing. It's not a bad thing. And, it isn't usually something that causes a lot of problems in a family. Again, I think you need to sit down with your husband and seriously tell him how much the puppy means to you ---and work out a plan together so that you might be able to keep the puppy and have peace in the family at the same time. Sounds like you love your husband a lot. That's wonderful. But, I want you to have your puppy too. A lot of the problems you are having with the little pup now are only because he is so young. He will outgrow most of the behavior that irritates your husband. But you and your husband have to work together to give the poor little guy a chance. Sounds like your husband isn't very fast at learning to love anything. All the more reason you need more time with your puppy. I wish you the best. If the time ever comes that you need to get rid of the little puppy - be sure and put him in your husband's arms and with tears in your eyes, you say, "Here - you go find him a good home." I'm not sure that he could do that. Again - good luck - I sure hope things work out. Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

12-18-2005, 07:51 AM	#56
cheryl000 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: none Posts: 1,495	hmmmm

12-18-2005, 08:40 AM	#60
momofreese Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hewlett, New York Posts: 129	An apology for being offensive in my post I think you took a lot of what I had said out of context, also. I did skim through all of your posts. I did not mean to imply that YOU are a bad mommy, either to your children or dogs. I happen to think I made it pretty clear that your puppy is not doing anything out of the oridinary. Like I said, and I am not going to copy and paste all of it, is that a puppy will be a puppy. As bright as they are, they do not have the mentality to rationalize. The puppy doesn't understand, at least not on a human level as to what she is doing. Everything that all of our puppy/dogs do is not to be destructive or bad.. they are playing. I will not say that dogs aren't ever spiteful, although I think most professionals believe that they are not. I just thought that your post was a little over the top.. meaning that your husband was making a huge issue out of what a puppy and sometimes adult dog, does. I am sorry if you took my text as being negative toward your abilities as a parent of a little boy or dogs. You are right, I used a horrible example regarding your husband and how he would react if your son does something wrong. I was way beyond being over the top. But based on your posts, how it takes your husband a long time to love, maybe forgive (another possible assumption) and how he reacts to puppy issues, I made the statement. And unfair it was. Especially when I am new to YT and have found all to be very pleasant (for the most part), I should not have reacted so strongly to your post which was sincere and seeking advice. But it really did upset me that someone, your husband, would think that what your puppy is doing is so unusual and terrible. I also had no right to go through a list of my own personal problems, which I deem worse than yours. I was again just trying to show you, that there are so many other more terrible things that we have to deal with. This is a minor situation that if handled properly, it will resolve itself. I again apologize over and over again, since everyone has their own set of problems/issues that are important to them. I guess being that I have a very strong personality ( I know you couldn't tell) and would never let my husband (nor would he) bully me when it came to my dog or for that matter anything. My husband is not the most outwardly affectionate person toward Reese, but I see the way he speaks about her to others, and how she gets under his skin. I am going on and on and on as usual so I will cut this off. I read your post, and felt badly that I came on as strong as I did.. especially since I am new and had been welcomed into the group. I really do believe that your puppy will grow out of this, probably have some setbacks as most do, which will make your husband fall as madly in love with both of your dogs, again. I think you missed my point in a few respects also. I was trying to say that we ALL make mistakes, as I have obviously done. But life goes on, hopefully. Once again my negatism was directed more toward your husband than at you. Which, without having ever met him, was completely wrong. I have made many mistakes in my post, and certainly could have gone about it in a nicer way. It just made me sad, and even a little angry, that a puppy owner would not understand that this is to be expected. If one does not go through it, I consider them to be very luck. Have a nice day, and I sincerely do think that many OTHERS have given you excellent advice. A evening or two with your husband alone would definitely help. I can certainly use the same, for different reasons, with mine. I wish all of you the best of luck and a very happy and healthy holiday. I am glad that you are able to fix your sons project.