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Old 05-30-2012, 04:57 AM   #1
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Default Please!! I'm desparate!

I've asked before, but if anybody has any suggestions, I need them!!!

Maggie just attacked Buster AGAIN! She does this at least once a day! She will grab him by his ear (I hope it's his ear) or on his face and won't let go. She's growling when she does this, she is intending to hurt him. I know she hurts him because he cries out. This usually happens when any attention is paid to Buster. It happened Saturday when I picked them up from the groomer, the groomer was getting Buster ready to leave and I was putting the harness on Maggie (pretty innocent). It happened just now when John was petting both of them, this is the first time he saw her do it and he was shocked. It happens if anyone, at anytime pays attention to Buster and she is within biting range. She does it if you are paying attention to her at the same time or if he comes up when she is getting attention. I don't know how to discipline her, right now she's in a room by herself. Maggie goes for a dental in a while and stuff like that makes me nervous anyway and now she's in a room by herself, ugh. But, I'm afraid that she is going to really hurt Buster. So far she hasn't drawn blood, I don't want it to get to that. Buster just gets more beat down and afraid each time she does it, he literally is afraid of her. If anyone has any suggestions, please, I need them. If you know of anyone in my area that can help, I need the suggestion! I don't know what to but rehoming her is not an option!
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Ok this might sound weird but you need to order KissE collars, I don't know why but when I put them on my 7 month old whos trying to gain her rank over my Miss Mini it calms her. I would put them on both of them for a few days and then retrain or get outside help from a professional.

I feed my two seperately, I make them both lay down and stay and give them treats at the same time. I don't leave food down for them to fight over and I never give one attention without the other. If Mini is on my lap, Mia is on my lap. If you need to handle one make sure the other is penned. Remove the behavior from happening while you make the change...kind of like if they chew shoes, put shoes away BUT train them to not chew shoes...

This is working for me, I am very careful not to slight one over the other and when I see things reving up the KissE collars go on and I spend alot of time retraining them together.

I hope you find a solution.

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p.s. how old are these pups? How long have you had each?
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Hi how're old are your little ones? I have a 2 1/2 and a 4 month old they are 1/2 sisters. I have had this happen a few time. Lizzie the oldest does it to Abbie when she starts bothering her. She has never hurt her and never would. I put my little one down for naps when she gets out of control. I would trime time outside one gets aggressive but that one in their carat. It only took Abbie a few times to get it
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Ziva(3 yrs) used to take snips at Abby (10 months)but it is becoming way less often. I do feed them separately on the advise of my vet. Ziva spent quite a lot of time in timeout (crate)at first. They have ganged up on the old big dog a few times now...I try hard not to show preference to either one. I think walking them together helps the most.
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I have two females that are vicious with each other....I must keep them separate....it is like they see each other, and one of them HAS to be telepathically hurling insults and talking trash at the other because all of a sudden, it is ON!!!!! If left to their own devices, it would be a fight to the death....they get along with everyone else, but they HATE each other!
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Hi how're old are your little ones? I have a 2 1/2 and a 4 month old they are 1/2 sisters. I have had this happen a few time. Lizzie the oldest does it to Abbie when she starts bothering her. She has never hurt her and never would. I put my little one down for naps when she gets out of control. I would trime time outside one gets aggressive but that one in their carat. It only took Abbie a few times to get it
Don't laugh, Buster is 4 years old, Maggie will be 4 years old in September. I've had them since they were babies, Maggie has always been the dominant dog and I've tried to control her, obviously I haven't been successful.
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I have two females that are vicious with each other....I must keep them separate....it is like they see each other, and one of them HAS to be telepathically hurling insults and talking trash at the other because all of a sudden, it is ON!!!!! If left to their own devices, it would be a fight to the death....they get along with everyone else, but they HATE each other!
Geez, I thought I had it bad. It seems that Maggie is very jealous. Buster will come and "ask" for attention but Maggie never does. Maybe we have been not been giving her enough attention? I don't know the answer but I need to find one.
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I have two females that are vicious with each other....I must keep them separate....it is like they see each other, and one of them HAS to be telepathically hurling insults and talking trash at the other because all of a sudden, it is ON!!!!! If left to their own devices, it would be a fight to the death....they get along with everyone else, but they HATE each other!
Oh my gosh, you made me laugh so hard! I know its not funny, but it is! I can just see Miss Mini with her high and mighty, I never lick my self attitude, nose in the air..biggest snob on four feet telepathically telling Mia "Bitch you ain't got nothing on me"!!!! omg, thanks for the laugh!
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Ok this might sound weird but you need to order KissE collars, I don't know why but when I put them on my 7 month old whos trying to gain her rank over my Miss Mini it calms her. I would put them on both of them for a few days and then retrain or get outside help from a professional.

I feed my two seperately, I make them both lay down and stay and give them treats at the same time. I don't leave food down for them to fight over and I never give one attention without the other. If Mini is on my lap, Mia is on my lap. If you need to handle one make sure the other is penned. Remove the behavior from happening while you make the change...kind of like if they chew shoes, put shoes away BUT train them to not chew shoes...

This is working for me, I am very careful not to slight one over the other and when I see things reving up the KissE collars go on and I spend alot of time retraining them together.

I hope you find a solution.

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p.s. how old are these pups? How long have you had each?
They don't fight over food. I leave kibbles down all day, but they don't fight over it. I feed them their dinner separately. Maggie will eat out of Buster's bowl first, if I catch her doing it, I pick his bowl up. What's a KissE collar? Do you walk them separately? Take them on outings separately? I've been telling DH that I should be doing this to have one on one time but he says the one I leave behind cries. I say they will get over it. The few times I have taken them separately, they love it.
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Geez, I thought I had it bad. It seems that Maggie is very jealous. Buster will come and "ask" for attention but Maggie never does. Maybe we have been not been giving her enough attention? I don't know the answer but I need to find one.
Please try some of the things I suggested. And I know when my two tussle they sound awful but its a case of sounding worse than it is. Divert their attention, stamp your foot, something....I think you will be fine...(Yorkiemom1's - not so much!!!)

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They do like to walk separately but then the one left behind gets sad and the one that got to go gets an attitude. I walk together like Cesar (dog whisperer) says, I am trying to make them a pack. If they snip now that Abby can hold her own, and I think it is over me, I turn my back and remove myself from the area.
Maybe your girl gets some kind of attention- good or bad - from taking shots at her brother?
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They do like to walk separately but then the one left behind gets sad and the one that got to go gets an attitude. I walk together like Cesar (dog whisperer) says, I am trying to make them a pack. If they snip now that Abby can hold her own, and I think it is over me, I turn my back and remove myself from the area.
Maybe your girl gets some kind of attention- good or bad - from taking shots at her brother?
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I have two females that are vicious with each other....I must keep them separate....it is like they see each other, and one of them HAS to be telepathically hurling insults and talking trash at the other because all of a sudden, it is ON!!!!! If left to their own devices, it would be a fight to the death....they get along with everyone else, but they HATE each other!


I thought that about Lizzie and Abbie at first. I tell everyone Lizzie has middle child syndrome she would act sad and pouty whe she saw Abbie and she would play with her and leave I started watching them more closely and panicked. I thought Lizzie would never get over being sad I kept watching and they started playing more togethe, but Liz kept on hitting her and Abbie sounded like she was dying. The more I watched I realized Lizzie was trying to correct her and teach her. I don't know how to explain it, but she honestly wasn't trying to hurt her.
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I have the exact same problem with my two. Sammy is 7mos and Sadie is 5mos. They fight like crazy. I can't tell who starts the fights, but they sometimes growl so loud, we can't hear the tv. When they do this, I try to seperate them but they go right back at it. I have just started using a squirt bottle of water and squirt them, and that seems to stop it for a while. Sammy likes to tease Sadie with his bone or toys, and when she goes after whatever he has, it makes him mad and then they start all over. It gets on my nerves really bad He even tries to pull her off the furniture by her hair or ears, but then she does the same to him. I am reading all the posts to see if I can pick up something helpful too.
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