Bi-Polar Pnut

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Well if that is the case I have a lot of work to do with him! I am pretty sure he wears the pants in the family. You know how Cesar Milan says " Discipline, exercise and affection"? Uhhh Pnut gets in this order Affection, exercise, affection and exercise! Haha Is that what created this Pnut monster?

You are not the only one. I know Georgie wears the pants here LOL. I know for us this won't change. We really just keep Georgie all to ourselves and don't try to socialize him anymore. He has had a couple of surgeries so we are ok with him not playing with other dogs. He does have Yorkie cousins and does well with them (they really just sleep and leave each other alone LOL). Him and his big Boxer sister have always been pals but she's as sweet as can be and so gentle. It's really the strange dogs that he gets that way around.

When he acts like that and people look at us crazy we say he has small dog syndrome and leave it at that

[navillusc]

Originally Posted by gracielove

Sometimes the signals a dog lets off are subtle enough that we don't notice, but they do. Those dogs may have had something going on that was making your dog feel threatened or defensive. Who knows? It may have been a good thing that you were holding him. I never let Gracie down around other dogs until I am certain that all the signals are peaceful. Dog body language has to be studied. Having been attacked by another dog when my other dog was alive I am now really cautious about those things.

It really doesn't matter much what was going on...something clearly was...and Peanut was uncomfortable with it and issued a warning. It doesn't have to have been something necessarily bad...just something to set Peanut on edge.

We took Mia to my son's house the day after we got her, and my son and granddaughter dog, Lady, 'surprised' us...and especially Mia, but I jumped, too, at first...at the window of the truck. DS met us at the truck to 'ease' the meeting for Lady...which he had not done when Brody met Lady and the two of them got along grandly and played until Brody collapsed on one on Lady's beds and Lady on the other. Mia, who was sweet as could be, good with other dogs, cats, and humans but not bonded with us yet, saw an unfamiliar human face at the window and lit into barking. For that whole visit, she was extremely uncomfortable and tense, and playing was very stressed and almost non-existent...body language looking more like aggression/fear for both Lady and Mia...neither is aggressive or particularly fearful normally. Brody played with Lady fine when I held Mia.

The next time Mia went to DS's house to play with Lady, the scene was completely different, and they were great friends. When Lady came to our house, the three played well also with no issues. But that first day, Mia's alarms all fired at the same time, and there was no easing her discomfort or silencing her.

[celstu1]

My fletcher freaks out when my nephew comes near him when he's laying with me. Real mean snapping, growling and barking. He also does not warn hes going to be mad, he just lashes out. Its so stressful. I wish I knew how to break the habit also. Ive tried putting him in another room when he does that. I tried to ignore him. He's better when I ignore him, but its so hard!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I struggle with this issue with my guys because I want them to be well-socialized, but I also want to keep them safe. As someone mentioned above, I think dog to dog communication and relationships are very complex and nuanced. I think a lot of it has to do with the combo of personalities of the 2 dogs meeting -- whether they are alphas or submissives or whatever. Plus, there is the factor of territory.

I've always read that it is better for 2 dogs to meet on equal terms, on the ground, and either both on leash or both off leash. Was Peanut on a leash? If he was, maybe being on a leash while the other dogs were off leash had a little something to do with his reaction.

When Max was a pup, I would take him outside in his wire crate to hang out with me while I worked in the yard. People would walk their dogs up to the wire crate and Max would turn into the Tazmanian devil. He felt threatened because he was stuck in a cage.

I agree with you- Yes I had Pnut's BB on with his leash attached. I have the retractable leash- however I was holding it but he was still hooked up.

Aw Poor Max! Lol I can almost picture him doing that It is hard to balance everything out- it is hard bc they cant speak- we have to go on their actions.. That is a hard thing to do!

I think Pnut is Bi Polar!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by GeorgiesMomma

You are not the only one. I know Georgie wears the pants here LOL. I know for us this won't change. We really just keep Georgie all to ourselves and don't try to socialize him anymore. He has had a couple of surgeries so we are ok with him not playing with other dogs. He does have Yorkie cousins and does well with them (they really just sleep and leave each other alone LOL). Him and his big Boxer sister have always been pals but she's as sweet as can be and so gentle. It's really the strange dogs that he gets that way around.

When he acts like that and people look at us crazy we say he has small dog syndrome and leave it at that

LoL I knew I wasn’t the only one, but I am glad someone else admitted to it!! LOL. Peanut is just Peanut. I am ok with that. He is ok when he is on the ground meeting dogs so I know when meeting new dogs he will have to be on the ground. He is really a good dog, he does have a little quirks about him, but what Yorkie doesn’t!!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by celstu1

My fletcher freaks out when my nephew comes near him when he's laying with me. Real mean snapping, growling and barking. He also does not warn hes going to be mad, he just lashes out. Its so stressful. I wish I knew how to break the habit also. Ive tried putting him in another room when he does that. I tried to ignore him. He's better when I ignore him, but its so hard!

Has your nephew ever done anything to upset Flecther? Peanut doesn’t really like kids, he deals with my niece and nephews but he will not play with them. If he doesn’t have to be around them he will- if he is forced to he will deal with it.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by navillusc

It really doesn't matter much what was going on...something clearly was...and Peanut was uncomfortable with it and issued a warning. It doesn't have to have been something necessarily bad...just something to set Peanut on edge.

We took Mia to my son's house the day after we got her, and my son and granddaughter dog, Lady, 'surprised' us...and especially Mia, but I jumped, too, at first...at the window of the truck. DS met us at the truck to 'ease' the meeting for Lady...which he had not done when Brody met Lady and the two of them got along grandly and played until Brody collapsed on one on Lady's beds and Lady on the other. Mia, who was sweet as could be, good with other dogs, cats, and humans but not bonded with us yet, saw an unfamiliar human face at the window and lit into barking. For that whole visit, she was extremely uncomfortable and tense, and playing was very stressed and almost non-existent...body language looking more like aggression/fear for both Lady and Mia...neither is aggressive or particularly fearful normally. Brody played with Lady fine when I held Mia.

The next time Mia went to DS's house to play with Lady, the scene was completely different, and they were great friends. When Lady came to our house, the three played well also with no issues. But that first day, Mia's alarms all fired at the same time, and there was no easing her discomfort or silencing her.

Well Mia didnt like something! Glad Mia was ok the next time!

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

LoL I knew I wasn’t the only one, but I am glad someone else admitted to it!! LOL. Peanut is just Peanut. I am ok with that. He is ok when he is on the ground meeting dogs so I know when meeting new dogs he will have to be on the ground. He is really a good dog, he does have a little quirks about him, but what Yorkie doesn’t!!

We need to start a club for people like us LOL. I do notice that Georgie is much better with other dogs when he is on the ground with him. We don't put him down with other bigs dogs for fear he will get hurt he is only allowed to be with his Sister I think Peanut and Georgie are just being protective of us.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by GeorgiesMomma

We need to start a club for people like us LOL. I do notice that Georgie is much better with other dogs when he is on the ground with him. We don't put him down with other bigs dogs for fear he will get hurt he is only allowed to be with his Sister I think Peanut and Georgie are just being protective of us.

My brother has a boxer, his name is Leo. I was dog sitting him and my brothers other dog Grace she is a min pincher- They all get along great! Grace just ignores Pnut, she is somewhat older about 8. Leo is younger than Peanut he is 2. When I go to their house Peanut is fine, he allows them to sniff (when Pnut is on the floor) If Pnut is in my lap and Leo comes up to see us and Leo gets too close, Pnut will growl and show his teeth.

I do believe it is more protective behavior that Pnut has.

When I was dog sitting, we took them all out in the back yard to play. Grace was doing her own thing and Dh threw the ball for Leo- Well Pnut saw that and ran to get it- so did Leo. Peanut got there first and grabbed the ball, Leo went to play tug of war with it and Pnut snapped at him! He snapped and growled really loud to Leo, Peanut was attacking Leo- Poor Leo, didn’t know what to do. At this time Peanut was going all crazy and still growling and biting at him- As DH is running over, I see Leo take his big ol head and lay his head on top of Pnuts’ he was obviously trying to over dominate but he did it in his own way where he didn’t attack Peanut. He kept taking his head and trying to push Peanut down. that is what it looked liked me us, Dh got over to them and took Pnut away from the situation.

It was crazy! I was sooooooo thankful Leo didn’t do anything! That could have been really bad!! I thought I was going to keep them separate the rest of the weekend but right after that we went inside and Peanut was fine with Leo. They were snuggled in the same bed 15 mins later!!

I did learn my lesson, if we dog sit them again, I wont have same play time!

Yes we need a club- what can we call it!??

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

My brother has a boxer, his name is Leo. I was dog sitting him and my brothers other dog Grace she is a min pincher- They all get along great! Grace just ignores Pnut, she is somewhat older about 8. Leo is younger than Peanut he is 2. When I go to their house Peanut is fine, he allows them to sniff (when Pnut is on the floor) If Pnut is in my lap and Leo comes up to see us and Leo gets too close, Pnut will growl and show his teeth.

I do believe it is more protective behavior that Pnut has.

When I was dog sitting, we took them all out in the back yard to play. Grace was doing her own thing and Dh threw the ball for Leo- Well Pnut saw that and ran to get it- so did Leo. Peanut got there first and grabbed the ball, Leo went to play tug of war with it and Pnut snapped at him! He snapped and growled really loud to Leo, Leo stopped and looked at him and then Pnut snipped at Leo! Poor Leo, didn’t know what to do. At this time Peanut was going all crazy and still growling and trying to snip- As DH is running over, I see Leo take his big ol head and lay his head on top of Pnuts’ he was obviously trying to over dominate but he did it in his own way where he didn’t attack Peanut. Dh got over to them and took Pnut away from the situation.

It was crazy! I was sooooooo thankful Leo didn’t do anything! That could have been really bad!! I thought I was going to keep them separate the rest of the weekend but right after that we went inside and Peanut was fine with Leo. They were snuggled in the same bed 15 mins later!!

I did learn my lesson, if we dog sit them again, I wont have same play time!

Yes we need a club- what can we call it!??

That's exactly what Georgie does even to Coco! Coco looks at him like what's wrong with you buddy LOL Coco has never shown any aggression towards Georgie she will just open her mouth and she sounds like Chewbacca and waves her heard around as they play. I posted it here many years ago. I just think Boxers are so sweet. I have never worried about anything other than Coco accidently hurting Georgie which she is 6 years older so when they play she is laying down LOL. I am so glad Leo realized his size and him and Peanut were buddies so soon after

Georgie is our first and only Yorkie so I didn't realize how different his personality would be from Coco's. She is so laid back and well he isn't LOL.

We need to think of a cute name for our club obviously to match the cuteness of our boys

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by GeorgiesMomma

That's exactly what Georgie does even to Coco! Coco looks at him like what's wrong with you buddy LOL Coco has never shown any aggression towards Georgie she will just open her mouth and she sounds like Chewbacca and waves her heard around as they play. I posted it here many years ago. I just think Boxers are so sweet. I have never worried about anything other than Coco accidently hurting Georgie which she is 6 years older so when they play she is laying down LOL. I am so glad Leo realized his size and him and Peanut were buddies so soon after

Georgie is our first and only Yorkie so I didn't realize how different his personality would be from Coco's. She is so laid back and well he isn't LOL.

We need to think of a cute name for our club obviously to match the cuteness of our boys

Your Coco is so cute- I just love Boxers, they are a great breed! My brother’s Leo is such a goof ball! I love watching him- Ya that is what Leo did, he looked at Peanut like, calm down dude!! LoL I was shocked when I saw Leo take his head and push Peanut down. That was the only thing he could have done really in dog ways, other than fighting back, but thankfully Leo is a sweet heart and I think he knows how small Peanut is!! I also think Peanut knows how BIG Leo is , and I m shocked that Peanut tried to get fresh with him!

That is so funny you say that- Leo and Coco sound a lot alike and Pnut/ Georgie sound A LOT alike haha!! Yorkies are little nuts aren’t they? Haha The only fear I have with Leo is sometimes when he gets crazy and runs around, I fear Pnut would get in the way other than that they have never had a problem, and when Peanut has a problem with Leo- he pretty much ignores it and looks at him like he is crazy!

I am going to think about a name- are boys sounds like they are equally crazy~

[GeorgiesMomma]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Your Coco is so cute- I just love Boxers, they are a great breed! My brother’s Leo is such a goof ball! I love watching him- Ya that is what Leo did, he looked at Peanut like, calm down dude!! LoL I was shocked when I saw Leo take his head and push Peanut down. That was the only thing he could have done really in dog ways, other than fighting back, but thankfully Leo is a sweet heart and I think he knows how small Peanut is!! I also think Peanut knows how BIG Leo is , and I m shocked that Peanut tried to get fresh with him!

That is so funny you say that- Leo and Coco sound a lot alike and Pnut/ Georgie sound A LOT alike haha!! Yorkies are little nuts aren’t they? Haha The only fear I have with Leo is sometimes when he gets crazy and runs around, I fear Pnut would get in the way other than that they have never had a problem, and when Peanut has a problem with Leo- he pretty much ignores it and looks at him like he is crazy!

I am going to think about a name- are boys sounds like they are equally crazy~

Thank you she is really so sweet. She is getting old but still gets around and is in good health. I can't believe she will be 13 in October! Georgie is definitely a little crazy ok a lot LOL. Before I found YT I thought I was the only one with this 4lb furball that ran my life HA! We love every minute of it though and we created this monster. I can understand your worry Boxers are wild and I think they male Boxers are even more so.

Let me know what name you come up

[dinkyweil]

Dinky thinks he is our protector too. He will bark and growl at large dogs; he is okay with dogs that are his size or smaller. Well, he weighs 4 pounds, so that does not happen often.
It really is a problem. I feel that Dinky misses out on playmates.
And he also barks at people when he does not know them or does not know them well.
I've said the when Dinky acts like this it is not barking, it is cursing. I mean if I had a doggie translator, Dinky would be saying, " You %%!@@ creature. Get the &%$#((( away from my family! Now, I will attack you **$$#@ now!"
I have finally convinced my DH who spoils Dinky that our little guy would be happier if he we taught him to behave better.
It really distresses me.

[celstu1]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Has your nephew ever done anything to upset Flecther? Peanut doesn’t really like kids, he deals with my niece and nephews but he will not play with them. If he doesn’t have to be around them he will- if he is forced to he will deal with it.

No... my nephew has never done anything to Fletcher. And if I am not around, he is fine with my nephew. Its only when he's sitting ON me and my nephew comes near us that he freaks. Neither of my dogs really like kids in general, but they are fine with them and even act good when a kid pets them or tries to pick them up.... but if they are actually physically ON me, then its best to not have any kid near them at all. Dexter does not do anything at all.... but Fletch snaps, lunges forward and barks maniacally for a few seconds at the child. I hate that he does that.

[celstu1]

My Dexter tends to be more stand off-ish or afriad of other dogs in general. Big, small, male, female, old, young, it does not matter. Our friends have a big Rottie who is very friendly and playful and about 160lbs. Other dogs seem to sense that Dexter wants NOTHING to do with them, therefore they are always all over him, trying to play or sniff him. One day he turned around and laid into that Rottie something fierce. He was 4.5lbs at the time. It was like he was telling the Rottie to back the #$%^ off. LOL We were all shocked and made sure to keep them apart from that point forward.