Is breeding a 11lb male with a 4lb female a No-No??

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Lil Sis

omg... that is so sad that poor baby!!!

to the op... I understand if you are not familiar with breeding and such the "thought" is there. I know you did the right thing to ask and gained a lot of great info!!

Ya it was really sad when she told me, the sad thing is her dog was older.. I wanna say 9/10 ish. She told me she saw the male hooked on her- I told her take her to the vet she is too old and too small!! She didn’t and that’s what happened. It is so important to get your dog spayed or neutered- I don’t understand why people think it is OK to breed their dogs, just for the purpose of “having puppies”. It is so sad! We have millions of unwanted animals in this world- We need to try to work on stopping the numbers from increasing

Some of the comments on here have been so ignorant~ It doesn't seem like the OP will listen, at least I hope they don't.

[bondai]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

There are to many mixed breed dogs in shelters that people don't want because they are not pure breed or just because they are in a shelter. A reputable breeder will not breed mixes because they breed to better the breed not make more mutts.

Lets face it, it's the mixed breed issue you really object to.

[lovespandp]

Some of the comments on here have been so ignorant~ It doesn't seem like the OP will listen, at least I hope they don't.

Typo, I mean : It does seem like the OP will listen, at least I hope they do.

[bondai]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Some of the comments on here have been so ignorant~ It doesn't seem like the OP will listen, at least I hope they don't.

Typo, I mean : It does seem like the OP will listen, at least I hope they do.

What is it about the exchange of ideas that bothers you?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by bondai

Lets face it, it's the mixed breed issue you really object to.

All dogs are mixed with something; the problem is you can't predict how a mixed breed will turn out as an adult. You mix a poodle with a Yorkie and you get different results every time. The pups may be adorable, but unfortunately the adult dog isn't what the buyer expected, and the next thing you know, it's off to the pound. Purebreds are easier to place, it's unfortunate, but true. Furthermore, the Humane Society says that the closer a dog meets standard the easier it is to place. You’ll find the people here love dogs, we’re not purebred snobs. Most of my dogs were mixes, and they were all one of a kind and I loved them dearly. No one here is against mixes, it’s the breeders who for breed them, and I think many purebred breeders, who breed a dog just because it's a "purebred" are just as bad.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by bondai

Don't assume you have the right to tell people what they can and can't do with their dogs. There is nothing wrong with raising a litter of puppies if it it done in a smart way.

Your last sentence leads me to ask..........what is the smart way? Would you please clarify this statement for me.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by bondai

Lets face it, it's the mixed breed issue you really object to.

Nope not at all I grew up with mixed breed dogs we got from the Amish, and the rest where rescues one mixed breed dog we rescued was my first dog ever best dog was my best friend, then we rescued two more dogs. Callie has been my only full breed dog and that was because I moved in with my grandparents and my grandmother has copd so I had to get a dog that wouldn't shed and didn't have fur but hair and one that wouldn't make my allergies go crazy. My problem is everyone is wanting to breed when there are millions of dogs who don't have homes. Then they are breeding mixes which they can find in shelters and paying over $1,000 bucks for them. Don't judge me when you don't know me. Just because I have a full blood Yorkshire Terrier doesn't mean I am some snob!

[bondai]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Your last sentence leads me to ask..........what is the smart way? Would you please clarify this statement for me.

What I meant was making sure the dogs are healthy and that you are financially prepared for the burden of raising pups. I mean you are going to have a lot of extra vet bills for the care of the mother. I agree that there are many things to be considered and that the process should not be entered into lightly. I suppose that one of the main concerns is that none of the puppies wind up contributing to the shelter problem.

I am not saying that having puppies is for everybody, I am just saying that it can be done and done right.

[bondai]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Nope not at all I grew up with mixed breed dogs we got from the Amish, and the rest where rescues one mixed breed dog we rescued was my first dog ever best dog was my best friend, then we rescued two more dogs. Callie has been my only full breed dog and that was because I moved in with my grandparents and my grandmother has copd so I had to get a dog that wouldn't shed and didn't have fur but hair and one that wouldn't make my allergies go crazy. My problem is everyone is wanting to breed when there are millions of dogs who don't have homes. Then they are breeding mixes which they can find in shelters and paying over $1,000 bucks for them. Don't judge me when you don't know me. Just because I have a full blood Yorkshire Terrier doesn't mean I am some snob!

I stand corrected and I did not mean to imply you were a snob, I don't even know you. It's just when you used the term "Mutt" it got me thinking....no harm meant.

[bondai]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

All dogs are mixed with something; the problem is you can't predict how a mixed breed will turn out as an adult. You mix a poodle with a Yorkie and you get different results every time. The pups may be adorable, but unfortunately the adult dog isn't what the buyer expected, and the next thing you know, it's off to the pound. Purebreds are easier to place, it's unfortunate, but true. Furthermore, the Humane Society says that the closer a dog meets standard the easier it is to place. You’ll find the people here love dogs, we’re not purebred snobs. Most of my dogs were mixes, and they were all one of a kind and I loved them dearly. No one here is against mixes, it’s the breeders who for breed them, and I think many purebred breeders, who breed a dog just because it's a "purebred" are just as bad.

Point taken. I have to wonder though with all the pain and suffering involved why aren't there more laws in place to rein in some of these "puppy mills" Is it that everyone involved is making too much money?

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by bondai

I stand corrected and I did not mean to imply you were a snob, I don't even know you. It's just when you used the term "Mutt" it got me thinking....no harm meant.

We have always joked calling our dogs mutts its not an offensive term to me really I guess if people looked at Callie being 16 pounds and having floppy ears and called her a mutt I might be a little upset but who knows.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by bondai

Point taken. I have to wonder though with all the pain and suffering involved why aren't there more laws in place to rein in some of these "puppy mills" Is it that everyone involved is making too much money?

There has been a lot done in the past few years. So many people didn't even know about puppy mills, but it's a complex problem and it's the way some farmers earn a living. Missouri passed a lot of laws causing many of their mills to close down, but there was a back lash and so many dogs ended up in rescues and now people are angry about all the laws. Right now a huge part of the problem is that breeders need no license to sell over the internet, so there’s no law in place protecting these dogs. Right now with so many people worried about their jobs and finances there seems to be a lot of apathy involving the protection of dogs.

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Your last sentence leads me to ask..........what is the smart way? Would you please clarify this statement for me.

This is the smart way.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by bondai

What I meant was making sure the dogs are healthy and that you are financially prepared for the burden of raising pups. I mean you are going to have a lot of extra vet bills for the care of the mother. I agree that there are many things to be considered and that the process should not be entered into lightly. I suppose that one of the main concerns is that none of the puppies wind up contributing to the shelter problem.

I am not saying that having puppies is for everybody, I am just saying that it can be done and done right.

But that is the exact problem with breeding. You just never know the outcome. People will just allow breeding to occur because they do not spay and neuter their pets then do not take responsibly for the puppies that are produced. They think putting two dogs together is all that it takes to make puppies but it's far more than just doing that to produce good puppies. Of course with proper education it it possible but those that are seem to be far and few between. Then the only ones that suffer are the animals or the buyers who end up with dogs that are not what they expected or want as pets. Breeding is just not taken seriously enough and it can lead to much heartache.

[gracielove]

What possible rational argument is there for producing more dogs when there are thousands being destroyed daily in shelters? If you want a dog or puppy go rescue one don't produce more! Save some lives! It is total ignorance to produce more of something that there is already a surplus of! Dogs are suffering and dying because of this type of foolishness.