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Bitsy · 12-08-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Let me share a story with you all. My foster, also named Chloe's former owners tried to breed her once. She had to have an emergency c-section due to complications during whelp. She only had one puppy and it died. The vet then performed an immediate spay on her. She almost died as well. Now she has a huge scar on her belly from this. Chloe was lucky, she didn't die. Why someone would want to risk their baby like this is beyond me.

I don't understand why anyone would go through all this, and then just give away the puppies. Why don't you just buy them one from a reputable breeder who actually knows what they are doing? Better yet, rescue one from the shelter, or adopt a rescue.

YOU ARE ADDING TO THE PET OVERPOPULATION. YOU ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE AND MORE PERFECTLY HEALTHY DOGS BEING PUT
DOWN.

And this is what breaks my heart.
I didnt know Chloe's story. That is sooooo sad. I'm so glad she's been rescued.

dawn27 · 12-08-2011, 02:34 PM

Of course she is very active, she's in heat and instinct is to breed. She will continue to breed as long as you allow it. It is possible for dogs to tie at any time, unusual for her to accept the male if she wasn't ready. That being said mark your calendar for the first time they tied and be ready.

It wont be easy, prepare yourself. Have all of your supplies ready and a vet. on call.

slthoeny · 12-08-2011, 03:32 PM

I understand everyone's frustration, anger, dismay, and all the other emotions shown. I do not disagree with the statements I have read, but it could be done more constructively in my opinion. Several times I have noticed someone coming to the site for advice. They appear to be ingnorant when it comes to breeding, and the dangers that come with it. They must be willing to listen, that is why they came here. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. People can learn, and just because they don't already know it does not mean they will never learn. I think so many times the replies are not done in a way to mae the OP stick around to really learn. I think a lot of times the OP sees the replies and never comes back because there is a negative and sometimes personal undertone to the replies. They may also never even see the real information in the posts, and therefore remain ignorant. There is a ton of very helpful information on this site. I have found it to be very beneficial. I also see how very caring and helpful the members of yt are. I am not talking about any one post it is just an overall vibe I get at times. I guess I am done rambling.

Teresa Ford · 12-08-2011, 05:42 PM

Sometimes I ....
" Sometimes I forget, my opinions are not universally accepted as the only right answer. I sometimes jump to wrong conclusions or misunderstand what the person is trying to say. Sometimes I am unrealistic and expect people to have a great level of understanding about the subject when they don't. Sometimes rather than seeing their questions as an innocent ignorance searching for answers, I may see willful stupidy, or belligerent nose thumbing at my convictions. Sometimes I should humbly listen, and gently teach. All the time, I should skip the negative retorts, rudely phrased questions, personal taunts, frustrated venting, and undiplomatic blurts. I may only have one chance to make a difference. I hope I don't miss the moment, because I got angry." T Radcliff

yorkieusa · 12-08-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilovemy2Yorkies

I have a few questions re: breeding. My female Yorkie, Chloe was mated on Dec 3rd & again on the 5th. Both days they tied several times. What I'm unsure of us whether or not she was ovulating because she was still spotting blood & actually still is here & there. Is it true that she would have rejected the male if she weren't ready? How will I know when she is pregnant? She's been very active these past few days & actually has been humping our female Chiuaha as well as our small 6 month old Yorkie. Is it normal for her to still have a sex drive even after mating? Should I mate her one more time in the next few days? And no, I'm not a breeder, but I am a Yorkie lover as well as many of my family members who all want a puppy if Chloe does turn out to be pregnant. Thank you all in advance for your wonderful advice & suggestions.

What if Chloe dies and everyone else has a puppy, but you are left empty handed and with a sad and regretful heart?

lovespandp · 12-08-2011, 08:20 PM

Just because you are a Yorkie Lover- does not make you a breeder or anything close to it.

Donnainohio63 · 12-08-2011, 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=slthoeny;3753220]I understand everyone's frustration, anger, dismay, and all the other emotions shown. I do not disagree with the statements I have read, but it could be done more constructively in my opinion. Several times I have noticed someone coming to the site for advice. They appear to be ingnorant when it comes to breeding, and the dangers that come with it. They must be willing to listen, that is why they came here. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. People can learn, and just because they don't already know it does not mean they will never learn. I think so many times the replies are not done in a way to mae the OP stick around to really learn. I think a lot of times the OP sees the replies and never comes back because there is a negative and sometimes personal undertone to the replies. They may also never even see the real information in the posts, and therefore remain ignorant. There is a ton of very helpful information on this site. I have found it to be very beneficial. I also see how very caring and helpful the members of yt are. I am not talking about any one post it is just an overall vibe I get at times. I guess I am done rambling.[/QUOTE

If you are ignorant when it comes to Breeding, then why would you do it purposley?????? If you want to Breed, get a mentor, learn all there is to learn and then some. I do not think anyone here is trying to be mean, just fed up with seeing the same old post, I bred my dog, what do I do now? I hope the op will take the advice of the breeders here who know what they are doing and get her baby spayed and enjoy her as a pet.

Deuce · 12-08-2011, 09:52 PM

I recommend going to your vet and having her checked out, then take her to a AKC breeder in your area and asking him/her if your dog is the right size to handle a litter. If not either a, schedule an emergency spay with your vet, or b, make sure you have at least $3k for an c-section and that you have a reputable breeder on speed dial who is willing to help you whelp, and possibly raise a litter of puppies without mothers help. Sometimes when bitches are too young to be bred, but are bred anyways they can make it through the pregnancy and birthing just fine, but then reject the pups all-together and the breeder is put in the position of feeding, cleaning, and ensuring the pups are clearing their bowels regularly. Good luck.

caw · 12-09-2011, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

Sometimes I ....
" Sometimes I forget, my opinions are not universally accepted as the only right answer. I sometimes jump to wrong conclusions or misunderstand what the person is trying to say. Sometimes I am unrealistic and expect people to have a great level of understanding about the subject when they don't. Sometimes rather than seeing their questions as an innocent ignorance searching for answers, I may see willful stupidy, or belligerent nose thumbing at my convictions. Sometimes I should humbly listen, and gently teach. All the time, I should skip the negative retorts, rudely phrased questions, personal taunts, frustrated venting, and undiplomatic blurts. I may only have one chance to make a difference. I hope I don't miss the moment, because I got angry." T Radcliff

Im a school teacher and this an excellent bit of wisdom. If you want ANY chance to pursuade another....do it in a way that will open a person to change...you dont want a student closing up

maci_mace · 12-09-2011, 09:00 AM

I in all honesty hope your dog does not take the male, or that the breeding was done too early/too late for it to take.
Saddens me when someone is willing to breed their own pet just because their family/friends want a puppy. There are lots of yorkies, yorkie mixes, and puppies out there in shelters etc.

Altogether, you've been given great advice here even if some of it is harsh, you have to realize you may be a Yorkie lover, but some of us are Yorkie passionate and have been in the breeding [legit registered breeding] for a long time and know what they're talking about. I personally have never bred, not will I ever so I have no profound wisdom besides telling you to listen to these people ^^ Goodluck

Lou · 12-09-2011, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

Sometimes I ....
" Sometimes I forget, my opinions are not universally accepted as the only right answer. I sometimes jump to wrong conclusions or misunderstand what the person is trying to say. Sometimes I am unrealistic and expect people to have a great level of understanding about the subject when they don't. Sometimes rather than seeing their questions as an innocent ignorance searching for answers, I may see willful stupidy, or belligerent nose thumbing at my convictions. Sometimes I should humbly listen, and gently teach. All the time, I should skip the negative retorts, rudely phrased questions, personal taunts, frustrated venting, and undiplomatic blurts. I may only have one chance to make a difference. I hope I don't miss the moment, because I got angry." T Radcliff

OK, who are you and what have you done with Teresa?

So we have another uneducated newbie asking for advice when it is already too late. sigh. I hope she does take her little one to the vet and do what must be done. Poor little dog.

katienme2002 · 12-09-2011, 05:23 PM

I for one am beyond frustrated with people breeding there dogs just because they want a cute little puppy...And I for one have rescued dogs that are thrown away by bad breeders, and I REFUSE to apologize for how I feel. It is not my intent to mean malicious and hurtful, but these poor dogs are paying the price for someone elses ignorance.

Susan78 · 12-09-2011, 05:57 PM

I am not a breeder and never will be. Please take the good advice from the Yt members here about breeding your yorkie.Spaying would be a good issue for you to think about. Susan

Donnainohio63 · 12-09-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katienme2002

I for one am beyond frustrated with people breeding there dogs just because they want a cute little puppy...And I for one have rescued dogs that are thrown away by bad breeders, and I REFUSE to apologize for how I feel. It is not my intent to mean malicious and hurtful, but these poor dogs are paying the price for someone elses ignorance.

Lovetodream88 · 12-10-2011, 07:13 AM

I really hope the op has come back and read every ones advise and taken her girl to get spayed although sense she hasn't posted again I am doubtful that she has

12-08-2011, 02:34 PM	#17
dawn27 2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Bean Town Ohio Posts: 9,456 Blog Entries: 1	Of course she is very active, she's in heat and instinct is to breed. She will continue to breed as long as you allow it. It is possible for dogs to tie at any time, unusual for her to accept the male if she wasn't ready. That being said mark your calendar for the first time they tied and be ready. It wont be easy, prepare yourself. Have all of your supplies ready and a vet. on call. __________________ Mommy to: Quincy, & Ruby Bella / Miah & Brandi Gone but Never Forgotten Visit: Bella Dawns for all of your Custom Pet Wear needs.

12-08-2011, 05:42 PM	#19
Teresa Ford Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida Posts: 3,863	Are you crazy ? pssst... can you ask nicely ? Sometimes I .... " Sometimes I forget, my opinions are not universally accepted as the only right answer. I sometimes jump to wrong conclusions or misunderstand what the person is trying to say. Sometimes I am unrealistic and expect people to have a great level of understanding about the subject when they don't. Sometimes rather than seeing their questions as an innocent ignorance searching for answers, I may see willful stupidy, or belligerent nose thumbing at my convictions. Sometimes I should humbly listen, and gently teach. All the time, I should skip the negative retorts, rudely phrased questions, personal taunts, frustrated venting, and undiplomatic blurts. I may only have one chance to make a difference. I hope I don't miss the moment, because I got angry." T Radcliff __________________ Teresa & Rubin, Gracie, Abba, Ginny Joy and Julia Rose Act like a dog, be kind, forgiving, and loyal.

12-08-2011, 08:20 PM	#21
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	Just because you are a Yorkie Lover- does not make you a breeder or anything close to it. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

12-08-2011, 09:41 PM	#22
Donnainohio63 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lorain Ohio Posts: 1,882	[QUOTE=slthoeny;3753220]I understand everyone's frustration, anger, dismay, and all the other emotions shown. I do not disagree with the statements I have read, but it could be done more constructively in my opinion. Several times I have noticed someone coming to the site for advice. They appear to be ingnorant when it comes to breeding, and the dangers that come with it. They must be willing to listen, that is why they came here. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. People can learn, and just because they don't already know it does not mean they will never learn. I think so many times the replies are not done in a way to mae the OP stick around to really learn. I think a lot of times the OP sees the replies and never comes back because there is a negative and sometimes personal undertone to the replies. They may also never even see the real information in the posts, and therefore remain ignorant. There is a ton of very helpful information on this site. I have found it to be very beneficial. I also see how very caring and helpful the members of yt are. I am not talking about any one post it is just an overall vibe I get at times. I guess I am done rambling.[/QUOTE If you are ignorant when it comes to Breeding, then why would you do it purposley?????? If you want to Breed, get a mentor, learn all there is to learn and then some. I do not think anyone here is trying to be mean, just fed up with seeing the same old post, I bred my dog, what do I do now? I hope the op will take the advice of the breeders here who know what they are doing and get her baby spayed and enjoy her as a pet. __________________ http://thelittleyorkierescue.weebly.com/

12-09-2011, 09:00 AM	#25
maci_mace YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 797	I in all honesty hope your dog does not take the male, or that the breeding was done too early/too late for it to take. Saddens me when someone is willing to breed their own pet just because their family/friends want a puppy. There are lots of yorkies, yorkie mixes, and puppies out there in shelters etc. Altogether, you've been given great advice here even if some of it is harsh, you have to realize you may be a Yorkie lover, but some of us are Yorkie passionate and have been in the breeding [legit registered breeding] for a long time and know what they're talking about. I personally have never bred, not will I ever so I have no profound wisdom besides telling you to listen to these people ^^ Goodluck __________________ Maci May, Leonidas, Tyler&Ashley our small happy family!

12-08-2011, 03:32 PM	#18
slthoeny Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: arkadelphia, ar usa Posts: 73 Blog Entries: 2	I understand everyone's frustration, anger, dismay, and all the other emotions shown. I do not disagree with the statements I have read, but it could be done more constructively in my opinion. Several times I have noticed someone coming to the site for advice. They appear to be ingnorant when it comes to breeding, and the dangers that come with it. They must be willing to listen, that is why they came here. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. People can learn, and just because they don't already know it does not mean they will never learn. I think so many times the replies are not done in a way to mae the OP stick around to really learn. I think a lot of times the OP sees the replies and never comes back because there is a negative and sometimes personal undertone to the replies. They may also never even see the real information in the posts, and therefore remain ignorant. There is a ton of very helpful information on this site. I have found it to be very beneficial. I also see how very caring and helpful the members of yt are. I am not talking about any one post it is just an overall vibe I get at times. I guess I am done rambling.

12-08-2011, 09:52 PM	#23
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	I recommend going to your vet and having her checked out, then take her to a AKC breeder in your area and asking him/her if your dog is the right size to handle a litter. If not either a, schedule an emergency spay with your vet, or b, make sure you have at least $3k for an c-section and that you have a reputable breeder on speed dial who is willing to help you whelp, and possibly raise a litter of puppies without mothers help. Sometimes when bitches are too young to be bred, but are bred anyways they can make it through the pregnancy and birthing just fine, but then reject the pups all-together and the breeder is put in the position of feeding, cleaning, and ensuring the pups are clearing their bowels regularly. Good luck.

12-09-2011, 05:23 PM	#27
katienme2002 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Posts: 1,290	I for one am beyond frustrated with people breeding there dogs just because they want a cute little puppy...And I for one have rescued dogs that are thrown away by bad breeders, and I REFUSE to apologize for how I feel. It is not my intent to mean malicious and hurtful, but these poor dogs are paying the price for someone elses ignorance. __________________

12-09-2011, 05:57 PM	#28
Susan78 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hibbing Minnesota Posts: 1,106	I am not a breeder and never will be. Please take the good advice from the Yt members here about breeding your yorkie.Spaying would be a good issue for you to think about. Susan

12-10-2011, 07:13 AM	#30
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,247	I really hope the op has come back and read every ones advise and taken her girl to get spayed although sense she hasn't posted again I am doubtful that she has __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!